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The United States should consider reparations to African-American descendants

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  • FosheezyFosheezy AKA Flying Wonders the Diamond Mind Posts: 3,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Not only reparations they shouldn't be allowed to continue to benefit from the crimes of their ancestors either. That mean they need to give back all the stolen T land they have too

    And are we going to give it back to the native Americans?

    Something to that effect there's much detail that need to be fleshed out Lol

    At least the natives are tax exempt and have reservations, at minimum descendants of slaves should be broken off with some land and other forms of ownership should be discussed
  • leftcoastkevleftcoastkev Nothing left to prove Bay Area, CAPosts: 6,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2016
    I'm for reparations.

    My only concern about reparations is that it can be used as a cover for the collapsing of the current economic system (if what some economists are saying is correct). Then the propaganda machine worldwide will blame black "Americans" for collapsing the economy. We'd basically end up with Zimbabwe money. Even if that happened, fuck it tho because without (some of) our ancestors America would have never become the power house that it did so it'll just be a form of a reset. We'd just have to suffer through it.
  • cannonspike1994cannonspike1994 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Not only reparations they shouldn't be allowed to continue to benefit from the crimes of their ancestors either. That mean they need to give back all the stolen T land they have too

    And are we going to give it back to the native Americans?

    We are the native americans. Black people lived here for 50,000 years before anyone else.
    NothingButTheTruthStillFaggyAFJabu_RuleAjackson17
  • jetlifebihjetlifebih Sion Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Not only reparations they shouldn't be allowed to continue to benefit from the crimes of their ancestors either. That mean they need to give back all the stolen T land they have too

    And are we going to give it back to the native Americans?

    Something to that effect there's much detail that need to be fleshed out Lol

    At least the natives are tax exempt and have reservations, at minimum descendants of slaves should be broken off with some land and other forms of ownership should be discussed

    What that creates is an environment still occupied by the government, and complacency among other issues that are problematic to our community

    What's the end goal? Do we want our own? Or do we want Europeans to dictate how we live?
  • FosheezyFosheezy AKA Flying Wonders the Diamond Mind Posts: 3,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Not only reparations they shouldn't be allowed to continue to benefit from the crimes of their ancestors either. That mean they need to give back all the stolen T land they have too

    And are we going to give it back to the native Americans?

    Something to that effect there's much detail that need to be fleshed out Lol

    At least the natives are tax exempt and have reservations, at minimum descendants of slaves should be broken off with some land and other forms of ownership should be discussed

    What that creates is an environment still occupied by the government, and complacency among other issues that are problematic to our community

    What's the end goal? Do we want our own? Or do we want Europeans to dictate how we live?

    The end goal should be ownership and freedom from an oppressive system but for many the end goal is just a pair of Jordan's and/or women. Smh.

    jetlifebihdnyce215Ajackson17
  • StiffStiff Legion of Trill BG Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous
  • Jabu_RuleJabu_Rule Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • obnoxiouslyfreshobnoxiouslyfresh Still Ginny From The Block Posts: 11,495 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?
    Angel out of heaven, such a goddess, have a nigga praying [-O<
  • cannonspike1994cannonspike1994 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Fosheezy wrote: »
    Not only reparations they shouldn't be allowed to continue to benefit from the crimes of their ancestors either. That mean they need to give back all the stolen T land they have too

    And are we going to give it back to the native Americans?

    Something to that effect there's much detail that need to be fleshed out Lol

    At least the natives are tax exempt and have reservations, at minimum descendants of slaves should be broken off with some land and other forms of ownership should be discussed

    What that creates is an environment still occupied by the government, and complacency among other issues that are problematic to our community

    What's the end goal? Do we want our own? Or do we want Europeans to dictate how we live?

    The end goal should be ownership and freedom from an oppressive system but for many the end goal is just a pair of Jordan's and/or women. Smh.

    If black people got reparations we would buy all the corporations.
  • texas409texas409 Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2016
    They can repay me giving me A 1 credit and removing my Student Loan debt that alone can help me and my future children out
    dnyce215
  • traestartraestar Atlantic City, NJPosts: 6,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • StiffStiff Legion of Trill BG Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?

    Because they would cut that money from somewhere to balance out...and just giving people money who aren't used to having it usually ends with them blowing it if they ain't got the money management skills like that. It'd be like the lottery..most lottery winners end up going broke. I feel like it'd be the same thing and it'd just make a bunch of corporations's profits surge.
  • leftcoastkevleftcoastkev Nothing left to prove Bay Area, CAPosts: 6,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2016
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?

    Because they would cut that money from somewhere to balance out...and just giving people money who aren't used to having it usually ends with them blowing it if they ain't got the money management skills like that. It'd be like the lottery..most lottery winners end up going broke. I feel like it'd be the same thing and it'd just make a bunch of corporations's profits surge.

    i could be wrong here, but

    Unless reparations are completely low balled (billions is low balling), that money would need to be borrowed from the Federal Reserve (with interest attached) and printed. There's no feasible way to balance it that I am aware of without compromising the security of the nation.

    If the FED injects 100s of billions or trillions of additional dollars into the economy for the purposes of putting in our pockets, the value of the dollar goes down. Because collectively everyone has more, the price tag of goods goes up. Even if corporations profits surge, they will surge with a decreasing value to those dollars.

    Not to mention, non blacks who are feeling the pinch of the current economy would feel it to an even greater degree if the value of the dollar goes down dramatically and they are not getting a comparable boost. As I said the price tag for things would go up where they can't afford it, so they'd become poor-er due to others having more. They'd likely riot, violently. I doubt reparations would ever occur unless what I just said is by design. As much as our ancestors worked for it and deserve it, the country can't afford to pay it.

    xxCivicxx
  • StiffStiff Legion of Trill BG Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?

    Because they would cut that money from somewhere to balance out...and just giving people money who aren't used to having it usually ends with them blowing it if they ain't got the money management skills like that. It'd be like the lottery..most lottery winners end up going broke. I feel like it'd be the same thing and it'd just make a bunch of corporations's profits surge.

    i could be wrong here, but

    Unless reparations are completely low balled (billions is low balling), that money would need to be borrowed from the Federal Reserve (with interest attached) and printed. There's no feasible way to balance it that I am aware of without compromising the security of the nation.

    If the FED injects 100s of billions or trillions of additional dollars into the economy for the purposes of putting in our pockets, the value of the dollar and goods obtainable goes down. Even if corporations profits surge, they will surge with a decreasing value of those dollars.

    Not to mention, non blacks who are feeling the pinch of the current economy would feel it double if the value of the dollar goes down dramatically and they are not getting a boost. They'd likely riot, violently. I doubt reparations would ever occur unless what I just said is by design. As much as our ancestors worked for it and deserve it, the country can't afford to pay it.

    When I imagine cash reparations I imagine like a million dollar check for every Black adult and an extra 500,000 to the adults for every kid or something like that. But yea you're probably right tho...shit's just not feasible without causing inflation and crashing the dollar.
  • leftcoastkevleftcoastkev Nothing left to prove Bay Area, CAPosts: 6,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2016
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?

    Because they would cut that money from somewhere to balance out...and just giving people money who aren't used to having it usually ends with them blowing it if they ain't got the money management skills like that. It'd be like the lottery..most lottery winners end up going broke. I feel like it'd be the same thing and it'd just make a bunch of corporations's profits surge.

    i could be wrong here, but

    Unless reparations are completely low balled (billions is low balling), that money would need to be borrowed from the Federal Reserve (with interest attached) and printed. There's no feasible way to balance it that I am aware of without compromising the security of the nation.

    If the FED injects 100s of billions or trillions of additional dollars into the economy for the purposes of putting in our pockets, the value of the dollar and goods obtainable goes down. Even if corporations profits surge, they will surge with a decreasing value of those dollars.

    Not to mention, non blacks who are feeling the pinch of the current economy would feel it double if the value of the dollar goes down dramatically and they are not getting a boost. They'd likely riot, violently. I doubt reparations would ever occur unless what I just said is by design. As much as our ancestors worked for it and deserve it, the country can't afford to pay it.

    When I imagine cash reparations I imagine like a million dollar check for every Black adult and an extra 500,000 to the adults for every kid or something like that. But yea you're probably right tho...shit's just not feasible without causing inflation and crashing the dollar.

    There are around 38m blacks in America.

    IMO 1m a piece is really low, but if we rolled with that....38 million dollars shouldnt be too bad in terms of injecting into the economy as far as causing any type of real fluctuation.

    Not too mention I'm sure prisons would happily accept the payouts on behalf of those incarcerated.

    (Note:The 38m count of blacks in America does not make the distinction between blacks with direct lineage to former slaves and those without)
  • StiffStiff Legion of Trill BG Posts: 7,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?

    Because they would cut that money from somewhere to balance out...and just giving people money who aren't used to having it usually ends with them blowing it if they ain't got the money management skills like that. It'd be like the lottery..most lottery winners end up going broke. I feel like it'd be the same thing and it'd just make a bunch of corporations's profits surge.

    i could be wrong here, but

    Unless reparations are completely low balled (billions is low balling), that money would need to be borrowed from the Federal Reserve (with interest attached) and printed. There's no feasible way to balance it that I am aware of without compromising the security of the nation.

    If the FED injects 100s of billions or trillions of additional dollars into the economy for the purposes of putting in our pockets, the value of the dollar and goods obtainable goes down. Even if corporations profits surge, they will surge with a decreasing value of those dollars.

    Not to mention, non blacks who are feeling the pinch of the current economy would feel it double if the value of the dollar goes down dramatically and they are not getting a boost. They'd likely riot, violently. I doubt reparations would ever occur unless what I just said is by design. As much as our ancestors worked for it and deserve it, the country can't afford to pay it.

    When I imagine cash reparations I imagine like a million dollar check for every Black adult and an extra 500,000 to the adults for every kid or something like that. But yea you're probably right tho...shit's just not feasible without causing inflation and crashing the dollar.

    There are around 38m blacks in America.

    38 million dollars shouldnt be too bad in terms of injecting into the economy as far as causing any type of real fluctuation.

    Not too mention I'm sure prisons would happily accept the payouts on behalf of those incarcerated.

    (Note:The 38m count of blacks in America does not make the distinction between blacks with direct lineage to former slaves and those without)

    that wouldn't be 38 million dollars...that'd be 1 million times 38 million which is like 38 trillion(?) .. that shit would sink everything
    Ajackson17
  • leftcoastkevleftcoastkev Nothing left to prove Bay Area, CAPosts: 6,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?

    Because they would cut that money from somewhere to balance out...and just giving people money who aren't used to having it usually ends with them blowing it if they ain't got the money management skills like that. It'd be like the lottery..most lottery winners end up going broke. I feel like it'd be the same thing and it'd just make a bunch of corporations's profits surge.

    i could be wrong here, but

    Unless reparations are completely low balled (billions is low balling), that money would need to be borrowed from the Federal Reserve (with interest attached) and printed. There's no feasible way to balance it that I am aware of without compromising the security of the nation.

    If the FED injects 100s of billions or trillions of additional dollars into the economy for the purposes of putting in our pockets, the value of the dollar and goods obtainable goes down. Even if corporations profits surge, they will surge with a decreasing value of those dollars.

    Not to mention, non blacks who are feeling the pinch of the current economy would feel it double if the value of the dollar goes down dramatically and they are not getting a boost. They'd likely riot, violently. I doubt reparations would ever occur unless what I just said is by design. As much as our ancestors worked for it and deserve it, the country can't afford to pay it.

    When I imagine cash reparations I imagine like a million dollar check for every Black adult and an extra 500,000 to the adults for every kid or something like that. But yea you're probably right tho...shit's just not feasible without causing inflation and crashing the dollar.

    There are around 38m blacks in America.

    38 million dollars shouldnt be too bad in terms of injecting into the economy as far as causing any type of real fluctuation.

    Not too mention I'm sure prisons would happily accept the payouts on behalf of those incarcerated.

    (Note:The 38m count of blacks in America does not make the distinction between blacks with direct lineage to former slaves and those without)

    that wouldn't be 38 million dollars...that'd be 1 million times 38 million which is like 38 trillion(?) .. that shit would sink everything

    Lol yeah my bad. You're right.

    38m x 1m ain't 38m. It's 38 trillion.

    And 38 trillion changes everything.






  • Mr.LVMr.LV Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    I'm against reparations in the form of money...shit would be disastrous



    why?

    Because they would cut that money from somewhere to balance out...and just giving people money who aren't used to having it usually ends with them blowing it if they ain't got the money management skills like that. It'd be like the lottery..most lottery winners end up going broke. I feel like it'd be the same thing and it'd just make a bunch of corporations's profits surge.

    I do not know why people are worried about how someone else spend their money, if they blow through it that's on them. I'll take that check and triple up.

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