Another Reason Richard Sherman is That ? : 'I'm Flattered, But I need the Ball'

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  • lamontbdc
    lamontbdc Members Posts: 18,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    allday1992 wrote: »
    Y'all giving him way too much credit for that game. The Packers game plan was to move Nelson to the left side to either

    A.) Force Sherman out his comfort zone and move

    Or

    B.) Get their number #1 WR on the Seahawks #2 DB

    Now if y'all wanna give him props for yoking Jared Boykin cool but to act like any NFL QB would be scared of one side of the field is stupid. Imo Maxwell deserves more credit for what he did to Jordy Nelson

    A is irrelevant b/c we all know Sherman doesn't move
    B Nothing wrong with that but if your number 1 wr can't match up vs the number 1 cb and get one pass thrown his way the ENTIRE game. Than yes that is the qb being scared to throw to that side of the field. Nobody is saying go at Sherman all game. But they didn't attempt one pass that way. Thus limiting their own offense, and creating more match up issues for themselves. You telling your offensive weapons that our number 1 can't beat their number one. So why would Boykin the number 3 even have any confidence at all out there. That's on the coaching staff more than anything. Maxwell did good nobody is taking anything away from him.

  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    allday1992 wrote: »
    Y'all giving him way too much credit for that game. The Packers game plan was to move Nelson to the left side to either

    A.) Force Sherman out his comfort zone and move

    Or

    B.) Get their number #1 WR on the Seahawks #2 DB

    Now if y'all wanna give him props for yoking Jared Boykin cool but to act like any NFL QB would be scared of one side of the field is stupid. Imo Maxwell deserves more credit for what he did to Jordy Nelson

    By keeping their number WR on one side of the field is stupid.

    The knew where his was gonna be, which limit the plays you can run with your best WR.

    All cuz of Sherman.

    Maxwell can play up close and maybe bit on outs more cuz he knows Thomas gon roll a little more to his side even though he's the center fielder.

    With the LB playing underneath cuz Nelson is in the same spot.

    Sherman affected the entire gameplan the packers can run.
  • S2J
    S2J Members Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    allday1992 wrote: »
    Y'all giving him way too much credit for that game. The Packers game plan was to move Nelson to the left side to either

    A.) Force Sherman out his comfort zone and move

    Or

    B.) Get their number #1 WR on the Seahawks #2 DB

    Now if y'all wanna give him props for yoking Jared Boykin cool but to act like any NFL QB would be scared of one side of the field is stupid. Imo Maxwell deserves more credit for what he did to Jordy Nelson

    No, yall are goin too far out of your way to discredit him.

    1) Right handed QBs naturally throw right. Especially Rodgers. Their's proof of this. So right off bat RODGERS is out of his comfort zone

    2) GB, much like the Saints, is a 'whoever's open' pass offense. The whole field. So Nelson being their #1 is irrelevant. Nelson, Cobb, Boykin...Jones, Driver, Finley, etc.: Rodgers have never had a traditional #1 option he specifically targets. Always been by committee. Bottom line Sherman put their freewheeling, 'everybody catches passes' offense into a box.

    This will make more sense when the season goes on and Jarett Boykin puts up numbers. (#forsight) Thats whats lost in all this. James Jones scored 12 or so TDs last year and GB let him go bc Boykin is pretty nice. Yet people are spakin on him---a starting WR in the NFL---like he's handicapped. In the middle of the game! On some 'bless his heart, he wont be catching any passes today'. Sherman is that good.
  • Livefromclayco
    Livefromclayco Members Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lamontbdc wrote: »
    allday1992 wrote: »
    Y'all giving him way too much credit for that game. The Packers game plan was to move Nelson to the left side to either

    A.) Force Sherman out his comfort zone and move

    Or

    B.) Get their number #1 WR on the Seahawks #2 DB

    Now if y'all wanna give him props for yoking Jared Boykin cool but to act like any NFL QB would be scared of one side of the field is stupid. Imo Maxwell deserves more credit for what he did to Jordy Nelson

    A is irrelevant b/c we all know Sherman doesn't move
    B Nothing wrong with that but if your number 1 wr can't match up vs the number 1 cb and get one pass thrown his way the ENTIRE game. Than yes that is the qb being scared to throw to that side of the field. Nobody is saying go at Sherman all game. But they didn't attempt one pass that way. Thus limiting their own offense, and creating more match up issues for themselves. You telling your offensive weapons that our number 1 can't beat their number one. So why would Boykin the number 3 even have any confidence at all out there. That's on the coaching staff more than anything. Maxwell did good nobody is taking anything away from him.

    I agree that the Packers went too far to the extreme with Nelson not going to the other side but any OC who's giving the chance to dictate the matchup is going to take it.

    If the Packers said ? it and constantly put Nelson on the right side the Seahawks would take that matchup and scheme around everybody else but to bring up @Shizlansky's part if you put Nelson on Maxwell then Thomas has to roll over to that matchup which creates more opportunities for the other WRs. Now to the defense's credit they won those matchup's and still controlled the game.

    Like I said he deserves props for yoking up Boykin cause doing it to any NFL WR is a great day but to act like Aaron Rodgers refused to even look that way (which is what "being scared" implies) is ridiculous.
  • The Iconoclast
    The Iconoclast Members Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI for you ? that hate the fact that he only plays one side of the field, here's some advanced tracking for last week that compares him to other elite corners:

    Richard Sherman – 61 of 61 snaps on the left side

    Patrick Peterson – 58 of 62 snaps on the left side

    Darrelle Revis – 64 of 65 snaps on the left side


    Here's the link that goes into detail (it also explains how Joe Haden had the weakest performance last week out of the elite corners)-
    https://profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/10/analysis-notebook-week-1-2/
  • S2J
    S2J Members Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI for you ? that hate the fact that he only plays one side of the field, here's some advanced tracking for last week that compares him to other elite corners:

    Richard Sherman – 61 of 61 snaps on the left side

    Patrick Peterson – 58 of 62 snaps on the left side

    Darrelle Revis – 64 of 65 snaps on the left side


    Here's the link that goes into detail (it also explains how Joe Haden had the weakest performance last week out of the elite corners)-
    https://profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/10/analysis-notebook-week-1-2/

    *patiently waits for explanation around this*
  • Say What
    Say What Members Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭
    Haden had the worst performance but he is the only one shadowing. PP did the same thing last yr and he is the #1 imo.
  • Smokey Tha Bandit
    Smokey Tha Bandit Members Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sherman the lil Wayne of the NFL

    LOL no...
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Say What wrote: »
    Haden had the worst performance but he is the only one shadowing. PP did the same thing last yr and he is the #1 imo.

    He gave up 7 TDs though. That's a lot.
  • HustleThaDon
    HustleThaDon Members Posts: 28,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI for you ? that hate the fact that he only plays one side of the field, here's some advanced tracking for last week that compares him to other elite corners:

    Richard Sherman – 61 of 61 snaps on the left side

    Patrick Peterson – 58 of 62 snaps on the left side

    Darrelle Revis – 64 of 65 snaps on the left side


    Here's the link that goes into detail (it also explains how Joe Haden had the weakest performance last week out of the elite corners)-
    https://profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/10/analysis-notebook-week-1-2/

    /thread
  • Say What
    Say What Members Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Say What wrote: »
    Haden had the worst performance but he is the only one shadowing. PP did the same thing last yr and he is the #1 imo.

    He gave up 7 TDs though. That's a lot.

    But he was on the top receiver without a dominate safety behind him and I like Whittner
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Say What wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Say What wrote: »
    Haden had the worst performance but he is the only one shadowing. PP did the same thing last yr and he is the #1 imo.

    He gave up 7 TDs though. That's a lot.

    But he was on the top receiver without a dominate safety behind him and I like Whittner

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  • Say What
    Say What Members Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2014
    SF let him go without hesitation. He looked great in Buffalo but not so much in SF. Not saying he was bad just not top tier
  • Already Home_17
    Already Home_17 Members Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI for you ? that hate the fact that he only plays one side of the field, here's some advanced tracking for last week that compares him to other elite corners:

    Richard Sherman – 61 of 61 snaps on the left side

    Patrick Peterson – 58 of 62 snaps on the left side

    Darrelle Revis – 64 of 65 snaps on the left side


    Here's the link that goes into detail (it also explains how Joe Haden had the weakest performance last week out of the elite corners)-
    https://profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/10/analysis-notebook-week-1-2/

    crushed the buildings
  • #1hiphopjunki3
    #1hiphopjunki3 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    allday1992 wrote: »
    Y'all giving him way too much credit for that game. The Packers game plan was to move Nelson to the left side to either

    A.) Force Sherman out his comfort zone and move

    Or

    B.) Get their number #1 WR on the Seahawks #2 DB

    Now if y'all wanna give him props for yoking Jared Boykin cool but to act like any NFL QB would be scared of one side of the field is stupid. Imo Maxwell deserves more credit for what he did to Jordy Nelson

    Exactly.

    Maxwell is the worse out of the two between him and Sherman, so of course you are going to pick on the weaker player

    Sherman is a good player but he also has the luxury of having 2 of the best safeties in football watching his back along with a solid pass rush.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Y'all ? give Cam so much credit. Lmao.
  • R.D.
    R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lmaooo ? is madddddd

    Sherman the GOAT
  • KneeGro_DuperMan
    KneeGro_DuperMan Members Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aaron Rodgers is ?
  • natural born sinners
    natural born sinners Members Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Right now..sherman is the best cb in the league..he is the least tested one out of all the elite corners..that means QB's are basically telling us the fans he is the least fuckwitable dude on the field
  • natural born sinners
    natural born sinners Members Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also find em highly entertaining. .the hand shake offer to crabtree was like T.O on the dallas star..just funnier due to crabtree's reaction lol
  • Kellmill
    Kellmill Members, Writer Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I Am Jay ? wrote: »
    Most overrated player of our generation

  • MR.CJ
    MR.CJ Members Posts: 64,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FYI for you ? that hate the fact that he only plays one side of the field, here's some advanced tracking for last week that compares him to other elite corners:

    Richard Sherman – 61 of 61 snaps on the left side

    Patrick Peterson – 58 of 62 snaps on the left side

    Darrelle Revis – 64 of 65 snaps on the left side


    Here's the link that goes into detail (it also explains how Joe Haden had the weakest performance last week out of the elite corners)-
    https://profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/10/analysis-notebook-week-1-2/

    Talk to em
  • A$AP_A$TON
    A$AP_A$TON Members Posts: 11,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ? really drinking the Sherman Kool-Aid. #Pause

    He a product of that Seahawks environment. Peterson and Haden the truth and they got less help.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A$AP_A$TON wrote: »
    ? really drinking the Sherman Kool-Aid. #Pause

    He a product of that Seahawks environment. Peterson and Haden the truth and they got less help.

    Peterson gave up 7 TDs last year. Thats alot and PP my boy
  • JDSTAYWITIT
    JDSTAYWITIT Members Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A$AP_A$TON wrote: »
    ? really drinking the Sherman Kool-Aid. #Pause

    He a product of that Seahawks environment. Peterson and Haden the truth and they got less help.

    the whole point of being an "elite" cover corner is the fact that your not supposed to need "help"