One of the pigs responsible for Freddie Gray's death was acquitted on all charges by a "Black" judge

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  • Dupac
    Dupac Members, Writer Posts: 68,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a lot of people are sayign once the family took the settlement, there wasn't going to be any justice from the courts....
  • leftcoastkev
    leftcoastkev Members Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    had the right to stop Mr. Gray, who had fled them in a high-crime area for no apparent reason.
    This ? ....
    I grew up in a high crime area
    Once your block has been designated by law enforcement as a High crime area = perpetual stop and frisk. Your entire block/area may as well be on parole or probation because once you are in a high crime area they don't need any APPARENT reason to stop and question (or even search you) you as an INDIVIDUAL.
    You can be detained in a high crime area for standing outside watering your grass if the police feel like it. If you walk in the house you are a suspect fleeing police custody/apprehension.
    If police decide to plant anything on you or say you resisted, the deck is already set against you because you're in a high crime area. Because you are in a high crime area, it's likely you were committing a criminal act.
  • Dupac
    Dupac Members, Writer Posts: 68,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this is basically victim blaming....

    they use terms like "high crime area" to justify any and everything they do to its citizens......

    and because the people who live in this area are aware of it, they naturally fear the police...

    so if a police car pulls up and you know that they can do whatever to you and get away with it....you run as anyone who is in fear of their life would do to someone they perceive as a predator...

    there's no way you can get away with "no apparent reason" when you look at the reality of it
  • not_osirus_jenkins
    not_osirus_jenkins Members, Banned Users Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @DWO tell them ? not to burn their own ? up this time. Tell them head downtown and to all of those pretty white neighborhoods.
  • stringer bell
    stringer bell Members Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQbUAFyjXk4

    Freddie Gray's family lawyer calls out Faux News for being racist...
  • ChillaDaKilla
    ChillaDaKilla Members, Banned Users Posts: 7,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Praying and marching won't do it
  • dwade206
    dwade206 Members Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's becoming painfully apparent that black people can't get justice in America, so we'll justice have to settle for vengeance.

    Nation+Islam+Leader+Louis+Farrakhan+Addresses+KlYtyZayiT0l.jpg

    Here we have an other example of black not getting justice. I patiently wait on this talking loud saying absolutely nothing ? to tell what the "or else," part is suppose to be.

    I believe you posted something similar to this ? before. All you're doing is displaying misguided anger. Farrakhan didn't ? the young man. Focus on the opponent, not the easy target.
  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These prosecutors and judges who citizens elect are in a pact with the police office. They will protect each other, even in wrong doings. It's important for blacks to start taking voting serious on a state, city, district and county level.Where empowering these fools.
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    This will continue to happen to us unless we get an economic base. Money talks.
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So who killed Freddi if the people who wrongly arestted him and out him in the back of a van didn't?
  • leftcoastkev
    leftcoastkev Members Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Copper wrote: »
    So who killed Freddi if the people who wrongly arestted him and out him in the back of a van didn't?

    From what I gathered, the co-defendant (arresting officer) who has immunity accepted responsibility for the arrest and stated the officer on trail was not there.

    So the jury found the officer on trail as not guilty.

    2:35-2:50 below
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gG-1ToBlO0
  • r.prince18
    r.prince18 Members Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's crazy seeing all the pro police white people on my Facebook page calling this white cop a hero.
  • bgoat
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    These prosecutors and judges who citizens elect are in a pact with the police office. They will protect each other, even in wrong doings. It's important for blacks to start taking voting serious on a state, city, district and county level.Where empowering these fools.

    Gonna take more than a vote, gonna take money. Everybody else get their agenda taken care of because they come with money. All we come with is a blind vote and that gets us nothing.
  • bgoat
    bgoat Members Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    5th Letter wrote: »
    This will continue to happen to us unless we get an economic base. Money talks.

    All day long. We definitely need an economic base.
  • yellowtapesport
    yellowtapesport Members Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LMAO @ Montgomery Co PD ready to play Big Brother...
  • Dupac
    Dupac Members, Writer Posts: 68,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    apparently the cop that was on trial wasn't the one who cuffed him or placed him in the truck... he was just there, hence why he was acquitted.....

    doesn't mean that the cops who ere actually the ones who cuffed him and didn't secure him are off the hook yet....

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-williams-nero-transcript-20160523-story.html

    WILLIAMS: All right, this court has been asked to render a decision in this matter and will give the information as follows.

    The state has charged the defendant with assault, misconduct in office by corruptly performing an unlawful act, reckless endangerment and misconduct in office by corruptly failing to do an act that is required by the duties of his office.

    In order to convict the defendant of assault, the state must prove that the defendant caused offensive physical contact with Freddie Gray, that the contact was a result of an intentional or reckless act of the defendant, and was not accidental, and that the contact was not legally justified.

    Freddie Gray case: Baltimore Police Officer Edward Nero found not guilty of all charges
    Freddie Gray case: Baltimore Police Officer Edward Nero found not guilty of all charges
    In order to convict the defendant of misconduct in office, the state must prove that the defendant was a public officer, that the defendant acted in his official capacity, and that the defendant corruptly did an unlawful act. For this count the state alleges that the defendant arrested Freddie Gray without probable cause.

    In order to convict the defendant of reckless endangerment, the state must prove that the defendant engaged in conduct that created a substantial risk of death or serious physical injury to another, that a reasonable person would not have engaged in that conduct, and that the defendant acted recklessly.

    Reaction to the verdict in the Officer Nero trial
    Rev. Westley West, attorney Billy Murphy and others react to the verdict in the Officer Edward Nero trial. (Jerry Jackson and Kenneth K. Lam/Baltimore Sun video)
    Finally, in order to convict the defendant of the second count of misconduct in office, the state must prove that the defendant was a public officer, that the defendant acted in his official capacity, and that the defendant corruptly failed to do an act required by the duties of his office. For this count the state alleges that the defendant failed to ensure the safety of Freddie Gray by failing to secure Mr. Gray with a seat belt during the process of Mr. Gray being transported in a police vehicle while he was in police custody.

    The state has a burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt each and every element of the crimes charged. If the state fails to meet that burden for any element of a crime this court is required to find the defendant not guilty of that crime.

    I will discuss each allegation in order.

    Again, the defendant is charged with the crime of assault. In order to convict the defendant of assault the state must prove that the defendant caused offensive physical contact with Freddie Gray. The defendant acknowledges that any unwanted or unwarranted contact can be considered offensive, and the evidence is clear that at no point did Mr. Gray want to be touched by any of the officers.

    Two, that the contact was a result of an intentional or reckless act of the defendant and was not accidental. Clearly when the defendant touched Mr. Gray it was done intentionally, but for reasons that I will soon discuss, I find that it was not reckless but acknowledge that is not the end of the analysis.

    And finally, that the contact was not legally justified.

    In order to assess whether the contact was not legally justified, it is helpful to discuss some of the facts presented at trial. All times mentioned are on the morning of April 12, 2015.

    At 8:40:03, video time stamp 1:15 of Exhibit 41, shows the defendant coming down an alley, and at 8:40:10, video time stamp 1:35, it shows Officer Garrett Miller on foot and the defendant on bike riding over to the area where Mr. Gray is ultimately detained. At 8:40:13, there is a call over KGA [police radio], which is Exhibit 40, where either Miller or the defendant calls out "We got one." Miller testified that he apprehended Mr. Gray and that Mr. Gray gave up without a fight and did not resist. He testified that the defendant did not touch Gray at any time prior to the time Miller approached and detained Gray. By the time Miller cuffed Gray, the defendant was standing to their left at the ramp. While Miller believed that the defendant was ready to assist because they work together, he reiterated that the defendant did not have anything to do with the cuffing and initial detention.

    While Miller detained Mr. Gray at the handicap ramp, he told the defendant to go retrieve Miller's bike, which Miller had left in the court when he got off his bike to chase Mr. Gray. As Exhibit 56 and 41 both show the defendant getting on his bike at 8:40:21, video time stamp 14 seconds and 4:37 respectively, and approximately 20 seconds later, Exhibit 41 shows the defendant walking with two bikes toward the area where he ultimately met with Miller and Mr. Gray. I note that the video does not show Miller and Mr. Gray at the corner at that time. Finally, Exhibit 41 shows Miller walking towards the corner with Mr. Gray at 8:40:52, video time stamp 5:16.

    The state concedes that pursuant to Wardlaw and Terry, that Miller had a right to stop Mr. Gray, but, based on the KGA tape, part of the defendant's statement, and part of Miller's statements referenced at trial, wants this court to find that the defendant was an integral part of the initial detention and subsequent arrest of Mr. Gray. Officer Miller, who testified under a grant of immunity from the state, stated unequivocally while on the stand and under oath that he was the one who detained and handcuffed Mr. Gray, that he was the one who walked Mr. Gray from the handicapped entrance to the wall where the defendant met him after retrieving Officer Miller's bike.

    Mr. Brandon Ross clearly stated that it was not the defendant who was with Mr. Gray initially, but another bike officer. Mr. Ross saw the defendant with two bikes walking towards Mr. Gray and the other officer, and this was after the bike officer cuffed Mr. Gray. There's no value for Brandon Ross to say this because he is not a friend of the defendant. He saw what he saw, and it corroborates the testimony of Miller stating that he and he alone was involved in detaining, cuffing and taking Mr. Gray to the wall to await transport; and it is consistent with the statement of the defendant, where he stated that he went to get the bikes and met Miller and Mr. Gray at the opening of the court. This is corroborated by state's Exhibit 41, which shows the defendant walking with two bikes.

    The testimony that was presented from Miller and the interview with the defendant, where both indicated that "we" handcuffed, is more in line with the habit of Baltimore City Police officers who testify to speak in terms of what was done by the collective, and not necessarily what is done by the individual. Therefore the court does not find that the use of the term "we" implicates the defendant in either participating in the initial detention of Mr. Gray or the subsequent decision to arrest Mr. Gray.

    t.
  • r.prince18
    r.prince18 Members Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    do any of you think only the black officers are gonna get in trouble or are they just gonna give one of the officers a slap on the wrist?
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    violent insurrection is the only answer.


    rip the cancer out.

    ? please. Like we gonna rise up and end police departments lol.
    dwade206 wrote: »
    All you're doing is displaying misguided anger. Farrakhan didn't ? the young man. Focus on the opponent, not the easy target.

    You're missing the point. Which is that ? talk that Revolution!!!!!!! ? online or at a D.C march and then never ever

    ever

    ever

    ever


















    EVER











    ....actually do anything because 99.99999% of ? ain't even close to being revolutionaries. These are regular people with regular lives in a (relatively) stable country, not hardened guerrilla warriors surviving in the mountains of a failed state like Yemen or Syria.

    People read the news, get mad for a sec, do a few retweets......then its back to YouTube, video games, porn, ESPN, and NetFlix.

    You need a society to completely fall the ? apart at the seams in order for it to be truly ripe for a ? insurrection. Where going home and chilling ain't an option because the government already bombed your hometown to rubble and killed your whole family.

    So yeah, I too rolled my eyes at Farrakhan saying "Or Else!". Like ? the only man you've ever been accused of killing is MALCOLM X, foh lol.
  • Kwan Dai
    Kwan Dai Members Posts: 6,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't worry voting will fix all of this. If, we vote and support Blacks in positions of power things will change.
  • mrrealone
    mrrealone Members Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Big surprise.....
  • bgoat
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    DWO wrote: »
    apparently the cop that was on trial wasn't the one who cuffed him or placed him in the truck... he was just there, hence why he was acquitted.....

    doesn't mean that the cops who ere actually the ones who cuffed him and didn't secure him are off the hook yet....

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-williams-nero-transcript-20160523-story.html

    WILLIAMS: All right, this court has been asked to render a decision in this matter and will give the information as follows.

    The state has charged the defendant with assault, misconduct in office by corruptly performing an unlawful act, reckless endangerment and misconduct in office by corruptly failing to do an act that is required by the duties of his office.

    In order to convict the defendant of assault, the state must prove that the defendant caused offensive physical contact with Freddie Gray, that the contact was a result of an intentional or reckless act of the defendant, and was not accidental, and that the contact was not legally justified.

    Freddie Gray case: Baltimore Police Officer Edward Nero found not guilty of all charges
    Freddie Gray case: Baltimore Police Officer Edward Nero found not guilty of all charges
    In order to convict the defendant of misconduct in office, the state must prove that the defendant was a public officer, that the defendant acted in his official capacity, and that the defendant corruptly did an unlawful act. For this count the state alleges that the defendant arrested Freddie Gray without probable cause.

    In order to convict the defendant of reckless endangerment, the state must prove that the defendant engaged in conduct that created a substantial risk of death or serious physical injury to another, that a reasonable person would not have engaged in that conduct, and that the defendant acted recklessly.

    Reaction to the verdict in the Officer Nero trial
    Rev. Westley West, attorney Billy Murphy and others react to the verdict in the Officer Edward Nero trial. (Jerry Jackson and Kenneth K. Lam/Baltimore Sun video)
    Finally, in order to convict the defendant of the second count of misconduct in office, the state must prove that the defendant was a public officer, that the defendant acted in his official capacity, and that the defendant corruptly failed to do an act required by the duties of his office. For this count the state alleges that the defendant failed to ensure the safety of Freddie Gray by failing to secure Mr. Gray with a seat belt during the process of Mr. Gray being transported in a police vehicle while he was in police custody.

    The state has a burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt each and every element of the crimes charged. If the state fails to meet that burden for any element of a crime this court is required to find the defendant not guilty of that crime.

    I will discuss each allegation in order.

    Again, the defendant is charged with the crime of assault. In order to convict the defendant of assault the state must prove that the defendant caused offensive physical contact with Freddie Gray. The defendant acknowledges that any unwanted or unwarranted contact can be considered offensive, and the evidence is clear that at no point did Mr. Gray want to be touched by any of the officers.

    Two, that the contact was a result of an intentional or reckless act of the defendant and was not accidental. Clearly when the defendant touched Mr. Gray it was done intentionally, but for reasons that I will soon discuss, I find that it was not reckless but acknowledge that is not the end of the analysis.

    And finally, that the contact was not legally justified.

    In order to assess whether the contact was not legally justified, it is helpful to discuss some of the facts presented at trial. All times mentioned are on the morning of April 12, 2015.

    At 8:40:03, video time stamp 1:15 of Exhibit 41, shows the defendant coming down an alley, and at 8:40:10, video time stamp 1:35, it shows Officer Garrett Miller on foot and the defendant on bike riding over to the area where Mr. Gray is ultimately detained. At 8:40:13, there is a call over KGA [police radio], which is Exhibit 40, where either Miller or the defendant calls out "We got one." Miller testified that he apprehended Mr. Gray and that Mr. Gray gave up without a fight and did not resist. He testified that the defendant did not touch Gray at any time prior to the time Miller approached and detained Gray. By the time Miller cuffed Gray, the defendant was standing to their left at the ramp. While Miller believed that the defendant was ready to assist because they work together, he reiterated that the defendant did not have anything to do with the cuffing and initial detention.

    While Miller detained Mr. Gray at the handicap ramp, he told the defendant to go retrieve Miller's bike, which Miller had left in the court when he got off his bike to chase Mr. Gray. As Exhibit 56 and 41 both show the defendant getting on his bike at 8:40:21, video time stamp 14 seconds and 4:37 respectively, and approximately 20 seconds later, Exhibit 41 shows the defendant walking with two bikes toward the area where he ultimately met with Miller and Mr. Gray. I note that the video does not show Miller and Mr. Gray at the corner at that time. Finally, Exhibit 41 shows Miller walking towards the corner with Mr. Gray at 8:40:52, video time stamp 5:16.

    The state concedes that pursuant to Wardlaw and Terry, that Miller had a right to stop Mr. Gray, but, based on the KGA tape, part of the defendant's statement, and part of Miller's statements referenced at trial, wants this court to find that the defendant was an integral part of the initial detention and subsequent arrest of Mr. Gray. Officer Miller, who testified under a grant of immunity from the state, stated unequivocally while on the stand and under oath that he was the one who detained and handcuffed Mr. Gray, that he was the one who walked Mr. Gray from the handicapped entrance to the wall where the defendant met him after retrieving Officer Miller's bike.

    Mr. Brandon Ross clearly stated that it was not the defendant who was with Mr. Gray initially, but another bike officer. Mr. Ross saw the defendant with two bikes walking towards Mr. Gray and the other officer, and this was after the bike officer cuffed Mr. Gray. There's no value for Brandon Ross to say this because he is not a friend of the defendant. He saw what he saw, and it corroborates the testimony of Miller stating that he and he alone was involved in detaining, cuffing and taking Mr. Gray to the wall to await transport; and it is consistent with the statement of the defendant, where he stated that he went to get the bikes and met Miller and Mr. Gray at the opening of the court. This is corroborated by state's Exhibit 41, which shows the defendant walking with two bikes.

    The testimony that was presented from Miller and the interview with the defendant, where both indicated that "we" handcuffed, is more in line with the habit of Baltimore City Police officers who testify to speak in terms of what was done by the collective, and not necessarily what is done by the individual. Therefore the court does not find that the use of the term "we" implicates the defendant in either participating in the initial detention of Mr. Gray or the subsequent decision to arrest Mr. Gray.

    t.

    Many times I've seen black people get convicted for doing nothing to stop a crime.
  • Dupac
    Dupac Members, Writer Posts: 68,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    These prosecutors and judges who citizens elect are in a pact with the police office. They will protect each other, even in wrong doings. It's important for blacks to start taking voting serious on a state, city, district and county level.Where empowering these fools.

    the prosecutor in baltimore is under fire for even trying to charge the officers, two of them sued her for this ?
  • Dupac
    Dupac Members, Writer Posts: 68,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kwan Dai wrote: »
    Don't worry voting will fix all of this. If, we vote and support Blacks in positions of power things will change.
    we did, we tried, and now they trying to hang shorty right at city hall...

    i swear i hope she get through this, cuz mosby is a real one, her and her husband.....they both tired of this ? and trying to fix it from the inside, but they need backing....

    the streets love them though
  • LPast
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    DWO wrote: »
    this is basically victim blaming....

    they use terms like "high crime area" to justify any and everything they do to its citizens......

    and because the people who live in this area are aware of it, they naturally fear the police...

    so if a police car pulls up and you know that they can do whatever to you and get away with it....you run as anyone who is in fear of their life would do to someone they perceive as a predator...

    there's no way you can get away with "no apparent reason" when you look at the reality of it

    Are you saying people will start running even if they are not doing anything illegal?