50 Greatest NBA Players: the Next Ten

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  • R.D.
    R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    marc123 wrote: »
    Duncan, lebron and 8 more ? ...

    you better say Kobe by name
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  • Shizlansky
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    R.D. wrote: »
    marc123 wrote: »
    Duncan, lebron and 8 more ? ...

    you better say Kobe by name

    Basically.
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  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Kobe
    LBJ
    Duncan
    Dirk
    Wade
    AI
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  • D0wn
    D0wn Members Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Kobe
    Duncan
    Lebron
    Dirk
    Pierce
    Garnett
    Kidd
    Wade
    Iverson
    J Shuttlesworth

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  • bignorm
    bignorm Members Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Why Reggie over Allen? Like Isaih said, Reggie drove the truck the whole career. Ray spent at least 1/3 of his career as a passenger or codriver. Reggie shot contested 3's his whole career, not kick out open 3's.
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  • KneeGro_DuperMan
    KneeGro_DuperMan Members Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ray Allen always had more help than Reggie.
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  • Tommy bilfiger
    Tommy bilfiger Members Posts: 22,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    TRILLip Brooks wrote: »
    If Iverson is a lock than so is Wade seeing how Wade is better than AI

    Lol @ 5 people no signing this.Wade aint better than iverson now?
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  • KneeGro_DuperMan
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    Duncan's mvps belong to Kobe & J Kidd
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  • _Lefty
    _Lefty Members Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2014
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    Dwyane Wade is better than Allen Iverson. The tipping point to me is field goal percentage and superior defense for wade, plus championships, one of which wade carried the team on his back and averaged 35 points(Shaq averaged 13 for those that will say he didn't carry them). I know Iverson led the league in steals, but that's not defending, that's a free safety. AI was a liability against good 2 guards in his career, thats why Mckie was so important. John stockton is the all time steals leader and that ? was gettin punished. Allen iverson simply was not as efficient as Wade. He was one of the most captivating, tough, courageous players of all time, but so was wade. Had Allen Iverson played point guard like he was supposed to, this may be a different conversation. At the 2, he just doesn't stand a chance against wade.
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  • R.D.
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    Tommy bilfiger wrote: »
    TRILLip Brooks wrote: »
    If Iverson is a lock than so is Wade seeing how Wade is better than AI

    Lol @ 5 people no signing this.Wade aint better than iverson now?

    No
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  • R.D.
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    _Lefty wrote: »
    Dwyane Wade is better than Allen Iverson. The tipping point to me is field goal percentage and superior defense for wade, plus championships, one of which wade carried the team on his back and averaged 35 points(Shaq averaged 13 for those that will say he didn't carry them). I know Iverson led the league in steals, but that's not defending, that's a free safety. AI was a liability against good 2 guards in his career, thats why Mckie was so important. John stockton is the all time steals leader and that ? was gettin punished. Allen iverson simply was not as efficient as Wade. He was one of the most captivating, tough, courageous players of all time, but so was wade. Had Allen Iverson played point guard like he was supposed to, this may be a different conversation. At the 2, he just doesn't stand a chance against wade.

    Iverson is 5'10...of course he was a liability against "good 2 guards"

    Name some 2's Wade locked up for an extended period

    Btw Iverson averaged at least 7 assists 8/14 years

    And Eric Snow was the point in Philly for 6 years
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  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tommy bilfiger wrote: »
    TRILLip Brooks wrote: »
    If Iverson is a lock than so is Wade seeing how Wade is better than AI

    Lol @ 5 people no signing this.Wade aint better than iverson now?

    Fatherless ?

    On the court, D Wade was a better shooter, play maker, defender, shot blocker, more efficient

    Only thing Iverson was better at was jacking up 30 shots a game and shooting a bad percentage
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  • playmaker88
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    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson
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  • Beta
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    ? got blind love for Allen Iverson. Wade was/is the far better, more efficient, two way player..

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  • O.G.
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    Sixer fan here. Zaire's daddy is better than Iverson.
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  • Beta
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    Fg% can't be a factor?

    Player A shoots 38% from the field and 35% from three to average 20 ppg

    Player B shots 45% from the field and 40% from three to average 20 ppg

    Wouldn't player B be considered the better player?
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  • O.G.
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    Things a Kobe fan would say.
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  • TRILLip Brooks
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    Why not?

    Would rather have somebody on your team that takes 30 shots to get 30 points or somebody who takes 15 to get 30
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  • playmaker88
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    O.G. wrote: »
    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    Things a Kobe fan would say.

    5 Golden rings
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  • O.G.
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    O.G. wrote: »
    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    Things a Kobe fan would say.

    5 Golden rings

    2 Chainz
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  • gman82
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    If the list is based on talent then TMac Grant Hill, and Penny SHOULD be on it, but if winning and long gevitity is factored in they shouldn't. Wade should be on the list as well as Iverson
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  • _Lefty
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    I'll take a 25ppg with 50% fgp over

    30 ppg with a 40% fgp

    Higher fgp means more efficient my g. Iverson was the 10-26est ass ? I have ever seen. Of course he gon drop 30 he shoot 30 times a game.
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  • playmaker88
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    _Lefty wrote: »
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    I'll take a 25ppg with 50% fgp over

    30 ppg with a 40% fgp

    Higher fgp means more efficient my g. Iverson was the 10-26est ass ? I have ever seen. Of course he gon drop 30 he shoot 30 times a game.

    Ill take what I see, all im saying fg percentage is not a deciding factor one person might be a jump shooter another a slasher.. one might have shooters the other not so on and so forth
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  • Shizlansky
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    So with LBJ elite fg% over the last 5 years is the greatest non big man of all time?




    MJ > LBJ
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  • TRILLip Brooks
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    edited October 2014
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    _Lefty wrote: »
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    playmaker88 wrote: »
    Lol at fieldgoal percentage being a factor in who is better but I agree wade is better than iverson

    I'll take a 25ppg with 50% fgp over

    30 ppg with a 40% fgp

    Higher fgp means more efficient my g. Iverson was the 10-26est ass ? I have ever seen. Of course he gon drop 30 he shoot 30 times a game.

    Ill take what I see, all im saying fg percentage is not a deciding factor one person might be a jump shooter another a slasher.. one might have shooters the other not so on and so forth

    Where in my post did I say FG% was the deciding factor? Did I not mention him also being a better shooter, play maker and defender as well
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