Marvin Gaye Family Wins First Legal Battle Against Robin Thicke, Pharrell, & T.I.
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Had the song not have gotten as big as it did, would it matter to anyone?
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Sooo...it's 2014 and people still getting sued for sample violations?
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Robin catching L after L, since leaving Real Husbands of Hollywood lol
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Rick James ? Hammer behind can't touch this....they split it 80/20 rick James way.....
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Had the song not have gotten as big as it did, would it matter to anyone?
Are you suggesting the motives for this lawsuit aren't as benevolent as it stated to be??
If it was just another track sitting on an album never released as a single?
And THIS is why the Gaye family suddenly feel that artists are "stealing" Marvin's ""groove"" should be held accountable?
"BLURRED LINES" charting history
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There's a percentage of the song that has to be changed in order for it to dodge copyright law. Paying for it and/or having the permission to use it can work as well.
The similarities are obvious to anybody that's up on they oldies. Pharrell should of known better. -
u got to giiive it up..
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Rick James ? Hammer behind can't touch this....they split it 80/20 rick James way.....
dam never new that and outta that 20% for Hammer the label probably took at least half
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Rick James ? Hammer behind can't touch this....they split it 80/20 rick James way.....
dam never new that and outta that 20% for Hammer the label probably took at least half
Yea I got a file somewhere w the publishing breakdown of most major hits -
Whether it's ruled copyright infringement or not, this isn't simply a case of an artist stealing the "vibe" of another
Comparing the two songs the notes, bars, phrasing, melodies, etc share strong similarities ...all are expressions which can be legally protected by law
I can't knock the Gaye family for trying to protect Gaye's musical legacy
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Did 3000 "steal" from those old 60's groups (particularly the Beatles) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw
its okay to steal from whites.
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First Paula, now legal battle. This is bout to be a long drawn out affair
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Probably should've taken the settlement if it was mid 6 figures. Sounds like Pharrell musically protected them well enough.
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Looking at this case and people reactions...
the only real problem here is it was a white boy that sung this song
Had it been D'Angelo or a Usher......
You wouldn't hear cries to burn damn the whole damn house just to spite "blue eyed soul"
the least he could of done was give them sample credits inside the album cover.. did he?
They were offered cash
And Pharrell is not known for sampling,and when he does he gives proper credit
Bet you didnt know this was a Pharrell beat. Teddy Riley got credit though. Pharrell most definitely samples.
http://youtu.be/NOKd_et0A4o
you can hear Pharrell say SWV -
Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Rick James ? Hammer behind can't touch this....they split it 80/20 rick James way.....
dam never new that and outta that 20% for Hammer the label probably took at least half
Yea I got a file somewhere w the publishing breakdown of most major hits
Get that in PDF -
i think that people are giving too much attention to that Robin THICKE 's song
song is good but FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM A MARVIN GAYE SONG imo
by taking this ? to court they have put THICKE in the same level /realm as MARVIN GAYE which is imo a great mistake and an insult to MARVIN GAYE SUPER TALENT AND LEGACY.
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its like Jordan constantely complaining about all the swagger jacking of KOBE.
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LEMZWYN_LANISTER wrote: »i think that people are giving too much attention to that Robin THICKE 's song
song is good but FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM A MARVIN GAYE SONG imo
by taking this ? to court they have put THICKE in the same level /realm as MARVIN GAYE which is imo a great mistake and an insult to MARVIN GAYE SUPER TALENT AND LEGACY.
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When I first heard blurred lines on the radio I was like oh sweet Marvin Gaye and then I was like wtf is this ? ?
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Turfaholic wrote: »Looking at this case and people reactions...
the only real problem here is it was a white boy that sung this song
Had it been D'Angelo or a Usher......
You wouldn't hear cries to burn damn the whole damn house just to spite "blue eyed soul"
the least he could of done was give them sample credits inside the album cover.. did he?
They were offered cash
And Pharrell is not known for sampling,and when he does he gives proper credit
Bet you didnt know this was a Pharrell beat. Teddy Riley got credit though. Pharrell most definitely samples.http://youtu.be/NOKd_et0A4o
you can hear Pharrell say SWV
Bet you didn't know you failed at reading comprehension
They were offered cash
And Pharrell is not known for sampling,and when he does he gives proper credit
I NEVER said Pharrell does not sample,I clearly started when he does,he gives proper credit.
As a producer(s) Pharrell/The Neptunes are not known as "sample" producers,like a KanYe,Premo,Pete Rock etc.
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The songs sound the same, they were trying to sample without giving appropriate due.
Trying to split hairs using major and minor keys is like finding out your copyrighted recipe was stolen but the thief says it's different because they used seasoning salt instead of normal white table salt.
The irony of the song being called "Blurred Lines" isn't lost on me either. The line of what is considered a sample or interpolation versus what is an original piece based on another song is blurred in this case. Perhaps the keys are different, as the defense claims, that doesn't mean they didn't steal the song, only that they did an end round it legally. Basically they found a way to steal the song legally...
As a huge proponent of sampling I don't think the Thicke and Co. should be getting sued (as at as I am concerned it's a sample) but they also shouldn't be trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes either. This was an obvious ripoff Marvin's record, that's the only sticking point with me.
If you borrow give credit where it's due and move on. That won't happen because lawyers are greedy and will fight this case tooth an nail. One hope I do have is that rappers pay attention to the outcome because this is probably going to be the blueprint to gettin around copyright law so sampling can make a proper return. -
Turfaholic wrote: »Looking at this case and people reactions...
the only real problem here is it was a white boy that sung this song
Had it been D'Angelo or a Usher......
You wouldn't hear cries to burn damn the whole damn house just to spite "blue eyed soul"
the least he could of done was give them sample credits inside the album cover.. did he?
They were offered cash
And Pharrell is not known for sampling,and when he does he gives proper credit
Bet you didnt know this was a Pharrell beat. Teddy Riley got credit though. Pharrell most definitely samples.http://youtu.be/NOKd_et0A4o
you can hear Pharrell say SWV
Bet you didn't know you failed at reading comprehension
They were offered cash
And Pharrell is not known for sampling,and when he does he gives proper credit
I NEVER said Pharrell does not sample,I clearly started when he does,he gives proper credit.
As a producer(s) Pharrell/The Neptunes are not known as "sample" producers,like a KanYe,Premo,Pete Rock etc.
Youre not very knowledgeable about music..... heres another sampled Neptune beat
http://youtu.be/orM5cV3gEZ0
Hell heres a whole list 4 ya
http://www.whosampled.com/The-Neptunes/producer-samples/ -
The songs sound the same, they were trying to sample without giving appropriate due.
Trying to split hairs using major and minor keys is like finding out your copyrighted recipe was stolen but the thief says it's different because they used seasoning salt instead of normal white table salt.
The irony of the song being called "Blurred Lines" isn't lost on me either. The line of what is considered a sample or interpolation versus what is an original piece based on another song is blurred in this case. Perhaps the keys are different, as the defense claims, that doesn't mean they didn't steal the song, only that they did an end round it legally. Basically they found a way to steal the song legally...
As a huge proponent of sampling I don't think the Thicke and Co. should be getting sued (as at as I am concerned it's a sample) but they also shouldn't be trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes either. This was an obvious ripoff Marvin's record, that's the only sticking point with me.
If you borrow give credit where it's due and move on. That won't happen because lawyers are greedy and will fight this case tooth an nail. One hope I do have is that rappers pay attention to the outcome because this is probably going to be the blueprint to gettin around copyright law so sampling can make a proper return.
I think you're wrong
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I believe it. Pay 'em.
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Turfaholic wrote: »Youre not very knowledgeable about music..... heres another sampled Neptune beat
Hell heres a whole list 4 ya
http://www.whosampled.com/The-Neptunes/producer-samples/
Are you slow?
