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  • manofmorehouse
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    janklow wrote: »
    what's funny to me is this is literally the exact argument republicans make when it comes to guns in the U.S. "If you increase gun control, it'll only make getting weapons easier for the Black market".
    this is not the exact argument they make; leaving aside the constitutional issue, it's that increasing gun control punishes the law-abiding and helps the black market.

    ps. it's not just Republicans ? about the deal.

    Is it not the right of a country that is independent of others to protect itself?? That's the argument made by republicans. That's the argument made by iran. Israel wants the benefit of protecting itself with nukes but doesn't want it's middle east neighbors to have them?? Like it or not, iran was going to get weapons anyway. All yall gun lovers should be rejoicing. This is exactly what yall preach. This is exactly what the NRA preaches. Now yall shook when other people feel the need to "protect and defend" themselves??
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    North Korea has nuclear technology too.....but they're not crazy enough to use it. Iran isn't either, assuming they are building a weapon.

    north korea does not have the missile technology to attack anywhere too far they can attack south korea and maybe some parts of japan and that's it and despite being evil as ? they are still rational to a certain extent

    Iran however might not be because it's a islamic theocracy.

    Iran doesn't have the missile technology either, and their theocracy is not as bad as some other Muslim nations. Pakistan was caught red handed helping out Osama Bin Laden, and guess what?? Their military has nuclear capabilities too. You should be more worried about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia if anything, both of those nations have people and govt officials who are supporting Al-Qaeda and other Sunni terror groups on the low and blatantly. You know damn well the 9/11 report was blacked out because of the Saudis.

    Iran is one of the FEW nations in the Middle East fighting the extremist Sunni groups who are spreading terror all over the region. And Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake when it comes to spreading and encouraging Sunni terror, worry about them instead of Iran. Israel has a better chance of doing something reckless and evil then Iran does.
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    North Korea has nuclear technology too.....but they're not crazy enough to use it. Iran isn't either, assuming they are building a weapon.

    north korea does not have the missile technology to attack anywhere too far they can attack south korea and maybe some parts of japan and that's it and despite being evil as ? they are still rational to a certain extent

    Iran however might not be because it's a islamic theocracy.

    Iran doesn't have the missile technology either, and their theocracy is not as bad as some other Muslim nations. Pakistan was caught red handed helping out Osama Bin Laden, and guess what?? Their military has nuclear capabilities too. You should be more worried about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia if anything, both of those nations have people and govt officials who are supporting Al-Qaeda and other Sunni terror groups on the low and blatantly. You know damn well the 9/11 report was blacked out because of the Saudis.

    Iran is one of the FEW nations in the Middle East fighting the extremist Sunni groups who are spreading terror all over the region. And Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake when it comes to spreading and encouraging Sunni terror, worry about them instead of Iran. Israel has a better chance of doing something reckless and evil then Iran does.

    I worry about all those ? but no matter what you say the spread of nuclear weapons capability can never be a good thing.
  • zzombie
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    IRAN IS FIGHTING terrorism but they are also terrorist so what does that benefit us??? a stronger more capable enemy is not good it would be much better to have smaller crazy terrorist groups than have a real organized state with nuclear weapons the anti- americanism and anti-israel sentiment on this issue makes no ? sense.
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    North Korea has nuclear technology too.....but they're not crazy enough to use it. Iran isn't either, assuming they are building a weapon.

    north korea does not have the missile technology to attack anywhere too far they can attack south korea and maybe some parts of japan and that's it and despite being evil as ? they are still rational to a certain extent

    Iran however might not be because it's a islamic theocracy.

    Iran doesn't have the missile technology either, and their theocracy is not as bad as some other Muslim nations. Pakistan was caught red handed helping out Osama Bin Laden, and guess what?? Their military has nuclear capabilities too. You should be more worried about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia if anything, both of those nations have people and govt officials who are supporting Al-Qaeda and other Sunni terror groups on the low and blatantly. You know damn well the 9/11 report was blacked out because of the Saudis.

    Iran is one of the FEW nations in the Middle East fighting the extremist Sunni groups who are spreading terror all over the region. And Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake when it comes to spreading and encouraging Sunni terror, worry about them instead of Iran. Israel has a better chance of doing something reckless and evil then Iran does.

    I worry about all those ? but no matter what you say the spread of nuclear weapons capability can never be a good thing.

    Iran is gonna build its nuclear capabilities no matter what, they have underground bunkers that realistically are too deep to be destroyed. With Isra-hell filled with nuclear weapons, it's only fair that Iran counters the terrorist, parasite nation that isn't too far from it. The world's biggest powers are NOT as scared as you are, that's very telling. If North Korea can be contained, so can Iran. You worry too much.
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    IRAN IS FIGHTING terrorism but they are also terrorist so what does that benefit us??? a stronger more capable enemy is not good it would be much better to have smaller crazy terrorist groups than have a real organized state with nuclear weapons the anti- americanism and anti-israel sentiment on this issue makes no ? sense.

    If Iran is a terrorist nation, what does that make America and Israel LOL..........

    America and Israel have much bloodier and gory hands then Iran has. As long as America continues its crimes against humanity worldwide, Iran and others will look at America as an enemy. Remember what America and its crooked allies did in Iran in the 1950s.

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-united-states-responsible-for-the-rise-in-anti-american-sentiment-terrorism-in-the-middle-east

    Is the United States responsible for the rise in anti-American sentiment (terrorism) in the Middle East?
    67% Say Yes

    33% Say No


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  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    IRAN IS FIGHTING terrorism but they are also terrorist so what does that benefit us??? a stronger more capable enemy is not good it would be much better to have smaller crazy terrorist groups than have a real organized state with nuclear weapons the anti- americanism and anti-israel sentiment on this issue makes no ? sense.

    If Iran is a terrorist nation, what does that make America and Israel LOL..........

    America and Israel have much bloodier and gory hands then Iran has. As long as America continues its crimes against humanity worldwide, Iran and others will look at America as an enemy. Remember what America and its crooked allies did in Iran in the 1950s.

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-united-states-responsible-for-the-rise-in-anti-american-sentiment-terrorism-in-the-middle-east

    Is the United States responsible for the rise in anti-American sentiment (terrorism) in the Middle East?
    67% Say Yes

    33% Say No


    [img]https://ronabbass.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/american-israel-? -hands.jpg?w=640[/img]

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    A poll like that only about feelings not facts. America is only protecting it's allies. Israel is our ally.
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    North Korea has nuclear technology too.....but they're not crazy enough to use it. Iran isn't either, assuming they are building a weapon.

    north korea does not have the missile technology to attack anywhere too far they can attack south korea and maybe some parts of japan and that's it and despite being evil as ? they are still rational to a certain extent

    Iran however might not be because it's a islamic theocracy.

    Iran doesn't have the missile technology either, and their theocracy is not as bad as some other Muslim nations. Pakistan was caught red handed helping out Osama Bin Laden, and guess what?? Their military has nuclear capabilities too. You should be more worried about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia if anything, both of those nations have people and govt officials who are supporting Al-Qaeda and other Sunni terror groups on the low and blatantly. You know damn well the 9/11 report was blacked out because of the Saudis.

    Iran is one of the FEW nations in the Middle East fighting the extremist Sunni groups who are spreading terror all over the region. And Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake when it comes to spreading and encouraging Sunni terror, worry about them instead of Iran. Israel has a better chance of doing something reckless and evil then Iran does.

    I worry about all those ? but no matter what you say the spread of nuclear weapons capability can never be a good thing.

    Iran is gonna build its nuclear capabilities no matter what, they have underground bunkers that realistically are too deep to be destroyed. With Isra-hell filled with nuclear weapons, it's only fair that Iran counters the terrorist, parasite nation that isn't too far from it. The world's biggest powers are NOT as scared as you are, that's very telling. If North Korea can be contained, so can Iran. You worry too much.

    Iran cannot be contained this will eventually lead to disaster. Israel has the right to exist and survive and should defend itself at all costs this stupid decision from this weak president is putting future generations at risk. And will lead to a major ? war

    We can only hope that the other branches of government shut this ? down and that this fool Obama doesn't do something else stupid
  • The_Jackal
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    The deal is just fine, what's the alternative, another round of sanctions the world mostly doesn't want?

    Iran has almost a trillion dollars worth of oil, maybe more, the world needs that oil and they told America to make a deal. Obama made the right choice, there is no evidence Iran is making a nuclear weapon anyway. I support the deal, let Israel and Republicans whine and scream all day about it.

    Iran isn't a threat to America, they hate America's govt but so does most of the Middle East and Russia.

    We go disregard them sponsoring terrorist though. I agree with the deal but dont say they aren't a threat.

  • kingblaze84
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    The deal is just fine, what's the alternative, another round of sanctions the world mostly doesn't want?

    Iran has almost a trillion dollars worth of oil, maybe more, the world needs that oil and they told America to make a deal. Obama made the right choice, there is no evidence Iran is making a nuclear weapon anyway. I support the deal, let Israel and Republicans whine and scream all day about it.

    Iran isn't a threat to America, they hate America's govt but so does most of the Middle East and Russia.

    We go disregard them sponsoring terrorist though. I agree with the deal but dont say they aren't a threat.

    You're right, Iran has a respectable military and weapons. Specifically, I don't think the average American has to worry about them, unless America acts aggressive toward it some more. Iran sponsors terror groups worldwide? Okay I guess, but America has done the same directly and indirectly, on a bigger level.

    Look what America is helping the Saudi Arabians do, Saudi Arabia is blowing up hospitals and schools in Yemen right now as we speak, with American help. I can go on and on.
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    IRAN IS FIGHTING terrorism but they are also terrorist so what does that benefit us??? a stronger more capable enemy is not good it would be much better to have smaller crazy terrorist groups than have a real organized state with nuclear weapons the anti- americanism and anti-israel sentiment on this issue makes no ? sense.

    If Iran is a terrorist nation, what does that make America and Israel LOL..........

    America and Israel have much bloodier and gory hands then Iran has. As long as America continues its crimes against humanity worldwide, Iran and others will look at America as an enemy. Remember what America and its crooked allies did in Iran in the 1950s.

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-united-states-responsible-for-the-rise-in-anti-american-sentiment-terrorism-in-the-middle-east

    Is the United States responsible for the rise in anti-American sentiment (terrorism) in the Middle East?
    67% Say Yes

    33% Say No


    [img]https://ronabbass.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/american-israel-? -hands.jpg?w=640[/img]

    250824_433404816699729_1891331679_n.jpg

    A poll like that only about feelings not facts. America is only protecting it's allies. Israel is our ally.

    America has a growing amount of enemies around the world, don't be quick to dismiss that poll. Keeping Israel as an ally and helping them steal land and blow up preschools does no favors over there. America creating all these refugees worldwide does not help America's reputation in Iran either.
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    North Korea has nuclear technology too.....but they're not crazy enough to use it. Iran isn't either, assuming they are building a weapon.

    north korea does not have the missile technology to attack anywhere too far they can attack south korea and maybe some parts of japan and that's it and despite being evil as ? they are still rational to a certain extent

    Iran however might not be because it's a islamic theocracy.

    Iran doesn't have the missile technology either, and their theocracy is not as bad as some other Muslim nations. Pakistan was caught red handed helping out Osama Bin Laden, and guess what?? Their military has nuclear capabilities too. You should be more worried about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia if anything, both of those nations have people and govt officials who are supporting Al-Qaeda and other Sunni terror groups on the low and blatantly. You know damn well the 9/11 report was blacked out because of the Saudis.

    Iran is one of the FEW nations in the Middle East fighting the extremist Sunni groups who are spreading terror all over the region. And Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake when it comes to spreading and encouraging Sunni terror, worry about them instead of Iran. Israel has a better chance of doing something reckless and evil then Iran does.

    I worry about all those ? but no matter what you say the spread of nuclear weapons capability can never be a good thing.

    Iran is gonna build its nuclear capabilities no matter what, they have underground bunkers that realistically are too deep to be destroyed. With Isra-hell filled with nuclear weapons, it's only fair that Iran counters the terrorist, parasite nation that isn't too far from it. The world's biggest powers are NOT as scared as you are, that's very telling. If North Korea can be contained, so can Iran. You worry too much.

    Iran cannot be contained this will eventually lead to disaster. Israel has the right to exist and survive and should defend itself at all costs this stupid decision from this weak president is putting future generations at risk. And will lead to a major ? war

    We can only hope that the other branches of government shut this ? down and that this fool Obama doesn't do something else stupid

    How will this deal lead to a major war? Who would start this war?
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    IRAN IS FIGHTING terrorism but they are also terrorist so what does that benefit us??? a stronger more capable enemy is not good it would be much better to have smaller crazy terrorist groups than have a real organized state with nuclear weapons the anti- americanism and anti-israel sentiment on this issue makes no ? sense.

    If Iran is a terrorist nation, what does that make America and Israel LOL..........

    America and Israel have much bloodier and gory hands then Iran has. As long as America continues its crimes against humanity worldwide, Iran and others will look at America as an enemy. Remember what America and its crooked allies did in Iran in the 1950s.

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-united-states-responsible-for-the-rise-in-anti-american-sentiment-terrorism-in-the-middle-east

    Is the United States responsible for the rise in anti-American sentiment (terrorism) in the Middle East?
    67% Say Yes

    33% Say No


    [img]https://ronabbass.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/american-israel-? -hands.jpg?w=640[/img]

    250824_433404816699729_1891331679_n.jpg

    A poll like that only about feelings not facts. America is only protecting it's allies. Israel is our ally.

    America has a growing amount of enemies around the world, don't be quick to dismiss that poll. Keeping Israel as an ally and helping them steal land and blow up preschools does no favors over there. America creating all these refugees worldwide does not help America's reputation in Iran either.

    There is nothing we can do about that we won't gain any" friends" over there it's too late for that. But we can lose the few allies we do have if we abandon them. In every thread you run your mouth about America being unliked but sometimes like Floyd mayweather you have to embrace the image given to you.

    And THE reality is the American association with Israel is the only thing holding Israel back.

    And I disagree with us having "growing" enemies these ? were always enemies.
  • zzombie
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    Our enemies should be glad we support Israel the minute we don't and Israel feel abandoned and attacked it will be massive war and going by their track record Israel will win and this time they won't voluntarily give land back
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    IRAN IS FIGHTING terrorism but they are also terrorist so what does that benefit us??? a stronger more capable enemy is not good it would be much better to have smaller crazy terrorist groups than have a real organized state with nuclear weapons the anti- americanism and anti-israel sentiment on this issue makes no ? sense.

    If Iran is a terrorist nation, what does that make America and Israel LOL..........

    America and Israel have much bloodier and gory hands then Iran has. As long as America continues its crimes against humanity worldwide, Iran and others will look at America as an enemy. Remember what America and its crooked allies did in Iran in the 1950s.

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-united-states-responsible-for-the-rise-in-anti-american-sentiment-terrorism-in-the-middle-east

    Is the United States responsible for the rise in anti-American sentiment (terrorism) in the Middle East?
    67% Say Yes

    33% Say No


    [img]https://ronabbass.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/american-israel-? -hands.jpg?w=640[/img]

    250824_433404816699729_1891331679_n.jpg

    A poll like that only about feelings not facts. America is only protecting it's allies. Israel is our ally.

    America has a growing amount of enemies around the world, don't be quick to dismiss that poll. Keeping Israel as an ally and helping them steal land and blow up preschools does no favors over there. America creating all these refugees worldwide does not help America's reputation in Iran either.

    There is nothing we can do about that we won't gain any" friends" over there it's too late for that. But we can lose the few allies we do have if we abandon them. In every thread you run your mouth about America being unliked but sometimes like Floyd mayweather you have to embrace the image given to you.

    And THE reality is the American association with Israel is the only thing holding Israel back.

    And I disagree with us having "growing" enemies these ? were always enemies.

    You can't be serious, Israel is one of the top 3 hated nations in the world, most of the world, INCLUDING Arab nations, would rejoice if America cuts ties with Israel's current govt. Or at a minimum, stop being protective of them, Obama talks a good game but his administration has given Israel plenty of weapons after its terrorism against its neighbors.

    And no the region was not always enemies with America and the west. Do some research, many nations in the Middle East had good relations with America until Israel was created and close to a million refugees were created. And also, America's reputation was harmed after what happened to Iran's democratically elected govt and all kinds of other ? America did in the region. You seriously need to read more history books.
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Our enemies should be glad we support Israel the minute we don't and Israel feel abandoned and attacked it will be massive war and going by their track record Israel will win and this time they won't voluntarily give land back

    Thanks for admitting Israel is a nation of warmongers. If Israel feels abandoned and goes crazy, then other nations will put them down too. America doesn't need to be involved in this BS.
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    Our enemies should be glad we support Israel the minute we don't and Israel feel abandoned and attacked it will be massive war and going by their track record Israel will win and this time they won't voluntarily give land back

    Thanks for admitting Israel is a nation of warmongers. If Israel feels abandoned and goes crazy, then other nations will put them down too. America doesn't need to be involved in this BS.

    WHO IS GOING TO PUT ISRAEL BACK DOWN ???? WHO IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT??? THE LAST TIME ISRAEL WENT TO WAR IN WIPED THE FLOOR WITH THE ARAB NATIONS and that was back when the the arabs had backing from the ussr.

    If israel was a nation of warmongers they would have kept the land they won israel just wants to live in peace and safety.
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    IRAN IS FIGHTING terrorism but they are also terrorist so what does that benefit us??? a stronger more capable enemy is not good it would be much better to have smaller crazy terrorist groups than have a real organized state with nuclear weapons the anti- americanism and anti-israel sentiment on this issue makes no ? sense.

    If Iran is a terrorist nation, what does that make America and Israel LOL..........

    America and Israel have much bloodier and gory hands then Iran has. As long as America continues its crimes against humanity worldwide, Iran and others will look at America as an enemy. Remember what America and its crooked allies did in Iran in the 1950s.

    http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-united-states-responsible-for-the-rise-in-anti-american-sentiment-terrorism-in-the-middle-east

    Is the United States responsible for the rise in anti-American sentiment (terrorism) in the Middle East?
    67% Say Yes

    33% Say No


    [img]https://ronabbass.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/american-israel-? -hands.jpg?w=640[/img]

    250824_433404816699729_1891331679_n.jpg

    A poll like that only about feelings not facts. America is only protecting it's allies. Israel is our ally.

    America has a growing amount of enemies around the world, don't be quick to dismiss that poll. Keeping Israel as an ally and helping them steal land and blow up preschools does no favors over there. America creating all these refugees worldwide does not help America's reputation in Iran either.

    There is nothing we can do about that we won't gain any" friends" over there it's too late for that. But we can lose the few allies we do have if we abandon them. In every thread you run your mouth about America being unliked but sometimes like Floyd mayweather you have to embrace the image given to you.

    And THE reality is the American association with Israel is the only thing holding Israel back.

    And I disagree with us having "growing" enemies these ? were always enemies.

    You can't be serious, Israel is one of the top 3 hated nations in the world, most of the world, INCLUDING Arab nations, would rejoice if America cuts ties with Israel's current govt. Or at a minimum, stop being protective of them, Obama talks a good game but his administration has given Israel plenty of weapons after its terrorism against its neighbors.

    And no the region was not always enemies with America and the west. Do some research, many nations in the Middle East had good relations with America until Israel was created and close to a million refugees were created. And also, America's reputation was harmed after what happened to Iran's democratically elected govt and all kinds of other ? America did in the region. You seriously need to read more history books.

    well it's too bad for them israel was created and there is nothing they can do about it, the arabs fought wars and lost every single one of them. The neighbors of israel can either learn to live in peace with israel or stop existing.

    I stand by what i say we were always their enemy going back to the days when the otttoman empire was in alliance with germany in ww1 and even further back to the battle of derne and the first barbary war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War and some of these nations you claim we had good relations with were allies of the soviet union our greatest enemy so i don't know what historical good relations you are talking about

    The islamic world has a history of being in enmity with america, america did ? in support of israel and to ensure that we won the cold war in against the ussr.
  • zzombie
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    North Korea has nuclear technology too.....but they're not crazy enough to use it. Iran isn't either, assuming they are building a weapon.

    north korea does not have the missile technology to attack anywhere too far they can attack south korea and maybe some parts of japan and that's it and despite being evil as ? they are still rational to a certain extent

    Iran however might not be because it's a islamic theocracy.

    Iran doesn't have the missile technology either, and their theocracy is not as bad as some other Muslim nations. Pakistan was caught red handed helping out Osama Bin Laden, and guess what?? Their military has nuclear capabilities too. You should be more worried about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia if anything, both of those nations have people and govt officials who are supporting Al-Qaeda and other Sunni terror groups on the low and blatantly. You know damn well the 9/11 report was blacked out because of the Saudis.

    Iran is one of the FEW nations in the Middle East fighting the extremist Sunni groups who are spreading terror all over the region. And Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake when it comes to spreading and encouraging Sunni terror, worry about them instead of Iran. Israel has a better chance of doing something reckless and evil then Iran does.

    I worry about all those ? but no matter what you say the spread of nuclear weapons capability can never be a good thing.

    Iran is gonna build its nuclear capabilities no matter what, they have underground bunkers that realistically are too deep to be destroyed. With Isra-hell filled with nuclear weapons, it's only fair that Iran counters the terrorist, parasite nation that isn't too far from it. The world's biggest powers are NOT as scared as you are, that's very telling. If North Korea can be contained, so can Iran. You worry too much.

    Iran cannot be contained this will eventually lead to disaster. Israel has the right to exist and survive and should defend itself at all costs this stupid decision from this weak president is putting future generations at risk. And will lead to a major ? war

    We can only hope that the other branches of government shut this ? down and that this fool Obama doesn't do something else stupid

    How will this deal lead to a major war? Who would start this war?

    Iran or any of the enemies of israel
  • MrSoutCity
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    zzombie wrote: »
    According to American generals themselves, Russia is the biggest threat to America anyway. If we can live with a nuclear Russia, we can live with a possible nuclear Iran.

    until they bomb israel and the world goes into total chaos.

    Shut the ? up with this Israel ?
  • zzombie
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    MrSoutCity wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    According to American generals themselves, Russia is the biggest threat to America anyway. If we can live with a nuclear Russia, we can live with a possible nuclear Iran.

    until they bomb israel and the world goes into total chaos.

    Shut the ? up with this Israel ?

    NO. ? you.
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    Our enemies should be glad we support Israel the minute we don't and Israel feel abandoned and attacked it will be massive war and going by their track record Israel will win and this time they won't voluntarily give land back

    Thanks for admitting Israel is a nation of warmongers. If Israel feels abandoned and goes crazy, then other nations will put them down too. America doesn't need to be involved in this BS.

    WHO IS GOING TO PUT ISRAEL BACK DOWN ???? WHO IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT??? THE LAST TIME ISRAEL WENT TO WAR IN WIPED THE FLOOR WITH THE ARAB NATIONS and that was back when the the arabs had backing from the ussr.

    If israel was a nation of warmongers they would have kept the land they won israel just wants to live in peace and safety.

    Richard Nixon saved Israel in 1973 during the Yom Kippur war, but Israel did win in the 60s and 40s. And I already said Russia and China would get involved if oil supplies start getting messed up, if Israel ? things up.

    And Israel doesn't want to live in peace, ask the United Nations. You whine about the UN but in reality, it's a consensus of world opinion.
  • kingblaze84
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    zzombie wrote: »
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    North Korea has nuclear technology too.....but they're not crazy enough to use it. Iran isn't either, assuming they are building a weapon.

    north korea does not have the missile technology to attack anywhere too far they can attack south korea and maybe some parts of japan and that's it and despite being evil as ? they are still rational to a certain extent

    Iran however might not be because it's a islamic theocracy.

    Iran doesn't have the missile technology either, and their theocracy is not as bad as some other Muslim nations. Pakistan was caught red handed helping out Osama Bin Laden, and guess what?? Their military has nuclear capabilities too. You should be more worried about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia if anything, both of those nations have people and govt officials who are supporting Al-Qaeda and other Sunni terror groups on the low and blatantly. You know damn well the 9/11 report was blacked out because of the Saudis.

    Iran is one of the FEW nations in the Middle East fighting the extremist Sunni groups who are spreading terror all over the region. And Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake when it comes to spreading and encouraging Sunni terror, worry about them instead of Iran. Israel has a better chance of doing something reckless and evil then Iran does.

    I worry about all those ? but no matter what you say the spread of nuclear weapons capability can never be a good thing.

    Iran is gonna build its nuclear capabilities no matter what, they have underground bunkers that realistically are too deep to be destroyed. With Isra-hell filled with nuclear weapons, it's only fair that Iran counters the terrorist, parasite nation that isn't too far from it. The world's biggest powers are NOT as scared as you are, that's very telling. If North Korea can be contained, so can Iran. You worry too much.

    Iran cannot be contained this will eventually lead to disaster. Israel has the right to exist and survive and should defend itself at all costs this stupid decision from this weak president is putting future generations at risk. And will lead to a major ? war

    We can only hope that the other branches of government shut this ? down and that this fool Obama doesn't do something else stupid

    How will this deal lead to a major war? Who would start this war?

    Iran or any of the enemies of israel

    I doubt it, Israel is the one saying they still have military options on the table and won't be bound to the agreement, despite most of the world supporting the deal.
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    MrSoutCity wrote: »
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    According to American generals themselves, Russia is the biggest threat to America anyway. If we can live with a nuclear Russia, we can live with a possible nuclear Iran.

    until they bomb israel and the world goes into total chaos.

    Shut the ? up with this Israel ?

    Zombie is the most paranoid person I've ever seen on the IC. He's scared of the wrong countries.....
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    Our enemies should be glad we support Israel the minute we don't and Israel feel abandoned and attacked it will be massive war and going by their track record Israel will win and this time they won't voluntarily give land back

    Thanks for admitting Israel is a nation of warmongers. If Israel feels abandoned and goes crazy, then other nations will put them down too. America doesn't need to be involved in this BS.

    WHO IS GOING TO PUT ISRAEL BACK DOWN ???? WHO IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT??? THE LAST TIME ISRAEL WENT TO WAR IN WIPED THE FLOOR WITH THE ARAB NATIONS and that was back when the the arabs had backing from the ussr.

    If israel was a nation of warmongers they would have kept the land they won israel just wants to live in peace and safety.

    Richard Nixon saved Israel in 1973 during the Yom Kippur war, but Israel did win in the 60s and 40s. And I already said Russia and China would get involved if oil supplies start getting messed up, if Israel ? things up.

    And Israel doesn't want to live in peace, ask the United Nations. You whine about the UN but in reality, it's a consensus of world opinion.

    Why would russia get involved??? russia is an oil producing nation in fact gas production is the only thing holding up there weak economy. if the oil supply gets ? with it mean an increase in price so russia would stand to benefit.

    China is a paper tiger and they do not possess the capability to project force outside of their region they have no bases in the middle east no good air craft carriers to move armies and supplies and there huge army is actually weak because most of there training is just political indoctrination.