Rappers That Get A Pass Simply Because They're "Legends"
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how i keep missing these busta threads? lol
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trendsetta1030 wrote: »
On mf point broski ofnJay Z. He's a corny crossover pop culture rapper who has built his career off biting and recycling old Biggie lines.
Reasonable Doubt- copy az,nas,bigl,raekwon.
Vol1 copy diddy mase big
Vol2 copy ruff ryders mase philly
Dynasty- copy the west coast movement at that time
Vol3 copy state prop down south
Blue print was sequel to young guns tough luv
Bp2 well I stop ? wit tha ? by then
So were is jay z originality ?
Mindblowing........
He's a certify ? .
Cuz actually thought Juelz Santana was more mainstream than Nas -
How blueprint a sequel to tough luv when it came out 3 years prior?
@trendsetta1030 get yo ass in here nh
You gonna explain this ? b! -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »How blueprint a sequel to tough luv when it came out 3 years prior?
trendsetta1030 get yo ass in here nh
You gonna explain this ? b!
Don't @ that ? ass ? bruh. -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »How blueprint a sequel to tough luv when it came out 3 years prior?
Cuz.....Revolver Ocelot wrote: »trendsetta1030 wrote: »
On mf point broski ofnJay Z. He's a corny crossover pop culture rapper who has built his career off biting and recycling old Biggie lines.
Reasonable Doubt- copy az,nas,bigl,raekwon.
Vol1 copy diddy mase big
Vol2 copy ruff ryders mase philly
Dynasty- copy the west coast movement at that time
Vol3 copy state prop down south
Blue print was sequel to young guns tough luv
Bp2 well I stop ? wit tha ? by then
So were is jay z originality ?
Mindblowing........
He's a certify ? .
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »nawledge_? wrote: »Busta Lettin Them LOL's Go To His Head
Lmao old thread bro.
And I was deadass when I made it.
Ice-T is ? cheeks and has always been
Take That back Bruh
Ice-T Pioneered Gangsta/Conscious Rap
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nawledge_? wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »nawledge_? wrote: »Busta Lettin Them LOL's Go To His Head
Lmao old thread bro.
And I was deadass when I made it.
Ice-T is ? cheeks and has always been
Take That back Bruh
Ice-T Pioneered Gangsta/Conscious Rap
I mean to be fair his breakout song was taken from Schooly D. Same cadence and everything and himself would say Schooly pioneered it.
Cube made it hot and Eazy made it famous(even tho he didn't write his rhymes, he had the IT factor)
Ion what to say bruh, in retrospect Iceberg was just a lisping light skin fake ? /crip who had respect in the streets
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This must be one of the most ? threads in a looong time.
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Ice T did more then just rap though.
Ice-T was\is a part of the Zulu Nation. He was repping the west coast while working with Africa Islam on the east coast.
Ice-T was also a B-Boy. He's been involved with Hip Hop as an art form from the beginning.
Ice-T pioneered lucrative business practices within Hip Hop. Whether it was getting deals for members of the Syndicate or doing indie deals for himself.
Ice-T went at the cops and law enforcement in political protest with Cop Killer. Ice-t is truly a legend within Hip Hop.
I grew up in BK and Ice-T was that dude from the first listen of "six in the morning". -
These ? say some of the dumbest ? ....lol
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Ice T did more then just rap though.
Ice-T was\is a part of the Zulu Nation. He was repping the west coast while working with Africa Islam on the east coast.
Ice-T was also a B-Boy. He's been involved with Hip Hop as an art form from the beginning.
Ice-T pioneered lucrative business practices within Hip Hop. Whether it was getting deals for members of the Syndicate or doing indie deals for himself.
Ice-T went at the cops and law enforcement in political protest with Cop Killer. Ice-t is truly a legend within Hip Hop.
I grew up in BK and Ice-T was that dude from the first listen of "six in the morning".
You somehow find yourself in a trial by combat and you can only choose one of these two rappers to spit a hot 16, they lose, you both die/get locked up.
Ice-T or Rakim? -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Ice T did more then just rap though.
Ice-T was\is a part of the Zulu Nation. He was repping the west coast while working with Africa Islam on the east coast.
Ice-T was also a B-Boy. He's been involved with Hip Hop as an art form from the beginning.
Ice-T pioneered lucrative business practices within Hip Hop. Whether it was getting deals for members of the Syndicate or doing indie deals for himself.
Ice-T went at the cops and law enforcement in political protest with Cop Killer. Ice-t is truly a legend within Hip Hop.
I grew up in BK and Ice-T was that dude from the first listen of "six in the morning".
You somehow find yourself in a trial by combat and you can only choose one of these two rappers to spit a hot 16, they lose, you both die/get locked up.
Ice-T or Rakim?
I would choose Rakim more then likely. But if, I needed cat who could spit game, keep it 100 and we slide out I'm going with Ice-T. Both are legends in their own right. -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Ice T did more then just rap though.
Ice-T was\is a part of the Zulu Nation. He was repping the west coast while working with Africa Islam on the east coast.
Ice-T was also a B-Boy. He's been involved with Hip Hop as an art form from the beginning.
Ice-T pioneered lucrative business practices within Hip Hop. Whether it was getting deals for members of the Syndicate or doing indie deals for himself.
Ice-T went at the cops and law enforcement in political protest with Cop Killer. Ice-t is truly a legend within Hip Hop.
I grew up in BK and Ice-T was that dude from the first listen of "six in the morning".
You somehow find yourself in a trial by combat and you can only choose one of these two rappers to spit a hot 16, they lose, you both die/get locked up.
Ice-T or Rakim?
I would choose Rakim more then likely. But if, I needed cat who could spit game, keep it 100 and we slide out I'm going with Ice-T. Both are legends in their own right.
Cube or Ice-T? -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Ice T did more then just rap though.
Ice-T was\is a part of the Zulu Nation. He was repping the west coast while working with Africa Islam on the east coast.
Ice-T was also a B-Boy. He's been involved with Hip Hop as an art form from the beginning.
Ice-T pioneered lucrative business practices within Hip Hop. Whether it was getting deals for members of the Syndicate or doing indie deals for himself.
Ice-T went at the cops and law enforcement in political protest with Cop Killer. Ice-t is truly a legend within Hip Hop.
I grew up in BK and Ice-T was that dude from the first listen of "six in the morning".
You somehow find yourself in a trial by combat and you can only choose one of these two rappers to spit a hot 16, they lose, you both die/get locked up.
Ice-T or Rakim?
I would choose Rakim more then likely. But if, I needed cat who could spit game, keep it 100 and we slide out I'm going with Ice-T. Both are legends in their own right.
Cube or Ice-T?
It would be a tie for me in the MC category. But again both are legends for similar contributions and legends for very different contributions.
But how about Ice-T used East Coast production on his debut (Africa Islam) and Cube used East Coast production for his solo debut (bomb squad). Also both had the Govt. on their ? for going at the police. Legends!! -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Ice T did more then just rap though.
Ice-T was\is a part of the Zulu Nation. He was repping the west coast while working with Africa Islam on the east coast.
Ice-T was also a B-Boy. He's been involved with Hip Hop as an art form from the beginning.
Ice-T pioneered lucrative business practices within Hip Hop. Whether it was getting deals for members of the Syndicate or doing indie deals for himself.
Ice-T went at the cops and law enforcement in political protest with Cop Killer. Ice-t is truly a legend within Hip Hop.
I grew up in BK and Ice-T was that dude from the first listen of "six in the morning".
You somehow find yourself in a trial by combat and you can only choose one of these two rappers to spit a hot 16, they lose, you both die/get locked up.
Ice-T or Rakim?
I would choose Rakim more then likely. But if, I needed cat who could spit game, keep it 100 and we slide out I'm going with Ice-T. Both are legends in their own right.
Cube or Ice-T?
It would be a tie for me in the MC category. But again both are legends for similar contributions and legends for very different contributions.
But how about Ice-T used East Coast production on his debut (Africa Islam) and Cube used East Coast production for his solo debut (bomb squad). Also both had the Govt. on their ? for going at the police. Legends!!
Nah b Cube would spit rounds around Ice-T and that's not even debatable.
So would Kool G rap, Big Daddy Kane, LL cool J and anyone from Ice-T time.
He's a legend in the sense that he's a pioneer and influenced a lot, but on the mic? Nah.
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »Ice T did more then just rap though.
Ice-T was\is a part of the Zulu Nation. He was repping the west coast while working with Africa Islam on the east coast.
Ice-T was also a B-Boy. He's been involved with Hip Hop as an art form from the beginning.
Ice-T pioneered lucrative business practices within Hip Hop. Whether it was getting deals for members of the Syndicate or doing indie deals for himself.
Ice-T went at the cops and law enforcement in political protest with Cop Killer. Ice-t is truly a legend within Hip Hop.
I grew up in BK and Ice-T was that dude from the first listen of "six in the morning".
You somehow find yourself in a trial by combat and you can only choose one of these two rappers to spit a hot 16, they lose, you both die/get locked up.
Ice-T or Rakim?
I would choose Rakim more then likely. But if, I needed cat who could spit game, keep it 100 and we slide out I'm going with Ice-T. Both are legends in their own right.
Cube or Ice-T?
It would be a tie for me in the MC category. But again both are legends for similar contributions and legends for very different contributions.
But how about Ice-T used East Coast production on his debut (Africa Islam) and Cube used East Coast production for his solo debut (bomb squad). Also both had the Govt. on their ? for going at the police. Legends!!
Nah b Cube would spit rounds around Ice-T and that's not even debatable.
So would Kool G rap, Big Daddy Kane, LL cool J and anyone from Ice-T time.
He's a legend in the sense that he's a pioneer and influenced a lot, but on the mic? Nah.
That's what the thread is about
This was your original post.
"I've seen people on here big up so called legends and act like they were actually hot at one point but can't seem to point out a dope album or even a song.
Ice-T and Krs fits in this category "
Family. Rhymes Pays is not just a dope album but a Classic album. Power is a Dope album. And the song "colors" is an undeniable classic. It was what made the entire movie soundtrack. Not to mention one of the major beer company's is using the song for a current marketing campaign. Chill family you don't have valid argument as to why Ice-T isn't also a legend on the MIC. -
I remember when KRS and Ice T were both in their prime. Its not necessarily their flow that made them legends, its their subject matter. They spoke about things that big name rappers like Run DMC, Salt N Pepa or LL Cool J wouldn't address.
KRS and Ice T talked about racism, drugs, violence and how the government is corrupt. KRS and Ice T were the first rappers (along with Public Enemy) to make entire albums about socio-political issues. -
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Nah jokes aside I hear what u guys are saying.
They are legends in their own right but flow wise they're lack luster.
Aint nobody under the age of 52 bumping no damn Iceberg or Kris -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Nah jokes aside I hear what u guys are saying.
They are legends in their own right but flow wise they're lack luster.
Aint nobody under the age of 52 bumping no damn Iceberg or Kris
You bugging family. I still listen to the rhymes pays lp.
And Kris latest project " the world is mind" is phenomenal. Production, flow, skill and subject matter it's all there.
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »How blueprint a sequel to tough luv when it came out 3 years prior?
@trendsetta1030 get yo ass in here nh
You gonna explain this ? b!
I ment 2 say bp2 was a sequel to tough luv
He even stole oschino flow on popin tags listen 2 oschino ft twista blow…
An jay stole chris style
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trendsetta1030 wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »How blueprint a sequel to tough luv when it came out 3 years prior?
@trendsetta1030 get yo ass in here nh
You gonna explain this ? b!
I ment 2 say bp2 was a sequel to tough luv
He even stole oschino flow on popin tags listen 2 oschino ft twista blow…
An jay stole chris stylehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=rCg56JPsWv4
EVEN BLUEPRINT 2 STILL CAME OUT YEARS BEFORE TOUGH LUV!
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »trendsetta1030 wrote: »Busta Carmichael wrote: »How blueprint a sequel to tough luv when it came out 3 years prior?
@trendsetta1030 get yo ass in here nh
You gonna explain this ? b!
I ment 2 say bp2 was a sequel to tough luv
He even stole oschino flow on popin tags listen 2 oschino ft twista blow…
An jay stole chris stylehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=rCg56JPsWv4
EVEN BLUEPRINT 2 STILL CAME OUT YEARS BEFORE TOUGH LUV!
this ?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=K7sA0FxRWo8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tnDh0JhmaFw
Chris influenced jay
Excuse me miss what's yo name can I possibly-chris -
I know Hov stole Chris flow.
However no young Gunz album is touching hov.
? Tim dog could steal Hov flow. Would that make him dope? Nah
Subject matter, flow, precense, and tone makes Jay a great
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »I know Hov stole Chris flow.
However no young Gunz album is touching hov.
? Tim dog could steal Hov flow. Would that make him dope? Nah
Subject matter, flow, precense, and tone makes Jay a great
What subject matter
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ybEZF4Vbe3A
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OLlKFHuwoLg
1 of his biggest hits wasn't even his song
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MUN9giYJhew
Wat presence ? All his hits have samples or features but ya complain about French Montana
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aCHB4GCyufE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OBILx8NB-Uc
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rq0FrCdFd9U
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9XiDG9acqRk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Oifd56t6Md8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=31xa0CLbcls
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM
This wasn't jay song either
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nG8o_9RliwU
It wasn't until bp 1 that jay was able 2 stand on his own 2 feet but by then he had already majinbuu errbody arnd him n Chris been signed since the dynasty cd
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SNXLqfsLBFk
Jay is the perfect example of this thread
So wat flow his flow is chris
Wat presence all his early hits had features or samples wat tone he switched up his style 2 whatever was hot at the time never settin his own trends
