Better Overall Wrestler Vol. 2: HBK vs Stone Cold Steve Austin
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HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »And it funny how ? love to hate on HHH but Austin also never wanted to put over talent which was the main reason he took his ball and went home...
Not hatin on Austin for it but it's funny how wrestling fans are hypocrites with that ? , they do it with Cena also, if Austin had it his way he would've had a Cena reign before Cena, barring his injuries..
its funny how short sighted ? boys like u mention this w/o the proper context
austin had no prob puttin over brock under proper circumstances, if ur a wrestling fan and u cant see how ? stupid it would be for two names like scsa and brock to randomly face of in a 6 min match with no damn buildup to it when it could actually b a last match main event, u need to be watching ping pong and gtfoh.
throwing austin/brock on a random raw drawin no money is just as dumb as throwin goldberg/hogan with just a weeks notice on nitro in a not even sold out georgia dome
he went home cuz of creatives constant dumb ? ideas like that and he gets more hate than he should for standing up and not being booked as a fool and not lettin creative do stupid ? when theres money to b made
That cape on a little too tight ? calm down, Brock was suppose to beat Hogan on Smackdown, Austin on RAW, then Rock for the title at SS but obviously that didn't happen bc of Austin wanting to get the biggest pay cut off it and the fact that he didn't want to put Brock over bc Brock was gettin a push out the gate.. -
HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »And it funny how ? love to hate on HHH but Austin also never wanted to put over talent which was the main reason he took his ball and went home...
Not hatin on Austin for it but it's funny how wrestling fans are hypocrites with that ? , they do it with Cena also, if Austin had it his way he would've had a Cena reign before Cena, barring his injuries..
its funny how short sighted ? boys like u mention this w/o the proper context
austin had no prob puttin over brock under proper circumstances, if ur a wrestling fan and u cant see how ? stupid it would be for two names like scsa and brock to randomly face of in a 6 min match with no damn buildup to it when it could actually b a last match main event, u need to be watching ping pong and gtfoh.
throwing austin/brock on a random raw drawin no money is just as dumb as throwin goldberg/hogan with just a weeks notice on nitro in a not even sold out georgia dome
he went home cuz of creatives constant dumb ? ideas like that and he gets more hate than he should for standing up and not being booked as a fool and not lettin creative do stupid ? when theres money to b made
That cape on a little too tight ? calm down, Brock was suppose to beat Hogan on Smackdown, Austin on RAW, then Rock for the title at SS but obviously that didn't happen bc of Austin wanting to get the biggest pay cut off it and the fact that he didn't want to put Brock over bc Brock was gettin a push out the gate..
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HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »hhh gets the hate cuz he was never on the rocks or scsa's level but thought he was and was forced on us as if he was and played the political game for some of his status. also because he had title reigns at time when there were more deserving contenders. shiiddd yall defended kane "greatness" guess who put him over for the title, sure wasnt hhh lmao
And we all know HHH played politics (who hasn't at the top?) But HHH hate is unjustified, he's put over plenty of talent on the biggest stage, on RAW, on PPVs ect he's main evented plenty of sold out PPVs in 99 early 2000s and the Attitude Era wouldn't have been as big w/o him, if you're a fan with common sense you should know all this ? ...
Hating on HHH is just a Internet mark thing to do.. -
HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »hhh gets the hate cuz he was never on the rocks or scsa's level but thought he was and was forced on us as if he was and played the political game for some of his status. also because he had title reigns at time when there were more deserving contenders. shiiddd yall defended kane "greatness" guess who put him over for the title, sure wasnt hhh lmao
he's put over plenty of talent on the biggest stage, on RAW, on PPVs the Attitude Era wouldn't have been as big w/o him,
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HBKI can name a bunch of ? that HHH put over, can't say the same for Austin
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HBKI can name a bunch of ? that HHH put over, can't say the same for Austin
yea cuz the top babyface draw shoulda lost a lot more often than the fledgling heel. -
HBKjeff hardy(i think, and with poor timing if that)
shelton benjamin
batista
orton
ill give him credit for those -
HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »jeff hardy(i think, and with poor timing if that)
shelton benjamin
batista
orton
ill give him credit for those
The Shield (along with Evolution)
Benoit
Batista
DB
Edge
Benjamin
Orton
Jeff
Sheamus
Cena
Flair (washed up, post Evolution Flair he let go over multiple times)
Goldberg
Rock (HHH and Rock were on the same level during their IC feuds in 97-98.. And when HHH put Rock over at Backlash for the Title the place went crazy)
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HBKdb, i forgot that, but he was the bigger star at that moment anyway and hhh was semi retired, i dont count cena flair or rock, either, they were either already established or bigger stars already, thats like sayin hhh put over ultimate warrior. or like sayin bray put cena over, hhh was below rock in 98, they helped each other tho. hhh had poor timing with goldberg and shoulda lost in the chamber, goldberg was more over anyway and what he get for that, has to drop the title so hhh can continue his reign of terror. ill give credit for benoit and sheamus, but i don remember edge, and like i said with hardy, there were times he coulda just lost to hardy head up but instead has to put edge in to take the fall, and hardy was the bigger star at that time too, the list is just as long if not longer with ? with more momentum that should have gon over hhh
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HBKHHH did put over Cena, he tapped out to that ? ? at Mania 22 which gave Cena his first successful Mania title defense
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Stone Cold Steve AustinWatching you two argue over wrestling >>> Raw
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HBKHHH did put over Cena, he tapped out to that ? ? at Mania 22 which gave Cena his first successful Mania title defense
so he put over some one who was already champ and face of the company
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HBKHHH flat out put Rock over (or should I say Rocky Maivia) for his first IC Title... And HHH was just as over as Rock in 97/98 when he was in DX while Rock was still getting his feet under him before he really took off as The Rock...
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HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »
Yes he put him over, HHH at that point in his career didn't have to lose that match to Cena in that fashion, it didn't matter if Cena was already champion.... And you bringing up Warrior is ? , Warrior was a vet and that was HHH first ever Mania, of course the vet wins that match.. -
HBKfootage from when hhh was still the background player behind hbk and was barely a mid card guy worthy of mention, yea that helps
id say rock had the edge in 98 but hhh wasnt a chump any more. -
HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »footage from when hhh was still the background player behind hbk and was barely a mid card guy worthy of mention, yea that helps
id say rock had the edge in 98 but hhh wasnt a chump any more.
I post footage of Triple H as IC Champion dropping the belt to Rock to give him his first ever IC Title run and that translates to you that HHH was "a backround mic carder that was barley of mention"?? Yea im done with your ? ass
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HBKhhh wasnt lookin like he was on his way to the top then, he was a bland dx member when hbk was the lead, of course he drops to rock, dude was bout to b a star, now if u was talkin bout in 98 when hhh was taken more serious then ud have a point, foh bringin up that wcw saturday night in 2000 (irrelevant) ass ic reign u posted
and who has a bigger list of ? that "should have been put over" than hhh, hogan if anyone... can u name as many for austin or the rock??? ? no.
hhh=shane douglas with a better choice in women. or better yet, a b+ player that tried to come off as a++ -
HBKAll that useless false ? you typed doesn't change the FACT that HHH put Rock over, but keep being ? ... ? like you can't be taken seriously when talkin about HHH or any topic about wrestling, the type of ? that wanted HHH to lose every high profile match he was in and if he didn't he was burying guys or feeding his ego to you lames, lol @ HHH being "bland" when DX when first popped off in the Attitude Era, dumbest ? i ever read....
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »hhh gets the hate cuz he was never on the rocks or scsa's level but thought he was and was forced on us as if he was and played the political game for some of his status. also because he had title reigns at time when there were more deserving contenders. shiiddd yall defended kane "greatness" guess who put him over for the title, sure wasnt hhh lmao
let it go bruh
and lets not act like austin didnt win the title back 24 hours later
also, hhh did drop the IC title to kane in 2001. but i see your point -
HBKAll that useless false ? you typed doesn't change the FACT that HHH put Rock over, but keep being ? ... ? like you can't be taken seriously when talkin about HHH or any topic about wrestling, the type of ? that wanted HHH to lose every high profile match he was in and if he didn't he was burying guys or feeding his ego to you lames, lol @ HHH being "bland" when DX when first popped off in the Attitude Era, dumbest ? i ever read....
so hhh wasnt hbk lackey when dx first popped off? damn near being overshadowed by chyna?
and nah hhh aint have to lose every high profile match, just lose at the right time.
i havent seen your answer to who has a higher list of ? they buried or didnt put over at the right time -
HBKPeezy_Jenkins wrote: »All that useless false ? you typed doesn't change the FACT that HHH put Rock over, but keep being ? ... ? like you can't be taken seriously when talkin about HHH or any topic about wrestling, the type of ? that wanted HHH to lose every high profile match he was in and if he didn't he was burying guys or feeding his ego to you lames, lol @ HHH being "bland" when DX when first popped off in the Attitude Era, dumbest ? i ever read....
so hhh wasnt hbk lackey when dx first popped off? damn near being overshadowed by chyna?
and nah hhh aint have to lose every high profile match, just lose at the right time.
i havent seen your answer to who has a higher list of ? they buried or didnt put over at the right time
Cena, Flair and Hogan (when you combine his WWF and WCW run) are top 3, don't know how HHH can be considered the highest when he's actually put over multiple people at the right time and he was doing what Flair and the Kliq taught him to do as far as keeping his spot at the top -
HBKFlair? This ? just said RIC FLAIR don't put people over? The stylin and profilin, limousine ridin, jet flyin, WOOOOOOOOO Nature Boy?
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HBKFlair? This ? just said RIC FLAIR don't put people over? The stylin and profilin, limousine ridin, jet flyin, WOOOOOOOOO Nature Boy?
GTFOH
You don't reach 16 World Titles but at the same time put over talent, that doesn't even make sense.. Flair in his older Ruthless Aggression WWE days put people over but not in his NWA,WWF and especially his WCW Four Horsemen days -
Stone Cold Steve AustinPutting people over is when you're the man for a significant period of time aka main event level and lose to another guy of a CLEARLY lesser status constantly or cleanly.
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Stone Cold Steve AustinWatch Stings early WCW career. He was constantly putting guys over. The best definition. The Rock is probably the best thing example in the WWE as far as super main event status. Even Orton put over Mark Henry clean at times. Cena with Owens.
