GnS Politics 2016: Death Penalty

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LPast
LPast Members Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 2015 in For The Grown & Sexy
For it, or against it?

Keep in mind, this poll is for criminals we know 100% are guilty of their crimes. If there is any doubt, death penalty is not possible.

GnS Politics 2016: Death Penalty 39 votes

For Death Penalty (Courts/Jurors Decision)
30%
yellowtapesportDetroitPlayaaqawshunbabelipssskingblaze84CapitalBThe Lonious MonkLike WaterMister B.Igot5onitonetoughmiracleTayGettem 12 votes
For Death Penalty (Victims family's decision)
25%
dwade206vagrant-718illestni99ainneriddlerapVulcanRavenElzo69RenaissanceTrillfateMARIO_DROzzombieMadeofsteel 10 votes
Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
43%
KaiwillhustlejonoJusDre313obnoxiouslyfreshmryounggunArya TsaddiqShuffingtoniron man1LPastdesertrain10_Goldie_atribecalledgabiDR. JEKLUClENDelphasPaprika 17 votes
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  • Busta Carmichael
    Busta Carmichael Members, Moderators Posts: 13,161 Regulator
    edited November 2015
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    Nah that's a quick death. Torture would be more like it.

    Jared for example should be Fleece Johnsonned to death nh
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  • playmaker88
    playmaker88 Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Some people deserve horrible deaths.

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  • MsSouthern
    MsSouthern Members, Moderators Posts: 21,791 Regulator
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    For it


    Not quite sure if the victim's family should make the decision .... Way too many emotions involved
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  • mryounggun
    mryounggun Members Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2015
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    This one is pretty black and white for me. Death penalty should be abolished. There are no situations in which state-sanctioned murder is cool, in my opinion.
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  • Brother_Five
    Brother_Five Members Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    using the caveat that we know the persons guilt 100% skews things... also it depends on the crime.
    I think it should be off the table for most situations.
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  • LPast
    LPast Members Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Brother_Five wrote: »
    using the caveat that we know the persons guilt 100% skews things... also it depends on the crime.
    I think it should be off the table for most situations.

    Is there precedence where the death penalty was used in a non-murder/death case?
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  • Brother_Five
    Brother_Five Members Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LPast wrote: »
    Brother_Five wrote: »
    using the caveat that we know the persons guilt 100% skews things... also it depends on the crime.
    I think it should be off the table for most situations.

    Is there precedence where the death penalty was used in a non-murder/death case?

    I mean the circumstances around the crime(murder/death).
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  • _Goldie_
    _Goldie_ Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 30,349 Regulator
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    Mainly for the falsely accused of murder.
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  • yellowtapesport
    yellowtapesport Members Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    All for it

    Bring back the firing squad
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  • fuc_i_look_like
    fuc_i_look_like Members Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Only reason Im kinda against the death penalty is because its the easy way out compared to life in prison.
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  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    To many blacks get locked up for doing nothing.
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  • yellowtapesport
    yellowtapesport Members Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    _Goldie_ wrote: »
    Mainly for the falsely accused of murder.
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    To many blacks get locked up for doing nothing.

    Thought we were assuming 100% guilt...I'm not for killing innocent people either
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  • Delphas
    Delphas Members Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    I'm against it.
    • It really doesn't serve as a deterrent against serious crimes.
    • It's expensive as ? .
    • Historically, African-Americans and other minorities have been given the death penalty under erroneous causes. There's several cases where proper DNA testing or an independent 3rd party looks in a case and it's found out the person was innocent.
    • The companies that used to provide the serum used currently for injections is getting out of business, since it's not finacially prudent to have a product that only has one consumer and only gets used once.

    Honestly, I'll be surprised if the US still has the death penalty 20 years from now.
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  • babelipsss
    babelipsss Members Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't think the death penalty was designed to be a deterrent. Murder deserves punishment, not a teaching moment.
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  • yellowtapesport
    yellowtapesport Members Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There are lessor offenses of murder for those 'spare his life' cases...

    But if a ? get convicted of Murder1, I say FRY EM!!
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  • atribecalledgabi
    atribecalledgabi Members, Moderators Posts: 14,063 Regulator
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    Thing is, I'm not against revenge killings. If that's how the family of a victim chooses to grieve so be it. But i don't believe a government should have the right to ? its own people.
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  • LPast
    LPast Members Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    @zzombie

    I thought thou shall not ? ?
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  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LPast wrote: »
    @zzombie

    I thought thou shall not ? ?

    It's thou shall not murder
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  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    zzombie wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    @zzombie

    I thought thou shall not ? ?

    It's thou shall not murder

    Man them kid Bibles messed people up. Too many be out here quoting overgeneralized ? from the Bible. Like how the hell ? gonna command the Israelites not to ? in one book and then help them slaughter enemy after enemy in the rest of the Old Testament.

    I'm for the death penalty, but only for cases where the guilt of the person is indisputable like with some of these serial killers or mass murderers who admit their guilt or get caught in the act.
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  • Arya Tsaddiq
    Arya Tsaddiq Members Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    Easy....
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  • BiblicalAtheist
    BiblicalAtheist Members Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pedophiles, they gotta go.
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  • Arya Tsaddiq
    Arya Tsaddiq Members Posts: 15,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    zzombie wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    @zzombie

    I thought thou shall not ? ?

    It's thou shall not murder

    Thou shalt not ? .
    Ex 20:13

    Strongs # 07523 for "? " in that verse.

    RATSACH



    I.to murder, slay, ?

    A.(Qal) to murder, slay

    i.premeditated


    ii.accidental


    iii.as avenger


    iv.slayer (intentional) (participle)



    B.(Niphal) to be slain


    C.(Piel)

    i.to murder, assassinate


    ii.murderer, assassin (participle)(subst)



    D.(Pual) to be killed




    Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)

    רָצַח râtsach, raw-tsakh'; a primitive root; properly, to dash in pieces, i.e. ? (a human being), especially to murder:—put to death, ? , (man-) slay(-er), murder(-er).
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  • Like Water
    Like Water Members Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ? ain't quick enough for me. ? be on death row for like 30 years before they get put down. ? all that ? . Pedos and their ilk need to go too.

    "Oh you murked someone? ? , you dying tomorrow."
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  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pro-Life (Against death penalty)
    It's cruel

    It's not a deterrent so I really don't see the point beyond enacting vengeance

    However the impulse for revenge is not a sufficient justification for the death penalty, with all its accompanying problems and risks

    I would also like to add that most if not all people have a capacity to change...why rob someone of that opportunity for our own selfish reasons

    Two wrongs don't make a right, meaning it does nothing to move soceity forward in a positive direction
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  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2015
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    For Death Penalty (Victims family's decision)
    Judge_Judah wrote: »
    zzombie wrote: »
    LPast wrote: »
    @zzombie

    I thought thou shall not ? ?

    It's thou shall not murder

    Thou shalt not ? .
    Ex 20:13

    Strongs # 07523 for "? " in that verse.

    RATSACH



    I.to murder, slay, ?

    A.(Qal) to murder, slay

    i.premeditated


    ii.accidental


    iii.as avenger


    iv.slayer (intentional) (participle)



    B.(Niphal) to be slain


    C.(Piel)

    i.to murder, assassinate


    ii.murderer, assassin (participle)(subst)



    D.(Pual) to be killed




    Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)

    רָצַח râtsach, raw-tsakh'; a primitive root; properly, to dash in pieces, i.e. ? (a human being), especially to murder:—put to death, ? , (man-) slay(-er), murder(-er).

    There is a difference in context you cannot just go by dictionary definitions outside of context. If people followed context they would be a lot less confused
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