Does it seem like the NBA lacks Superstars?
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »
Their jersey don't have intials on ? and there are than quite a few people in the league that can have the same intials.
So like I said just type the ? name at least once then abbrevieate that ? from there. -
lol who of significance has the same initials as A.D. or K.D.?
hell even when iverson was playing ? knew damn well A.I. wasnt no andre igudola lol -
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T/S may have a point depending on his definition of superstar. If he's saying the NBA lacks talent...I dunno about that. But if he's saying there aren't many people that are recognizable to much of the public outside NBA fans...he's probably right. Kobe and Lebron are household names. I dunno who in the younger group of guys is in that category.
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Honestly this crop of stars might be better then the early 2000's stars. It was more individual scoring back then but it was hella low scoring overall. The league is in good hands for the next 5-10 years for sure
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I'm an 80's baby too and I can say you have more All-Stars in today's game (superstars is debateable) than yesterday and overrall players.
Can't really get into an argument with you besides using numbers. These are the players of today.
We have to put structure to the years we're talking about for players primes within a generation.
I say 10 year stretches is fair. In other words give me the 80's or 90's and I'll give you a list of players from the years 2015 to 2005. You'll see that today the past 10 years has been pretty good to basketball.
For the sake of the 4 year stretch you're probably talking about I'll leave off players like Kevin Garnett or Ray Allen and go for the list below for the past 4 years and compare that with 10 years.
Stephen Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Aldridge, D-Rose, Kyrie Irving are Superstars in ANY day.
But here's a list of All-Stars comparable with any day in numbers you're talking, some of them I already listed above as Superstars:
Westbrook
John Wall
Durant
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
La Marcus Aldridge
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Stephen Curry
Anthony Davis
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo
Dirk
Dwight (hard to put him on this list cause he's a lion in the land of oz with no heart)
Derrick Rose
(intentionally left off regular All-Stars such as: Demarcus Cousins, Jimmy Butler, Chris Bosh,Derron Williams,Zach Randolph, Klay Thompson,Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan (only b/c of his age today is he not a superstar), Horford,Teague, Brook Lopez, Paul Pierce, Blake Griffin (almost superstar but just isn't and might not ever be) -
I'm an 80's baby too and I can say you have more All-Stars in today's game (superstars is debateable) than yesterday and overrall players.
Can't really get into an argument with you besides using numbers. These are the players of today.
We have to put structure to the years we're talking about for players primes within a generation.
I say 10 year stretches is fair. In other words give me the 80's or 90's and I'll give you a list of players from the years 2015 to 2005. You'll see that today the past 10 years has been pretty good to basketball.
For the sake of the 4 year stretch you're probably talking about I'll leave off players like Kevin Garnett or Ray Allen and go for the list below for the past 4 years and compare that with 10 years.
Stephen Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Aldridge, D-Rose, Kyrie Irving are Superstars in ANY day.
But here's a list of All-Stars comparable with any day in numbers you're talking, some of them I already listed above as Superstars:
Westbrook
John Wall
Durant
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
La Marcus Aldridge
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Stephen Curry
Anthony Davis
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo
Dirk
Dwight (hard to put him on this list cause he's a lion in the land of oz with no heart)
Derrick Rose
(intentionally left off regular All-Stars such as: Demarcus Cousins, Jimmy Butler, Chris Bosh,Derron Williams,Zach Randolph, Klay Thompson,Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan (only b/c of his age today is he not a superstar), Horford,Teague, Brook Lopez, Paul Pierce, Blake Griffin (almost superstar but just isn't and might not ever be)
I wouldn't call the bold superstars. Even Durant's debatable. Superstars have a certain amount of popularity within the general public, and a certain amount of success. Curry is working on getting on superstar level. Westbrook is the #2 guy on a team that has 1 finals appearance and got swept. Chris Paul has had too little team success for someone's who's 30 and has been in the league for a decade. Aldridge....c'mon. I'm skeptical on Rose, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. And Irving isn't there yet, but if him and Lebron can stream together some titles it could happen. -
bow to royalty wrote: »I'm an 80's baby too and I can say you have more All-Stars in today's game (superstars is debateable) than yesterday and overrall players.
Can't really get into an argument with you besides using numbers. These are the players of today.
We have to put structure to the years we're talking about for players primes within a generation.
I say 10 year stretches is fair. In other words give me the 80's or 90's and I'll give you a list of players from the years 2015 to 2005. You'll see that today the past 10 years has been pretty good to basketball.
For the sake of the 4 year stretch you're probably talking about I'll leave off players like Kevin Garnett or Ray Allen and go for the list below for the past 4 years and compare that with 10 years.
Stephen Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Aldridge, D-Rose, Kyrie Irving are Superstars in ANY day.
But here's a list of All-Stars comparable with any day in numbers you're talking, some of them I already listed above as Superstars:
Westbrook
John Wall
Durant
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
La Marcus Aldridge
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Stephen Curry
Anthony Davis
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo
Dirk
Dwight (hard to put him on this list cause he's a lion in the land of oz with no heart)
Derrick Rose
(intentionally left off regular All-Stars such as: Demarcus Cousins, Jimmy Butler, Chris Bosh,Derron Williams,Zach Randolph, Klay Thompson,Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan (only b/c of his age today is he not a superstar), Horford,Teague, Brook Lopez, Paul Pierce, Blake Griffin (almost superstar but just isn't and might not ever be)
I wouldn't call the bold superstars. Even Durant's debatable. Superstars have a certain amount of popularity within the general public, and a certain amount of success. Curry is working on getting on superstar level. Westbrook is the #2 guy on a team that has 1 finals appearance and got swept. Chris Paul has had too little team success for someone's who's 30 and has been in the league for a decade. Aldridge....c'mon. I'm skeptical on Rose, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. And Irving isn't there yet, but if him and Lebron can stream together some titles it could happen.
KD easily a superstar
And Russ didn't get the broom
Yall forget how old Curry is too -
Shizlansky wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »I'm an 80's baby too and I can say you have more All-Stars in today's game (superstars is debateable) than yesterday and overrall players.
Can't really get into an argument with you besides using numbers. These are the players of today.
We have to put structure to the years we're talking about for players primes within a generation.
I say 10 year stretches is fair. In other words give me the 80's or 90's and I'll give you a list of players from the years 2015 to 2005. You'll see that today the past 10 years has been pretty good to basketball.
For the sake of the 4 year stretch you're probably talking about I'll leave off players like Kevin Garnett or Ray Allen and go for the list below for the past 4 years and compare that with 10 years.
Stephen Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Aldridge, D-Rose, Kyrie Irving are Superstars in ANY day.
But here's a list of All-Stars comparable with any day in numbers you're talking, some of them I already listed above as Superstars:
Westbrook
John Wall
Durant
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
La Marcus Aldridge
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Stephen Curry
Anthony Davis
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo
Dirk
Dwight (hard to put him on this list cause he's a lion in the land of oz with no heart)
Derrick Rose
(intentionally left off regular All-Stars such as: Demarcus Cousins, Jimmy Butler, Chris Bosh,Derron Williams,Zach Randolph, Klay Thompson,Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan (only b/c of his age today is he not a superstar), Horford,Teague, Brook Lopez, Paul Pierce, Blake Griffin (almost superstar but just isn't and might not ever be)
I wouldn't call the bold superstars. Even Durant's debatable. Superstars have a certain amount of popularity within the general public, and a certain amount of success. Curry is working on getting on superstar level. Westbrook is the #2 guy on a team that has 1 finals appearance and got swept. Chris Paul has had too little team success for someone's who's 30 and has been in the league for a decade. Aldridge....c'mon. I'm skeptical on Rose, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. And Irving isn't there yet, but if him and Lebron can stream together some titles it could happen.
KD easily a superstar
And Russ didn't get the broom
Yall forget how old Curry is too
KD was on his way to superstar then fell off the path, but I think he didn't reach the level of team success people expected of him. Then the media stopped loving him as much (and loving Westbrook more because of this year). Hard to be easily a superstar when people debate if it's your team, unless you have a beastly team (Shaq/Kobe, Shaq/Wade, Lebron/Wade, Spurs, etc.). I'm not a NBA fan at all, and only watch some games in some series. But that may make me an even better judge of all-star because sometimes big NBA fans forget non-fans dunno these people. Dude said Aldridge up there...I had to think hard about who he was.
You're a Saints fan...look at Jimmy Graham. We know he's an extremely dominant TE, and real football fans consider him a Superstar. But casual fans may not even know who he is. And casual fans determine who's a superstar IMO. Unless T/S was using Superstar to describe talent...if that's the case I think he chose the wrong word -
bow to royalty wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »bow to royalty wrote: »I'm an 80's baby too and I can say you have more All-Stars in today's game (superstars is debateable) than yesterday and overrall players.
Can't really get into an argument with you besides using numbers. These are the players of today.
We have to put structure to the years we're talking about for players primes within a generation.
I say 10 year stretches is fair. In other words give me the 80's or 90's and I'll give you a list of players from the years 2015 to 2005. You'll see that today the past 10 years has been pretty good to basketball.
For the sake of the 4 year stretch you're probably talking about I'll leave off players like Kevin Garnett or Ray Allen and go for the list below for the past 4 years and compare that with 10 years.
Stephen Curry, Westbrook, Durant, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Aldridge, D-Rose, Kyrie Irving are Superstars in ANY day.
But here's a list of All-Stars comparable with any day in numbers you're talking, some of them I already listed above as Superstars:
Westbrook
John Wall
Durant
Chris Paul
Tony Parker
La Marcus Aldridge
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Stephen Curry
Anthony Davis
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo
Dirk
Dwight (hard to put him on this list cause he's a lion in the land of oz with no heart)
Derrick Rose
(intentionally left off regular All-Stars such as: Demarcus Cousins, Jimmy Butler, Chris Bosh,Derron Williams,Zach Randolph, Klay Thompson,Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan (only b/c of his age today is he not a superstar), Horford,Teague, Brook Lopez, Paul Pierce, Blake Griffin (almost superstar but just isn't and might not ever be)
I wouldn't call the bold superstars. Even Durant's debatable. Superstars have a certain amount of popularity within the general public, and a certain amount of success. Curry is working on getting on superstar level. Westbrook is the #2 guy on a team that has 1 finals appearance and got swept. Chris Paul has had too little team success for someone's who's 30 and has been in the league for a decade. Aldridge....c'mon. I'm skeptical on Rose, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. And Irving isn't there yet, but if him and Lebron can stream together some titles it could happen.
KD easily a superstar
And Russ didn't get the broom
Yall forget how old Curry is too
KD was on his way to superstar then fell off the path, but I think he didn't reach the level of team success people expected of him. Then the media stopped loving him as much (and loving Westbrook more because of this year). Hard to be easily a superstar when people debate if it's your team, unless you have a beastly team (Shaq/Kobe, Shaq/Wade, Lebron/Wade, Spurs, etc.). I'm not a NBA fan at all, and only watch some games in some series. But that may make me an even better judge of all-star because sometimes big NBA fans forget non-fans dunno these people. Dude said Aldridge up there...I had to think hard about who he was.
yea bruh u need to stop right here and turn around. -
in what world is durant not a superstar
he even got his own corny ass childrens movie.
being a household name aint the only factor in being a superstar, results and numbers are a factor two, kevin durant is the damn 2nd best player in the nba. -
I edited before you posted. The part I added talked about how it's based on your definition of Superstar, and I don't use superstar to describe talent. But I use superstar to describe popularity. Proof? Name me some Superstar Offensive Linemen please. Tell me Tim Tebow isn't more of a superstar than Phillip Rivers.
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Dude who made the thread said name more than 5. I did it. What one considers a superstar is relative. I look at numbers, popularity, franchise player, consistency, impact on the game style wise, rings, statistics. I provided about 15 names, well over 5, now in any era I'm going to challenge 80's baby to name me in only that 10 year span 15 players that nba students of the game can recognize.
I'll help out. In the 80's there was: (Bird, Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Barkley, Jordan, Isaiah,Dominique, Clyde Drexler, Ewing) After that the numbers get pretty dim. You can't say Dr.J (retiring)or Reggie Miller (a rookie) b/c those players weren't no where near their prime at that time.
Now go for the 90's and the year 2000-2010.
I respect the game, but I can't honestly sit here and act like we don't have more teams and an equal amount of superstars in the NBA. The reason they might not receive some of the fandom they used to is b/c white people ain't really trying to act like they watch the NBA today; so White people ain't talking about them like they used to in the 80's.
The game itself is on point, (on other guy's point) just cause a casual fan ain't paying attention doesn't mean much when you now have China, France, London, Brazil and even Korea paying attention and buying jerseys and watching games.
