Better Center In Their PRIME: Shaquille O'Neal vs Hakeem Olajuwan
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Hakeem the Dream 93-95dalyricalbandit wrote: »Real talk nobody was stopping prime shaq he was making legends look childish
When Shaq came in the league the "legends" had already been in damn near 10 years. And this was back when they had been to college for four years and by then they were in their 30's when he arrived -
Hakeem the Dream 93-95The Dream was a far better defender and re bounder
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Hakeem the Dream 93-95For the record, in the 95 Finals...
Dream: 32.8 PPG (48.3%)-11.5 REB-5.5 AST-2.0 BLK-2.0 STL..11 Turnovers
Diesel: 28.0 PPG (59.5%)-12.5 REB-6.0 AST-2.5 BLK-0.3 STL..22 Turnovers
Shaq had a slightly higher offensive rating (109-107), but Hakeem had a significantly higher defensive rating (106-115). Overall, Hakeem had a 24.5 Game score to Shaq's 21.8. They led each of their teams.
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Hakeem the Dream 93-95Clearly.
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Shaq Diesel 01-03How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
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Shaq Diesel 01-03dallas' 4 eva wrote: »How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
More rebounds assist and blocks. -
Shaq Diesel 01-03Shizlansky wrote: »dallas' 4 eva wrote: »How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
More rebounds assist and blocks.
But Shaq got 'owned'? These ? out of control. -
Hakeem the Dream 93-95The Dream was embarrassing Hall Of Fame players ALL THE TIME
https://youtu.be/hW4uXlRGAF0 -
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Shaq Diesel 01-03dallas' 4 eva wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »
Cool vid, I've seen it, it's impressive, but how is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting while also averaging more rebounds, assists, and blocks getting owned? -
Shaq Diesel 01-03The Dream was killin, but being honest, Shaq in his prime was on Wilt level of dominance. A shame he only won one MVP, cause 01-02 should've been his.
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Hakeem the Dream 93-95The Dream was killin, but being honest, Shaq in his prime was on Wilt level of dominance. A shame he only won one MVP, cause 01-02 should've been his.
you must have your years mixed up !!!
that year Duncan put up 25 and 13 on the best team in the west but even more deserving was J . Kidd who resurrected the Nets that year and led them to finals , he had like 14, 10 and 8 avg. -
dallas' 4 eva wrote: »How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
I'm not saying Shaq got owned, but ya'll cats that only quote stats never see the whole picture. People who say Shaq got owned are usually talking about how Hakeem did him (e.g. outmaneuvering him and scoring in his face). Shaq scored a lot, but if I remember a lot, the way their offense ran, a lot of those those were facilitated by others or had him put in a dominant position. Where as Hakeem typically got the ball and just outworked Shaq for his shots. -
Shaq Diesel 01-03The Lonious Monk wrote: »dallas' 4 eva wrote: »How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
I'm not saying Shaq got owned, but ya'll cats that only quote stats never see the whole picture. People who say Shaq got owned are usually talking about how Hakeem did him (e.g. outmaneuvering him and scoring in his face). Shaq scored a lot, but if I remember a lot, the way their offense ran, a lot of those those were facilitated by others or had him put in a dominant position. Where as Hakeem typically got the ball and just outworked Shaq for his shots.
He made dream shot under 50%
And you acting like Shaq was spoon feed his points. -
Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »dallas' 4 eva wrote: »How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
I'm not saying Shaq got owned, but ya'll cats that only quote stats never see the whole picture. People who say Shaq got owned are usually talking about how Hakeem did him (e.g. outmaneuvering him and scoring in his face). Shaq scored a lot, but if I remember a lot, the way their offense ran, a lot of those those were facilitated by others or had him put in a dominant position. Where as Hakeem typically got the ball and just outworked Shaq for his shots.
He made dream shot under 50%
And you acting like Shaq was spoon feed his points.
Shaq had a higher percentage because he had more dunks. He was bigger and stronger and able to muscle his way in better. Hakeem was actually hitting shots on Shaq. I'm not saying Shaq was a ? out there. I'm just saying that when you watched the games, Hakeem came off looking more skillful than Shaq. Stats alone won't tell you that. -
lmaooo so basically Hakeem had to work harder for his points
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Shaq Diesel 01-03The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »dallas' 4 eva wrote: »How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
I'm not saying Shaq got owned, but ya'll cats that only quote stats never see the whole picture. People who say Shaq got owned are usually talking about how Hakeem did him (e.g. outmaneuvering him and scoring in his face). Shaq scored a lot, but if I remember a lot, the way their offense ran, a lot of those those were facilitated by others or had him put in a dominant position. Where as Hakeem typically got the ball and just outworked Shaq for his shots.
He made dream shot under 50%
And you acting like Shaq was spoon feed his points.
Shaq had a higher percentage because he had more dunks. He was bigger and stronger and able to muscle his way in better. Hakeem was actually hitting shots on Shaq. I'm not saying Shaq was a ? out there. I'm just saying that when you watched the games, Hakeem came off looking more skillful than Shaq. Stats alone won't tell you that.
Skillful?
Who gives a ? how you can score if you're scoring a lot of points.
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Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »dallas' 4 eva wrote: »How is putting up 28ppg on damn near 60% shooting getting owned? Explain this logic to me please.
I'm not saying Shaq got owned, but ya'll cats that only quote stats never see the whole picture. People who say Shaq got owned are usually talking about how Hakeem did him (e.g. outmaneuvering him and scoring in his face). Shaq scored a lot, but if I remember a lot, the way their offense ran, a lot of those those were facilitated by others or had him put in a dominant position. Where as Hakeem typically got the ball and just outworked Shaq for his shots.
He made dream shot under 50%
And you acting like Shaq was spoon feed his points.
Shaq had a higher percentage because he had more dunks. He was bigger and stronger and able to muscle his way in better. Hakeem was actually hitting shots on Shaq. I'm not saying Shaq was a ? out there. I'm just saying that when you watched the games, Hakeem came off looking more skillful than Shaq. Stats alone won't tell you that.
Skillful?
Who gives a ? how you can score if you're scoring a lot of points.
And Olajuwon scored a lot of points, so what is your point? His skill is what allowed him to score the points. Shaq was bigger and stronger so he managed to control down low. He still wasn't able to stop Hakeem though because Hakeem had the skill advantage. -
Hakeem the Dream 93-95Takin nothing away from Shaq cause he was very agile for his size but to me skill > strength and physical advantage. Going by the years of dominance in the polls, the Dream had better competition in the front court overall compared to Shaq too
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Hakeem the Dream 93-95themadlionsfan wrote: »
Watching this video got me in my feelings right now. Lmao. He roasted my boy David -
#1hiphopjunki3 wrote: »themadlionsfan wrote: »
Watching this video got me in my feelings right now. Lmao. He roasted my boy David
Yeah but that video didn't show what was happening on the other side of the court. There must be some clips of David Robinson scoring over Hakeem. -
Hakeem the Dream 93-95For the record Shaq used to ? DRob too, ? I can remember that Sunday afternoon matchup between San An and Orlando it had that heavyweight fight feeling to it, without looking at numbers that's how I remember it
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Shaq Diesel 01-03Hakeem beat Robinson, Ewing and Shaq for back to back titles is legendary having said that. When Shaq reached his Prime Hakeem was already done.
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Hakeem the Dream 93-95Hakeem in the Playoffs: 25.9 PPG (52.8 FG%-71.9 FT%)--11.2 REB--3.2 AST--1.7 STL--3.3 BLK.....39.6 MPG
Shaquille in the Playoffs: 24.3 PPG (56.3 FG%-50.1 FT%)--11.6 REB--2.7 AST--0.5 STL--2.1 BLK.....37.5 MPG -
im a put it this way im starting a squad and i had to pick one of them to play for me in their pime.
give me shaq dude was unguardable