N. Korea Claims It Has H-Bomb

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State media indicated Thursday that North Korea has added the hydrogen bomb to its arsenal, a development that, if true, would represent an upgrade to its nuclear weapons capabilities.

Observers in recent years believed that North Korea may have been working toward -- but didn't yet have the capability to produce -- a thermonuclear bomb, which can be hundreds of times more powerful than an atomic bomb.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un made the claim, according to state media outlet KCNA, while touring a historic weapons industry site in the country.

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The reclusive communist country has been turned "into a powerful nuclear weapons state ready to detonate [a] self-reliant A-bomb and H-bomb to reliably defend its sovereignty and the dignity of the nation," Kim said, according to the KCNA report.

Observers skeptical
Experts have responded to the claim with skepticism.

John Nilsson-Wright, head of the Asia program at Chatham House, said it was "hard to see convincing technical evidence" of Kim's claim, which he believed it was the first North Korea had made regarding possessing a hydrogen bomb.

North Korea had previously used plutonium in nuclear tests, one of the elements used in more "small fry" fission weapons such as atomic bombs, Nilsson-Wright said, and a leap to thermonuclear capability would be surprising.

"Since the 1980s there is some evidence to suggest a program of developing highly enriched uranium, alongside plutonium, but it's hard to see how they could have made the leap from that to evidence of a working hydrogen bomb," he told CNN.

Lee Chun-geun, a research fellow at the Science and Technology Policy Institute, shared his skepticism.

"It's hard to regard North Korea as possessing an H-bomb. I think it seems to be developing it," Lee said, according to a report by South Korea's Yonhap news agency Thursday.

Hard to assess
However, hard evidence of North Korea's nuclear progress is difficult to come by, Nilsson-Wright said.

Kim's regime generally cloaks its efforts in secrecy and occasionally boasts of advances through propaganda outlets, leaving the rest of the world to attempt to connect the dots.

Nilsson-Wright said such claims were typically made in an "attention-grabbing effort to assert North Korean autonomy and his own political authority" and "enhance its negotiating position with other countries."

In May, North Korea said it had the ability to miniaturize nuclear weapons, a necessary step toward building nuclear missiles. A U.S. National Security Council spokesman responded that the U.S. did not think the North Koreans had such a capability.

Official: North Korea would use nukes if 'forced'

A-bomb vs. H-bomb
The atomic bomb -- the type dropped by the United States over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, at the end of World War II -- produces a fission reaction, in which a neutron collides with an atom's nucleus, splitting it into two smaller nuclei and releasing energy. Nuclear energy plants use fission to generate electricity.

A hydrogen bomb produces a fusion reaction -- the energy source of the sun and the stars -- in which colliding nuclei form a new nucleus. Fusion devices produce explosions "orders of magnitude more powerful than atomic bombs," according to the Preparatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization.

The Hiroshima explosion in 1945 produced the equivalent of 13,000 tons of TNT, according to the commission. By comparison, the world's first thermonuclear test, conducted by the U.S. in the Marshall Islands in 1952, yielded the equivalent of 10.4 million tons of TNT, a blast 700 times more powerful.
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  • jetlifebih
    jetlifebih Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Paybacks a ma ?
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    People say the believe in "karma" all day long....

  • The_Jackal
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    Wuwop wrote: »
    Paybacks a ma ?


    People say the believe in "karma" all day long....

    huh?
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    VIBE wrote: »
    In b4 DoU


    https://youtu.be/VWrG7jzEZio


    It's already written, they are just waiting for the war cry. Amen.
  • jetlifebih
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Wuwop wrote: »
    Paybacks a ma ?


    People say the believe in "karma" all day long....

    huh?

    Us helped s Korea out in the Korean War, they didn't forget....
  • The_Jackal
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    Wuwop wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Wuwop wrote: »
    Paybacks a ma ?


    People say the believe in "karma" all day long....

    huh?

    Us helped s Korea out in the Korean War, they didn't forget....

    But how does any if that equal revenge though is what I mean is all? Its highly likely that Kim is lying and SKorea been had the ability to build nuclear warheads since 2004 but has not.
  • dalyricalbandit
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  • jetlifebih
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Wuwop wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Wuwop wrote: »
    Paybacks a ma ?


    People say the believe in "karma" all day long....

    huh?

    Us helped s Korea out in the Korean War, they didn't forget....

    But how does any if that equal revenge though is what I mean is all? Its highly likely that Kim is lying and SKorea been had the ability to build nuclear warheads since 2004 but has not.

    People don't make bombs to say "look at this"
  • not_osirus_jenkins
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    This the same idiot who said he shot an 18 on a golf course his first time playing.....
  • Stiff
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    I was in the the 5th grade when Bush started talking about invading Iraq because of "weapons of mass destruction" .. whole time Saddam was saying "nah y'all crazy we don't even have no weapons"

    meanwhile North Korea was actively boasting "hell yeah we got nukes ? you mean???" and Bush ain't want nothing to do with it...even back then I knew Bush was a bullshitter
  • VIBE
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    If true, just send over Seth Rogan and James Franco.
  • Preach2Teach
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    People need to stop making bombs and take war back to the good old sword fighting days, then a lot less innocents will die.
  • Ajackson17
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    Stiff wrote: »
    I was in the the 5th grade when Bush started talking about invading Iraq because of "weapons of mass destruction" .. whole time Saddam was saying "nah y'all crazy we don't even have no weapons"

    meanwhile North Korea was actively boasting "hell yeah we got nukes ? you mean???" and Bush ain't want nothing to do with it...even back then I knew Bush was a bullshitter

    You are YOUNG
  • Ajackson17
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    People need to stop making bombs and take war back to the good old sword fighting days, then a lot less innocents will die.

    Nah, there were battles where in one day over 500,000 died. Actually on our end we had the least amount of deaths in any war.
  • Beech Oss Neega
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    This the same idiot who said he shot an 18 on a golf course his first time playing.....


    He also said he invented the hamburger

  • D. Morgan
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    My DC folks if you was raised right will know about it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buXt-yyZEss
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    Cain wrote: »
    Here's the thing about having nuclear weapon's. If you shoot one at someone more than likely they're going to shoot them back at you as well. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate stalemate with countries

    When has this happened?

    I made a thread about this as well. If you think about the destructive power some of these advanced nuclear weapons have, what is a realistic response from a country attacked with nuclear bombs?

    Will they even be able to retaliate because of the fallout? You ever played civilization revolution? Once those nukes hit, you're DONE.

    Maybe I'm being naive tho.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Cain wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    Here's the thing about having nuclear weapon's. If you shoot one at someone more than likely they're going to shoot them back at you as well. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate stalemate with countries

    When has this happened?

    I made a thread about this as well. If you think about the destructive power some of these advanced nuclear weapons have, what is a realistic response from a country attacked with nuclear bombs?

    Will they even be able to retaliate because of the fallout? You ever played civilization revolution? Once those nukes hit, you're DONE.

    Maybe I'm being naive tho.

    A blast radius of conventional Nuke is 50mi. For sake of the argument if Russia shot a missle here in America. America could still send nukes there way and back and fourth to major cities. Government's are not trying to take that much loss to its people.

    The earth will be judged by fire though. Thus ? says that the whole earth will be burned and few men left. A MAJOR catastrophic depopulation of the earths inhabitants is going to take place in the last days.

    Even the secular order of the elite call for the MASSIVE depopulation of mankind on earth. You can find their manifesto on the Georgia guide stones.

    georgia-guidestones-top-commandments.jpg

  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    Nuclear weapons will be used as one of the tools to cleanse the earth by fire in the end of the age!

    Thus it will begin when world war 3 "officially starts" on the day of sudden destruction.


    The end of the conflict will leave 1/4 of this current worlds population dead.

    And that's just the beginning of the end.


    Amen.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Cain wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    Here's the thing about having nuclear weapon's. If you shoot one at someone more than likely they're going to shoot them back at you as well. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate stalemate with countries

    When has this happened?

    I made a thread about this as well. If you think about the destructive power some of these advanced nuclear weapons have, what is a realistic response from a country attacked with nuclear bombs?

    Will they even be able to retaliate because of the fallout? You ever played civilization revolution? Once those nukes hit, you're DONE.

    Maybe I'm being naive tho.

    A blast radius of conventional Nuke is 50mi. For sake of the argument if Russia shot a missle here in America. America could still send nukes there way and back and fourth to major cities. Government's are not trying to take that much loss to its people.

    What people tend to forget is that there are systems in place to deal with ICBMs. N Korea having a couple missiles isn't really a big deal. There is a pretty low chance that a single missile would ever touch down on American set. The real threat is a barrage of them being sent because then there is a possibility that a one or more could slip through.
  • Stiff
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I was in the the 5th grade when Bush started talking about invading Iraq because of "weapons of mass destruction" .. whole time Saddam was saying "nah y'all crazy we don't even have no weapons"

    meanwhile North Korea was actively boasting "hell yeah we got nukes ? you mean???" and Bush ain't want nothing to do with it...even back then I knew Bush was a bullshitter

    You are YOUNG

    lol 23
  • reapin505
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    People need to stop making bombs and take war back to the good old sword fighting days, then a lot less innocents will die.

    Nah, there were battles where in one day over 500,000 died. Actually on our end we had the least amount of deaths in any war.

    Links? 500,000 so like an exaggeration
  • Stiff
    Stiff Members Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Cain wrote: »
    Cain wrote: »
    Here's the thing about having nuclear weapon's. If you shoot one at someone more than likely they're going to shoot them back at you as well. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate stalemate with countries

    When has this happened?

    I made a thread about this as well. If you think about the destructive power some of these advanced nuclear weapons have, what is a realistic response from a country attacked with nuclear bombs?

    Will they even be able to retaliate because of the fallout? You ever played civilization revolution? Once those nukes hit, you're DONE.

    Maybe I'm being naive tho.

    A blast radius of conventional Nuke is 50mi. For sake of the argument if Russia shot a missle here in America. America could still send nukes there way and back and fourth to major cities. Government's are not trying to take that much loss to its people.

    What people tend to forget is that there are systems in place to deal with ICBMs. N Korea having a couple missiles isn't really a big deal. There is a pretty low chance that a single missile would ever touch down on American set. The real threat is a barrage of them being sent because then there is a possibility that a one or more could slip through.

    Not even that...the nuke's aren't the problem for us because like you said they'll never have a nuke that can reach American soil..the problem is them ? with South Korea...they would be able to completely level Seoul in like 45 minutes without ever using a nuke just using by using artillery. The nukes are just a trophy for them