Is stef curry destroying the game of bball?

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  • D0wn
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  • ericb4prez
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    I think he's helping the game cuz he is proof that if you perfect the basics of basketball you can be just as good if not better than the tallest most athletic person in the gym
  • 5 Grand
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    I remember when Shaq was in his prime. He just used to get the ball, turn around and dunk it. There was no way to stop him. But he didn't ruin the game.
  • infamous114
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    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    ericb4prez wrote: »
    I think he's helping the game cuz he is proof that if you perfect the basics of basketball you can be just as good if not better than the tallest most athletic person in the gym

    this

    kids prolly wanted to be like mj, vince or lebron in the lay up line b4 the game

    now they see steph dribbling and using other fundamentals
  • caddo man
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    BlackAX410 wrote: »
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    Half court >>>>>> all that running ? with my ability to play D

    As long as the team defense is good full court shouldn't effect that. My only issue with it is heads taking 3's before anyone is under the basket for a rebound

    Long shot, long rebound.
  • sobek
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    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.

    In comparison to the defensive/competitiveness 10 to 15 years ago to now it is.
  • BlackAX410
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    caddo man wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    Beta wrote: »
    Half court >>>>>> all that running ? with my ability to play D

    As long as the team defense is good full court shouldn't effect that. My only issue with it is heads taking 3's before anyone is under the basket for a rebound

    Long shot, long rebound.

    Going 1 on 4 with it tho? U can't justify pull up contested 3's being a good shot to me
  • BlackAX410
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    sobek wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.

    In comparison to the defensive/competitiveness 10 to 15 years ago to now it is.

    NBA was at its worst offensively 15 years ago the league is a way better product now
  • sobek
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    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.

    In comparison to the defensive/competitiveness 10 to 15 years ago to now it is.

    NBA was at its worst offensively 15 years ago the league is a way better product now

    It's a better product in terms of offense, yes. But I wasn't talking about offense.
  • MallyG
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    O.G. wrote: »
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    I won't say destroyed but the game lost something when these ? got shine.

    And the funny thing is, most if not all these cats from Alimoe/Black Widow, Shane TDM, Half Man, A.O. etc.... These cats were all fundamentally sound to the core. The kids just wanted clown w/o wanting to learn all the basics.
  • BlackAX410
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    sobek wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.

    In comparison to the defensive/competitiveness 10 to 15 years ago to now it is.

    NBA was at its worst offensively 15 years ago the league is a way better product now

    It's a better product in terms of offense, yes. But I wasn't talking about offense.

    Defense wasn't really THAT much better u gotta consider it was an increase of high school players who's games weren't refined at all getting rotation minutes. I vividly remember Darius miles saying he didn't wanna add a jumper cuz he thought he could rely strictly on athleticism, til his knees gave out
  • iron man1
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    MallyG wrote: »
    O.G. wrote: »
    and1-mixtape-5-o.gif

    I won't say destroyed but the game lost something when these ? got shine.

    And the funny thing is, most if not all these cats from Alimoe/Black Widow, Shane TDM, Half Man, A.O. etc.... These cats were all fundamentally sound to the core. The kids just wanted clown w/o wanting to learn all the basics.

    Skip to my lou made it for a few years to get some bread
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    sobek wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.

    In comparison to the defensive/competitiveness 10 to 15 years ago to now it is.

    NBA was at its worst offensively 15 years ago the league is a way better product now

    It's a better product in terms of offense, yes. But I wasn't talking about offense.

    back then ? couldnt defend so much better than they do now, only difference is then u can get away with power slammin ? in the air, now a days ur exposed. ? all that fugazi tough punchin ? in the air ? of the old days.
  • BeleeDatPleighboy
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    sobek wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.

    In comparison to the defensive/competitiveness 10 to 15 years ago to now it is.

    NBA was at its worst offensively 15 years ago the league is a way better product now

    It's a better product in terms of offense, yes. But I wasn't talking about offense.

    back then ? couldnt defend so much better than they do now, only difference is then u can get away with power slammin ? in the air, now a days ur exposed. ? all that fugazi tough punchin ? in the air ? of the old days.

    Naw....

    I think them taking the hand check away was the killer....
  • dallas' 4 eva
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    Lmao nah he aint ruin it, he is just a by product of the NBA ruining itself by becoming a punk ass baby sport.
  • Smokey Tha Bandit
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    all the 3 jackin is definitely having a bad effect on the current and future of the game. I dont know if Steph is completely at fault because it was already heading towards the way it is now with the softening of rules but some of the blood is on his hands. No doubt about it. I literally have to force myself to continue watching the ? , I dont find it entertaining at all. Its like watching people play online on NBA2K. I know Im in the minority but it is what it is. Its getting out of hand, it really is...
  • The Lonious Monk
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    Steph influencing kids to learn to shoot > AI influencing kids to learn to dribble but nothing else

    I don't know. I think I'd rather a ? dribble all day and then draw a foul than jack up a shot two feet from the half court line. You're basically comparing the technically sound part of Curry's game to the unsound part of AI's.
    sobek wrote: »
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    sobek wrote: »
    Steph didn't ruin the NBA, the NBA did. They made the game less defensive with by implementing unnecessary rules. They're too quick to penalize players for "flagrant fouls" when 9 time out of 10 it shouldn't be considered flagrant. They got ? scared to even defend themselves in a fight cuz they worried about getting suspended and receiving heavy fines up the ass.

    IMO, all these things combined has resulted in a much less aggressive, and even somewhat less competitive attitudes by players overall. When we were kids watching the NBA, ? on opposing teams hated each other. In today's NBA, most players don't even really show a competitive dislike for their opponents. Some dudes even act like losing ain't that big of a deal.

    The NBA is not even ruined to begin with.

    In comparison to the defensive/competitiveness 10 to 15 years ago to now it is.

    NBA was at its worst offensively 15 years ago the league is a way better product now

    It's a better product in terms of offense, yes. But I wasn't talking about offense.

    back then ? couldnt defend so much better than they do now, only difference is then u can get away with power slammin ? in the air, now a days ur exposed. ? all that fugazi tough punchin ? in the air ? of the old days.

    Stop it. People did play better defense back then. It was a more integral part of the game. You can get away with weaker defense now, so not as much of a premium now.
  • Bcotton5
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    Lmao nah he aint ruin it, he is just a by product of the NBA ruining itself by becoming a punk ass baby sport.

    Lol yea i cant front i seriously cant watch regular season nba games unless its the top 4-5 teams playing each other
  • Bcotton5
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    I coach high school and yea the jacking up stupid 3s ? is running rampant right now