? is not a 'Man' or a 'Woman'
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? didn't die though, he left Jesus. Why else would he yell out what he did? (I know many people argue this, because it's "ungodly" for ? to leave Jesus) but we know ? cannot die, so him "dying" on the cross didn't happen.
? may set limits but he doesn't understand time. If "one day is like a thousand years" then no, no concept of time exists.
Nothing can exist outside of time, though. If ? does, he doesn't exist. If somehow he does, then he has no concept of it.
"There's only one true ? ", you cannot say that. You do not know this to be absolutely true and neither does ? . The fact that the bible claims ? is the
King above all Gods, that opened the door to the acknowledgment of other Gods but they are lesser than him. It continues to claim he's above all other Gods; claiming he's the "one true ? ". Again, that seems to allude there's other Gods.
If there is multiple universes, which the science shows there can be, then each Universe has its own set of gods, and possibly "one true ? ", and that ? doesn't know what exists outside his own universe being that time and space doesn't immediately exist outside that universe for him to know.
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No fiction is sexed
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? didn't die though, he left Jesus. Why else would he yell out what he did? (I know many people argue this, because it's "ungodly" for ? to leave Jesus) but we know ? cannot die, so him "dying" on the cross didn't happen.
? may set limits but he doesn't understand time. If "one day is like a thousand years" then no, no concept of time exists.
Nothing can exist outside of time, though. If ? does, he doesn't exist. If somehow he does, then he has no concept of it.
"There's only one true ? ", you cannot say that. You do not know this to be absolutely true and neither does ? . The fact that the bible claims ? is the
King above all Gods, that opened the door to the acknowledgment of other Gods but they are lesser than him. It continues to claim he's above all other Gods; claiming he's the "one true ? ". Again, that seems to allude there's other Gods.
If there is multiple universes, which the science shows there can be, then each Universe has its own set of gods, and possibly "one true ? ", and that ? doesn't know what exists outside his own universe being that time and space doesn't immediately exist outside that universe for him to know.
Vibe what you are saying makes no sense and is borderline trolling and only proves that you don't understand the nature of ? as described by jewish/Christian theology. The concept of ? is mutual exclusive there cannot be more than one. Now you can worship a tree but that won't make it ? as described under Christian theology.
? knows all things that can be known. That includes death and the passage of time. -
not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe. -
Malcolm Xtra wrote: »? cant be a Man or a Woman...its impossible
How can u take something from everything? Where would u put it? How can u make everything (the all) something limited like a man or a woman?
And for my Jesus folks.....why would ? need to know what it was like to walk amongst humans? Shouldnt ? already know what its like because ? is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient...? Knows all
? cannot know all.
? cannot die, can he? If not, then he cannot know what it's like.
Or
? cannot know what he doesn't know.If there is multiple universes, which the science shows there can be, then each Universe has its own set of gods, and possibly "one true ? ", and that ? doesn't know what exists outside his own universe being that time and space doesn't immediately exist outside that universe for him to know.
Trains of thought like this amuse me because they show how we as human beings can't even really begin to wrap our minds around the concept of things like ALL powerful or ALL knowing or infinity. "Can ? make something so heavy that ? can't pick it up?" Yes, and then He picks it up anyway. Lol.
Look at how ? is depicted when he's an active character in movies and TV, like in Supernatural or Spawn or Sandman or Kevin Smith's Dogma. They have to put all sorts of limits on ? 's power in order for the story to make any sense.
It was actually an atheist that explained to me that being Omnipotent means you can exist and not exist at the same time. ? blew my mind back then. Whoa!
Omniscient. That means knowing everything going through your mind AND not going through your mind. Everything you've ever experienced, remembered, and forgotten. He knows what its like to die because he knows the thoughts of every single human being (and alien lol...) ever as they die. "The Kingdom of ? is within you"
And that's just on this particular ball of mud called "Earth" - one little planet in one little galaxy in one little universe filled with trillions n trillions of galaxies containing billions of stars and planets each.
And there are infinite universes/realities, of course. Every possibility and impossibility and ?????????? is "real" in its own reality somewhere. Every piece of fiction is a small window to one of 'em. Every dream you have is you taking a quick stroll in one of 'em. Every lie ever told is the truth in one of 'em.
Try not to think too hard about it lol. One of the logical conclusions you could draw from this philosophy is "the truth doesn't matter and everything is meaningless" after all.
Crazy ? lol.
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What is more amusing is "since it's too hard to grasp; therefore ? ".
It's okay to not be able to understand things, such as the universe.
The characteristics of ? are "mind blowing" but contradictory.
If ? can put forth any type of task for himself to do, then can he put forth a task he cannot do? If not, then there's something that ? cannot do.
? cannot die.
? is eternal, there is no time.
? cannot sin.
You can make a pretty good list of things that he couldn't do due to contridictions.
Therefore, ? cannot be "all powerful".
Of course, you can keep attaching "? is so powerful you cannot comprehend it" type of cop outs to continue to keep ? , ? .
And that's what it comes down to. No believer wants any type of laws or logic applied to ? . It's a never ending argument. -
There is no contradiction @vibe you just don't understand what you don't understand. There are lots of laws of logic to ? 's existence. Your criticism is childlike.
And theologians have dispelled your criticisms centuries ago. And you want to know what ? cannot do ??? I will tell you, ? cannot create contradictions. -
All powerful means ? can do all that can be done
All knowing means he knows all that can be known
The problem with humanity is that we do not know fully what can and cannot be done. Or fully know what cannot be known -
He can't do all that can be done if he cannot create a contridiction.
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He can't do all that can be done if he cannot create a contridiction.
You really are just trolling. A square circle cannot exist because a square cannot be a circle. The existence of the square as a square eliminates the existence of it being a circle.
You are making the logical fallacy known as the argument from absurdity -
Interesting. Was watching a Dr. Phil Valentine video, and he basically broke down Eve's role in the bible as the physical manifestation of ? , and Adam being the spiritual manifestation. When Adam got lonely, ? figured no one can take that place of Adam's partner on Earth than ? him/her/it/whateverthefuck's self. Adam and Eve were the physical representations of ? on Earth... everything else already existed before them. This is of course, according to Valentine. We exist in a matrix, which literally means ? . When Jesus says "I am in the Father, and the Father in me", that's what he meant. That's why they call it Mother Earth, and people refer to land masses as a female. Our physical manifestations exist on this land mass, as a baby exists in a ? . But everything that was and ever will be exists in us, because we are a matrix in and of ourselves.
So ? had sex with and impregnated himself?
No... he impregnated the world when he came thru your speakers
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not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions. -
Swiffness! wrote: »Malcolm Xtra wrote: »? cant be a Man or a Woman...its impossible
How can u take something from everything? Where would u put it? How can u make everything (the all) something limited like a man or a woman?
And for my Jesus folks.....why would ? need to know what it was like to walk amongst humans? Shouldnt ? already know what its like because ? is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient...? Knows all
? cannot know all.
? cannot die, can he? If not, then he cannot know what it's like.
Or
? cannot know what he doesn't know.If there is multiple universes, which the science shows there can be, then each Universe has its own set of gods, and possibly "one true ? ", and that ? doesn't know what exists outside his own universe being that time and space doesn't immediately exist outside that universe for him to know.
Trains of thought like this amuse me because they show how we as human beings can't even really begin to wrap our minds around the concept of things like ALL powerful or ALL knowing or infinity. "Can ? make something so heavy that ? can't pick it up?" Yes, and then He picks it up anyway. Lol.
Look at how ? is depicted when he's an active character in movies and TV, like in Supernatural or Spawn or Sandman or Kevin Smith's Dogma. They have to put all sorts of limits on ? 's power in order for the story to make any sense.
It was actually an atheist that explained to me that being Omnipotent means you can exist and not exist at the same time. ? blew my mind back then. Whoa!
Omniscient. That means knowing everything going through your mind AND not going through your mind. Everything you've ever experienced, remembered, and forgotten. He knows what its like to die because he knows the thoughts of every single human being (and alien lol...) ever as they die. "The Kingdom of ? is within you"
And that's just on this particular ball of mud called "Earth" - one little planet in one little galaxy in one little universe filled with trillions n trillions of galaxies containing billions of stars and planets each.
And there are infinite universes/realities, of course. Every possibility and impossibility and ?????????? is "real" in its own reality somewhere. Every piece of fiction is a small window to one of 'em. Every dream you have is you taking a quick stroll in one of 'em. Every lie ever told is the truth in one of 'em.
Try not to think too hard about it lol. One of the logical conclusions you could draw from this philosophy is "the truth doesn't matter and everything is meaningless" after all.
Crazy ? lol.
Dogma is my ? . To me, that was one of the best representations of ? ... an entity in its own world while its creations fight over nothing just to get to its level. Mufucka took a sabbatical just to play skeeball. Now if that ain't some godly ? , I don't know what is.
Cosign this post. Everything has an element of truth somewhere. The problem with humans in particular is that we tend to call something out for its fallacies without acknowledging our own truths. ? , at least the writers of these stories have some esoteric education or some foundation to stand on. All we have is a bible and some he said she said theories. So if we're right and everyone else is wrong, what's the debate about? The only indisputable proof that we have of ? 's existence is our own lives... everything else is just a warped explanation that would throw us in the same loop of the people that made it. -
not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions.
How so? -
not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions.
How so?
The descriptions of the gods preclude them from actually being ? .
some of These so called gods are given life and death cycles. They are born and can be hurt. -
not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions.
How so?
The descriptions of the gods preclude them from actually being ? .
some of These so called gods are given life and death cycles. They are born and can be hurt.
Jesus is the Bible ? right? Wasn't he born and hurt? He got beat up, stabbed with spears, died and his followers claim he came back to life, just like plenty of other gods before him. Way before him. Not much different a storyline compared to others, several Hindu and African gods have followers who claim they died and came back too. -
not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Exactly, there are many gods people have worshipped historically. I sometimes want to laugh when people say there is only one ? , like mufucka how do you know lol, in Hinduism alone there are what, 100 different gods. Some native African religions have probably even more then that, different sexes and everything -
kingblaze84 wrote: »not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions.
How so?
The descriptions of the gods preclude them from actually being ? .
some of These so called gods are given life and death cycles. They are born and can be hurt.
Jesus is the Bible ? right? Wasn't he born and hurt? He died and his followers claim he came back to life, just like plenty of other gods before him. Not much different a storyline compared to others, several Hindu gods have followers who claim they died and came back too.
Jesus was man and ? . The stories I had in mind refer to gods that were born from other gods in there totality.
So in other words Jesus as the word of ? existed before creation,before his arrival as a physical man on earth. When we say Jesus we say the word of ? on earth but the word of ? existed before the earth
The gods of the Greeks for example are born from other so called gods.
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kingblaze84 wrote: »not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions.
How so?
The descriptions of the gods preclude them from actually being ? .
some of These so called gods are given life and death cycles. They are born and can be hurt.
Jesus is the Bible ? right? Wasn't he born and hurt? He died and his followers claim he came back to life, just like plenty of other gods before him. Not much different a storyline compared to others, several Hindu gods have followers who claim they died and came back too.
Jesus was man and ? . The stories I had in mind refer to gods that were born from other gods in there totality.
So in other words Jesus as the word of ? existed before creation,before his arrival as a physical man on earth. When we say Jesus we say the word of ? on earth but the word of ? existed before the earth
The gods of the Greeks for example are born from other so called gods.
Ok but understand that's not a unique story either. Believe what you want but other gods claim to have ruled from heaven and came back down to Earth just to spread a message that needed to be spread at the time.
Zeus claims to be the ? of all gods too. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »kingblaze84 wrote: »not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions.
How so?
The descriptions of the gods preclude them from actually being ? .
some of These so called gods are given life and death cycles. They are born and can be hurt.
Jesus is the Bible ? right? Wasn't he born and hurt? He died and his followers claim he came back to life, just like plenty of other gods before him. Not much different a storyline compared to others, several Hindu gods have followers who claim they died and came back too.
Jesus was man and ? . The stories I had in mind refer to gods that were born from other gods in there totality.
So in other words Jesus as the word of ? existed before creation,before his arrival as a physical man on earth. When we say Jesus we say the word of ? on earth but the word of ? existed before the earth
The gods of the Greeks for example are born from other so called gods.
Ok but understand that's not a unique story either. Believe what you want but other gods claim to have ruled from heaven and came back down to Earth just to spread a message that needed to be spread at the time.
Zeus claims to be the ? of all gods too.
Zeus had a father and mother that birthed him as a "? ". If you want to talk about the story of Jesus and it's similarities to other older stories then we can do that but that's a whole other topic -
kingblaze84 wrote: »kingblaze84 wrote: »not trolling at all..
Throughout history, there has been multiple gods. Each ? has a certain duty, now, all those separate duties are combined into an "all in one" ? .
? is simply a collection of every other ? that existed before him.
In reality, there is more than one ? .
In the Christian religion, there is one ? .
Your bible, beliefs and religion do not dictate what is actual, it only dictates what you personally believe.
Most of the so called "gods" mankind worshiped in the past can be proven not to exist by there descriptions.
How so?
The descriptions of the gods preclude them from actually being ? .
some of These so called gods are given life and death cycles. They are born and can be hurt.
Jesus is the Bible ? right? Wasn't he born and hurt? He died and his followers claim he came back to life, just like plenty of other gods before him. Not much different a storyline compared to others, several Hindu gods have followers who claim they died and came back too.
Jesus was man and ? . The stories I had in mind refer to gods that were born from other gods in there totality.
So in other words Jesus as the word of ? existed before creation,before his arrival as a physical man on earth. When we say Jesus we say the word of ? on earth but the word of ? existed before the earth
The gods of the Greeks for example are born from other so called gods.
Ok but understand that's not a unique story either. Believe what you want but other gods claim to have ruled from heaven and came back down to Earth just to spread a message that needed to be spread at the time.
Zeus claims to be the ? of all gods too.
Zeus had a father and mother that birthed him as a "? ". If you want to talk about the story of Jesus and it's similarities to other older stories then we can do that but that's a whole other topic
Yeah the story of Jesus is very similar to older ? stories, that's for sure.
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Pantheists seem to be the least backwards as far as deity worshippers go
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Pantheists seem to be the least backwards as far as deity worshippers go
I think one can be a pantheist and not necessarily "worship" whatever is possibly out there. I have some pantheist views but I'm far from religious, spiritual to a degree -
? created Man and Woman. Consequently since '? ' created a 'Man' and a 'Woman' ? cannot be a combination of a 'Man' and a 'Woman'. The creator cannot be the total sum of it's creation.
According to Black Roots Science when ? incarnates on Earth '? ' splits into a Man and Woman takes the darkness of space as his/her skin. Black Roots Science probably uses the terms he/she and Man and Woman in a general sense because the bible and all of the rest of the holy text out there says that ? created the Man and the Woman in his image. But like I said when a person creates something -the thing that was created is not the whole of it's creator. ? predates the creation of a Man and a Woman. ? is beyond way beyond the physical limitations of a Man and a Woman. When we are born we are thought by our Parents, Guardians, the Government and Society how to be. They don't just teach us how to act they teach us how to be. On this Earth and in this body of a so called "Man and a Woman' it feels like a hard prison but maybe it's only a soft prison since according to Black Roots Science the Black 'so called' Man and Woman is '? ' and if this is true then we are in reality only acting/pretending to be a so called 'Man and Woman' since '? ' predates all things that was created. So we are only being a so called 'Man and Woman' because that is what we are taught to be by society. If we are ? then conversely we are being something we are not. ? is unimaginable and will never be reach if we continue to BE in this form of something '? ' created the imperfect so called 'Man and Woman'
? is neither a Man or a woman. ? is not a combination of a Man and a Woman. A Man and a Woman is something that was created. All things that was created had a beginning. So since '? ' has no beginning and no end '? ' is not a Man nor a Woman and '? ' is not a combination of a Man and a Woman.
higher powers too me is a entity that is neither man or woman, i feel like yeah, its a abstract concept that human beings do not have the capacity too overstand, its deep, thats the way i see it anyways
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