Lord Jamar: Society Forgets About Black Scientists, We Created Science

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  • Ajackson17
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    @jetlifebih

    I stay in those scientific journals and they release them all of the time. These cats are learning more and more about ourselves and we ain't.

    Read this.

    http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/07/2014/70000-year-old-african-settlement-unearthed
  • jetlifebih
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    @jetlifebih

    I stay in those scientific journals and they release them all of the time. These cats are learning more and more about ourselves and we ain't.

    Read this.

    http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/07/2014/70000-year-old-african-settlement-unearthed

    Just read the opening, but why the ? are polish people digging in Africa?!?!?! Get them mfs out of there....more Europeans gaining control of the African narrative, but interesting find, I would also like to know what animals were hunted back then
  • Ajackson17
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    jetlifebih wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    @jetlifebih

    I stay in those scientific journals and they release them all of the time. These cats are learning more and more about ourselves and we ain't.

    Read this.

    http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/07/2014/70000-year-old-african-settlement-unearthed

    Just read the opening, but why the ? are polish people digging in Africa?!?!?! Get them mfs out of there....more Europeans gaining control of the African narrative, but interesting find, I would also like to know what animals were hunted back then

    They are there because we ain't doing our due diligence, we are trying to argue about Mu, being aboriginal to the Americas such as being native americans(we are west africans), fighting against the slave trade existence, being hebrew israelites and etc. Just a lot of messed up thinking.
  • A Talented One
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    _Goldie_ wrote: »
    lol @ what's the evidence. Everything from the alphabet to the calendar to the seasons to astrology was created by the original people.

    There are two sets of questions: factual ones about who created what, and more conceptual ones about what is constitutes 'science.' Even if the answers to the first set of questions are clear, there will be considerable difficulties in satisfactorily answering the second set.

    Then again, answering the second set can be obviated by claiming that we creating everything, but that is dubious.
  • Shizlansky
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    slaves was used to build the pyramids and many died during it.

    They are a wonder of the world but that whole process was crazy.

  • Ajackson17
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    slaves was used to build the pyramids and many died during it.

    They are a wonder of the world but that whole process was crazy.

    Read

    http://news.discovery.com/history/ancient-egypt/pyramids-tombs-giza-egypt.htm

    http://harvardmagazine.com/2003/07/who-built-the-pyramids-html

    No slave labor touched the pyramids and these were trained masons that helped build the pyramids, no slave has life insurance, no slave gets fed handsomely, no slave gets paid a ? ton of money, and it was a young man's duty and it was a proud duty for someone to work on the projects.

    Plus, the masons wrote about working on the pyramids and they had fun doing so and raced moving stones .
  • Ajackson17
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    _Goldie_ wrote: »
    lol @ what's the evidence. Everything from the alphabet to the calendar to the seasons to astrology was created by the original people.

    There are two sets of questions: factual ones about who created what, and more conceptual ones about what is constitutes 'science.' Even if the answers to the first set of questions are clear, there will be considerable difficulties in satisfactorily answering the second set.

    Then again, answering the second set can be obviated by claiming that we creating everything, but that is dubious.

    http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/science/en/

    It's easy to know what is science and what isn't science. This is why we have pseudoscience. It's a method and a process to observe, investigate, record, predict and test that prediction. If it comes up positive over and over and over again then we call it a scientific theory.

    But yeah the Africans did create the calendar and alphabet.
  • Ajackson17
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    @Shizlansky

    So how did you come up with the idea that it took slavery to create the pyramids?

  • Shizlansky
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    @Shizlansky

    So how did you come up with the idea that it took slavery to create the pyramids?

    Just because your a slave don't mean you can't be a mason.

    No smart would willingly work on the pyramids because the extreme danger.

    Slaves was common in Egypt. Just like the rest of the world.
  • Ajackson17
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    @Shizlansky

    So how did you come up with the idea that it took slavery to create the pyramids?

    Just because your a slave don't mean you can't be a mason.

    No smart would willingly work on the pyramids because the extreme danger.

    Slaves was common in Egypt. Just like the rest of the world.

    Masons and architects created what we know as masonic lodges and in the middle kingdom Egypt was closed off and if you did your due diligence and research you would have known they only enslaved prisoners of war. They possibly couldn't have the slave labor necessary to build the great pyramids. There are numerous of records of these workers being paid and it was a seasonal.

    http://www.livescience.com/28961-ancient-giza-pyramid-builders-camp-unearthed.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/pyramid_builders_01.shtml

    Plus, they were buried next to the pyramids which was a great honor. Most of this comes from Herodotus and Hebrew tale.

    You got to back up your claims if you believe slave labor did it when they have writings from the people themselves who built the pyramids.
  • Ajackson17
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    I guess slave labor built the Empire state building too....
  • Melanin_Enriched
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    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.
  • jetlifebih
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    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.

    You gotta understand we are a harmonious people most of the time lol, we dont get down like that, we've been ? robbed murdered and lied to....wasn't a fist fight we just lost lol...and I'm personally not about to rob ? murder and lie just to get back , and ask any cac if they are proud knowing what they did to get where they are and that will tell you exactly why type of person/people you are dealing with
  • Shizlansky
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    jetlifebih wrote: »
    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.

    You gotta understand we are a harmonious people most of the time lol, we dont get down like that, we've been ? robbed murdered and lied to....wasn't a fist fight we just lost lol...and I'm personally not about to rob ? murder and lie just to get back , and ask any cac if they are proud knowing what they did to get where they are and that will tell you exactly why type of person/people you are dealing with

    Wrong.

    Ppl of all color been at each other necks since forever.


    Africa wasn't no just peaceful utopia bruh.
  • Ajackson17
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    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.

    Ego, envy, hating and just being all spooky got us beaten and those were just a few things. Science and math alone can't save you.

    When Europeans came into the land there was a fracture empires, kingdoms, growing new kingdoms and etc. The continent was in not turmoil but unrest and so Europeans did what best and pretended to be friends and have different tribes that had petty differences but increase those differences into all out war. Then traded the captors with the Europeans for weapons and some for alcohol. We lost because we didn't see the European as nothing compared to us and we didn't see the bigger calamity.

    Some did like the mossi kingdoms did but when they fell they were surrounded by Europeans and when they allowed them in for trade within a few years they fallen. This is a very deep deep subject.
  • jetlifebih
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    jetlifebih wrote: »
    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.

    You gotta understand we are a harmonious people most of the time lol, we dont get down like that, we've been ? robbed murdered and lied to....wasn't a fist fight we just lost lol...and I'm personally not about to rob ? murder and lie just to get back , and ask any cac if they are proud knowing what they did to get where they are and that will tell you exactly why type of person/people you are dealing with

    Wrong.

    Ppl of all color been at each other necks since forever.


    Africa wasn't no just peaceful utopia bruh.

    How many world wars we wage? Beyond the continent of Africa how many territories have we conquered or colonized?

    a mother and daughter fight and a father and son fight, cousins too
  • Ajackson17
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    jetlifebih wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    jetlifebih wrote: »
    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.

    You gotta understand we are a harmonious people most of the time lol, we dont get down like that, we've been ? robbed murdered and lied to....wasn't a fist fight we just lost lol...and I'm personally not about to rob ? murder and lie just to get back , and ask any cac if they are proud knowing what they did to get where they are and that will tell you exactly why type of person/people you are dealing with

    Wrong.

    Ppl of all color been at each other necks since forever.


    Africa wasn't no just peaceful utopia bruh.

    How many world wars we wage? Beyond the continent of Africa how many territories have we conquered or colonized?

    a mother and daughter fight and a father and son fight, cousins too

    Eh, there is not much to document on many times they went to war, but the wars were never as extensive to what the ? happened in Europe, Western Asia, and Eastern Asia. Our ancestors had their battles but never to the extent until recent era. I mean hell Kemet and Ta Seti went at it all the time but backed each other up when it came for Asiatics. Even Libya, Put, Axum came into the mix. No one really like Asiatic except the women of course lol
  • Neophyte Wolfgang
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    Get the Euros out of Africa and the Chinese
  • Shizlansky
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    If you don't trace your roots to that part of the world you can't claim something though.

    Everybody wanna be from east Africa when the truth is a lot of us is from west Africa. And it's not the same.
  • Ajackson17
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    If you don't trace your roots to that part of the world you can't claim something though.

    Everybody wanna be from east Africa when the truth is a lot of us is from west Africa. And it's not the same.

    My results show I'm from Benin and Angola. I never said I'm Egyptian they are commonly known as Beja, Oromo, and Habeshas. Very few would be related to them from the west since some did migrate there. But West Africa hand kingdoms and contributed a lot to the world.
  • zzombie
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    jetlifebih wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    jetlifebih wrote: »
    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.

    You gotta understand we are a harmonious people most of the time lol, we dont get down like that, we've been ? robbed murdered and lied to....wasn't a fist fight we just lost lol...and I'm personally not about to rob ? murder and lie just to get back , and ask any cac if they are proud knowing what they did to get where they are and that will tell you exactly why type of person/people you are dealing with

    Wrong.

    Ppl of all color been at each other necks since forever.


    Africa wasn't no just peaceful utopia bruh.

    How many world wars we wage? Beyond the continent of Africa how many territories have we conquered or colonized?

    a mother and daughter fight and a father and son fight, cousins too

    WE DID NOT wage those wars because we never had the power to if we did trust me just like white people did we would have conquered the world.
  • jetlifebih
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    zzombie wrote: »
    jetlifebih wrote: »
    Shizlansky wrote: »
    jetlifebih wrote: »
    So we created math, science, outnumbered them, and we still lost to cave dwellers. Hilarious.

    You gotta understand we are a harmonious people most of the time lol, we dont get down like that, we've been ? robbed murdered and lied to....wasn't a fist fight we just lost lol...and I'm personally not about to rob ? murder and lie just to get back , and ask any cac if they are proud knowing what they did to get where they are and that will tell you exactly why type of person/people you are dealing with

    Wrong.

    Ppl of all color been at each other necks since forever.


    Africa wasn't no just peaceful utopia bruh.

    How many world wars we wage? Beyond the continent of Africa how many territories have we conquered or colonized?

    a mother and daughter fight and a father and son fight, cousins too

    WE DID NOT wage those wars because we never had the power to if we did trust me just like white people did we would have conquered the world.

    I beg to differ, we had the power, we just had no need...we had everything needed for life without leaving the continent, majority of the traders came into the land
  • Ajackson17
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    Malian Empire was superior to that of any power on Europe. They didn't try to conquer other people in that sort.

    Ibn Battuta eye witness accounts give us an idea that answer would be no.
  • HundredEyes
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    There have been many wars between what are now mali n morocco and both conquered lands (like al mansour etc) but it was logistically impossible to maintain due to the part of the sahara that was between both empires.
  • Ajackson17
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    There have been many wars between what are now mali n morocco and both conquered lands (like al mansour etc) but it was logistically impossible to maintain due to the part of the sahara that was between both empires.

    That's definitely true. But

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saadi_dynasty

    It was invasion from outside forces.