A Chicago pig kills an unarmed Blk 19yo they say he had a gun but no gun was found...

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edited November 2016 in For The Grown & Sexy
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-man-fatally-wounded-by-police-in-west-englewood-20161124-story.html
Search fails to uncover weapon in fatal police-involved shooting in West Englewood

A 19-year-old man was fatally wounded late Wednesday after a police sergeant said the man pointed a gun in his direction, but a grid search Thursday morning failed to uncover a weapon, officials said.

"We were not able to locate a weapon as of yet,''
said Chicago police Superintendent Eddie Johnson, who briefly made remarks about the shooting at a 1 p.m. news conference at headquarters. “We have some missing information in our timeline,’’ Johnson said.

"There are still many unanswered questions.’’

Police, including an Englewood District police sergeant responded at 11:07 p.m. to a battery in progress in the 1400 block of West 65th Street, said Johnson.

The sergeant spotted a man that "matched the description of the offender," in the battery, Johnson said. The sergeant identified himself as an officer and approached the man but he began running away. The sergeant gave chase.

At some point during the pursuit the man "turned and pointed" a weapon at the sergeant two separate times, causing the sergeant to shoot him, Johnson said.


The man, identified by his family as Kajuan Raye, was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center, where he was later pronounced dead.

“Unfortunatley, we still don’t have a complete synopsis of exactly how and what transpired,’’ Johnson told reporters.

"There is still a lot of investigating going on."

A grid search for ballistics evidence of the area was completed overnight but no gun was found, Johnson said.

There weren't any officers injured during the incident.

Early Thursday, police blocked off the intersection of 65th Street and Marshfield Avenue along with surrounding alleys. Officers searched vacant lots using rakes and flashlights. An officer with a K-9 could be seen searching a parking lot near the intersection.

The Independent Police Review Authority is investigating the shooting.

IPRA spokeswoman Mia Sissac said the Englewood District does not have body cameras, so investigators are looking for witnesses that may have seen the incident or may have captured it on video.

“We would hope that people would allow for some time. As we continue to go through the process we will learn more about the case,” Sissac said.

The sergeant will be placed on administrative duties for 30 days pending the outcome of the investigation.

Community activists also spoke to reporters outside police headquarters, and decried what they said was a lack of transparency in the Police Department.

"I'm sickened," said Ja’Mal Green. "It does not take a day to find a gun. They (cops) messed up.

"Right now the city has to pay for what it has done," Green said.


Ald. Raymond Lopez, who represents the 15th Ward, where the shooting occurred, was also at police headquarters.

"It's just sad," Lopez said.

According to Cook County court records, Raye had pleaded guilty to a theft charge in September 2015, and he was given one year of court supervision. In 2016, records show Raye violated supervision and an arrest warrant was issued in his name July 25.

Standing outside of a family home in the Brainerd neighborhood Thursday morning, Ahkeya White said the family was told that her cousin, Raye, had been standing with a friend at a bus stop near the intersection of 64th Street and Ashland Avenue just before the shooting happened.

The bus stop is less than half a mile away from where police said the sergeant had responded for the battery call.

After spending time at a home of a friend's mother, White said her cousin was waiting for a bus to return to Dolton when the officer approached him.

"They are saying that it was, you know, a battery, but if that's the case, the police officer showed up, it was only one person in the car," she said. "If they are responding to a call, why is it only one person in the car? Then you pull up to the bus stop. So something is off and we need answers."

She said the officer got out of his car and told his cousin and friend to go to the police car. That's when her cousin and friend ran from the officer, prompting the sergeant to run after her cousin.

Raye was shot once in the abdomen, White said.

She disputes that her cousin was armed during the incident, saying she is sure Raye didn't have a gun.

"There was no gun," she said.

As news began spreading about the shooting and relatives gathered at the hospital, White said she wondered why the shooting happened.

"Why, because I know he didn't do anything to deserve it," she said. "We want answers, but there's really no explanation for what happened other than this is what's been going on, and it seems, you know, that this is the norm. But it's unacceptable, it's unacceptable."

She described her cousin as a typical 19-year-old who was figuring out what he wanted to do. The family had been urging him to return to school to get his GED.

"Tears are flowing and we are praying," she said. "We'll miss him greatly."


Wednesday's shooting happened about a mile from where officers last Friday fatally shot a man after seeing him shoot and wound another man, according to officials.


That kid must've had one those imaginary guns.. That all unarmed black men who've been killed by the pigs.. Supposedly have in their possession right before they are shot and killed.. SMDH...

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  • Trillfate
    Trillfate Members Posts: 24,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "He had a gun" "He fit the description" "i feared for my life"

    License to ?
  • obnoxiouslyfresh
    obnoxiouslyfresh Members Posts: 11,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chicago police have killed 3 people this week.
  • Neophyte Wolfgang
    Neophyte Wolfgang Members Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1 was justfied as far as the "story" went though. They caught one dude shooting 2 people and killed 1 of them
  • stringer bell
    stringer bell Members Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://wgntv.com/2016/11/25/still-no-gun-found-after-fatal-police-shooting-in-chicagos-west-englewood/
    Still no gun found after fatal police shooting in Chicago’s West Englewood

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    They're still looking for the "gun"…
  • stringer bell
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    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/man-shot-by-chicago-police-sgt-died-from-gunshot-wound-to-back/
    Man shot by Chicago police sgt. died from gunshot wound to back

    A 19-year-old man fatally shot by a Chicago police sergeant died from a gunshot wound to his back, the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office said Friday.

    Chicago Police Supt. Eddie Johnson said Thursday at a news conference that the officer shot Kajuan Raye Wednesday night after Raye twice turned and pointed a gun at him during a foot chase.

    As of Thursday, Johnson said officers had not found the gun Raye pointed, and a police spokesperson referred a reporter to Johnson’s statement when asked if there were any updates on finding any gun.

    The failure to find a gun has raised questions among friends and family of Raye about the shooting.

    Smh again...
  • stringer bell
    stringer bell Members Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-cpd-superintendent-johnson-takes-most-serious-disciplinary-action-against-officer-who-shot-killed-te-20161126-story.html
    CPD Superintendent Johnson takes most serious disciplinary action against officer who shot, killed teen

    Chicago police on Saturday took the most serious action possible against an officer believed to have shot and killed a 19-year-old in West Englewood.

    In a statement regarding the Wednesday shooting of Kajuan Raye, who so far appears to have been unarmed, spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said Superintendent Eddie Johnson "has relieved the involved officer of his police powers."

    "Having been a police officer for 28 years, I know that this job is not easy and the decision to use force is extremely complex and must be made in seconds without the benefits of formal reviews and deliberations," Johnson said. "However, based on the little information we know at this point, I have concerns about this incident and feel this decision is in the best interest of the Department and the people of Chicago as we await a methodical and impartial investigation into exactly what transpired.”

    Raye, of south suburban Dolton, died of a gunshot wound to the back
    , according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

    Raye’s death was ruled a homicide, the office said.

    Although the unnamed officer who was involved said the teen pointed a gun at him, during a Thanksgiving Day news conference, Chicago police Johnson said a grid search failed to uncover a gun.

    "We were not able to locate a weapon as of yet," said Johnson, who briefly made remarks at police headquarters on the South Side. “We have some missing information in our timeline.

    Guglielmi reiterated the missing information in the department's chronology of events and said relieving an officer of police powers is the most serious action the Department can take during an open investigation.

    "After considerable deliberation over the evidence and available facts including: preliminary information from detectives; the unsuccessful canvass for a weapon; and last night's preliminary findings from the Medical Examiner, Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson has relieved the involved officer of his police powers pending the completion of IPRA's case."


    It wasn't immediately known how often such measures have been taken in the past, however, standard procedure calls for an officer to be placed on administrative duty during the investigation.

    Police, including an Englewood District police sergeant, responded at 11:07 p.m. to a battery in progress in the 1400 block of West 65th Street, Johnson said.

    The sergeant spotted a man that "matched the description of the offender" in the battery, Johnson said. The sergeant identified himself as an officer and approached the man but he began running away. The sergeant gave chase.

    At some point during the pursuit the man "turned and pointed" a weapon at the sergeant two separate times, causing the sergeant to shoot him, Johnson said.

    Raye was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where he was later pronounced dead at 11:51 p.m. He lived in the 1400 block of East 156th Street in Dolton, according to the medical examiner's office.

    “Unfortunately, we still don’t have a complete synopsis of exactly how and what transpired," Johnson told reporters.

    "There is still a lot of investigating going on."

    There weren't any officers injured during the incident.

    Early Thursday, police blocked off the intersection of 65th Street and Marshfield Avenue along with surrounding alleys. Officers searched vacant lots using rakes and flashlights. An officer with a police dog could be seen searching a parking lot near the intersection.

    The Independent Police Review Authority is investigating the shooting.

    IPRA spokeswoman Mia Sissac said the Englewood District does not have body cameras
    , so investigators are looking for witnesses that may have seen the incident or may have captured it on video.

    Well it looks like since they couldn't find the imagery "gun".. The police narrative was falling apart so the pig brass decided to get ahead of the story.. And somewhat throw that murderous pig sergeant slightly under bus.. Before the weak ass media would've started to ask softball questions of why the story about the "gun" didn't add up...
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wait... How'd bruh get shot in the back if he aimed the "gun" at the pig!?
  • WhoisDonG???
    WhoisDonG??? Members Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They murdered that young man. These cops scary as hell out here. If you scared to die out here find a new job.
  • Trillfate
    Trillfate Members Posts: 24,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wait... How'd bruh get shot in the back if he aimed the "gun" at the pig!?

    Word. He just followed the pig playbook of weak lies and excuses

    Lying on police reports should be a crime in itself
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's that one movie with Common and Morgan Freeman (I think) where they could manipulate the directions their bullets flew? Maybe that's what happened.
  • 1CK1S
    1CK1S Members Posts: 27,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's that one movie with Common and Morgan Freeman (I think) where they could manipulate the directions their bullets flew? Maybe that's what happened.

    Wanted
  • stringer bell
    stringer bell Members Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-shooting-lawsuit-met-20161129-story.html
    Chicago cop sued in fatal shooting was involved in another death in 2013

    The mother of a teen slain last week in a controversial Chicago police shooting filed a federal lawsuit Tuesday that alleges the officer used "unjustified and excessive use of force."

    The officer — identified in the lawsuit as Sgt. John Poulos — was involved in another fatal shooting three years ago, court records show.

    In the latest incident, the sergeant alleged that 19-year-old Kajuan Raye pointed a weapon at him twice during a foot chase Wednesday in the West Englewood neighborhood, police have said. But police never found a weapon despite a thorough search of the area. Raye was shot in the back, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

    No gun was recovered either in the 2013 shooting involving Poulos, according to court records.


    Police have not named Poulos as the sergeant involved in Raye's shooting, but on Saturday, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson stripped the sergeant of his police powers, saying, "I have concerns about this incident."

    Poulos, assigned to the Englewood police district, had responded to a call of a battery in progress in the 1400 block of West 65th Street when the shooting took place after 11 p.m. Wednesday, according to police.

    In the 2013 shooting, authorities have said Poulos saw 28-year-old Rickey Rozelle, a convicted felon, in a dark gangway by a vacant apartment building near Armitage and Lincoln avenues. Poulos asked Rozelle to show his hands, but Rozelle ignored him, authorities said. Rozelle then grabbed at his waistband, and Poulos shot him, authorities said. No gun was recovered from him.

    The Independent Police Review Authority, much maligned in recent years for its investigations of shootings involving police officers, cleared Poulos of wrongdoing.


    After giving a speech Tuesday morning on proposed changes to the department's use-of-force policy, Johnson, without identifying Poulos by name, said the sergeant's connection to the two shootings did not factor into his decision to relieve him of his police powers.

    "Each incident has to stand on its own individual merit," Johnson said.

    http://abc7chicago.com/news/family-files-federal-lawsuit-over-fatal-police-shooting/1631132/
    It is the second time in less than three years that Poulos has shot and killed a suspect. In 2013, he was off duty when he confronted Rickey Rozelle as he allegedly tried to break into a vacant apartment.

    Investigators never found a gun near Rozelle. The shooting was determined to be "justified" by the Independent Police Review Authority, though Rozelle's family has also filed a lawsuit.

    "It's something that I think is unprecedented. You have the same police officer in three years' time, shooting two unarmed black men in the city of Chicago. What are the odds?" said Michael Goode, Rozelle's attorney.

    In the latest case, Poulos told investigators Raye was running away and had his hand on a shiny object he thought was a gun.

    "They shot him in the back when he was running away. We're all scared. If a police officer approached me, I'm gonna run, too," said Ja'Mal Green, an activist.

    Supt. Johnson said that for now, he's going to let IPRA investigate and determine what happened.

    "I just think each case should stand on its own merits and again, I'll wait until IPRA does its thorough investigation and we'll go from there," Johnson said.

    The family is also asking the state's attorney to file criminal charges against the officer.

    Sgt. Poulous declined to comment and referred questions to the Chicago Police Department's Office of News Affairs.

    This is 2nd time this swine has killed a young black man and the 2nd time he used the "He went for a gun"/"He had a gun on him" excuse...
  • D. Morgan
    D. Morgan Members Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They murdered that young man. These cops scary as hell out here. If you scared to die out here find a new job.

    LLS the police ain't scared thats just what they want you to believe to keep getting public sympathy for the murders they keep committing and getting away with.

    What makes you really think they are scared?
  • D. Morgan
    D. Morgan Members Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So was the young man actually the person involved in the battery call or not?

    Not that it has any bearing on him being murdered just want to know.
  • TheNuttinProffessor
    TheNuttinProffessor Members Posts: 460 ✭✭✭✭
    D. Morgan wrote: »
    They murdered that young man. These cops scary as hell out here. If you scared to die out here find a new job.

    LLS the police ain't scared thats just what they want you to believe to keep getting public sympathy for the murders they keep committing and getting away with.

    What makes you really think they are scared?

    Naw man they be real life scared for their lives. Not all of em but a good majority.

    They be shaking and ? . Reaching for that get back everytime you breathe. Them ? ?
  • stringer bell
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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-kajuan-raye-shooting-video-met-20170123-story.html
    IPRA releases videos of foot chase leading to teen's shooting death by cop

    A black-and-white surveillance video released by the Independent Police Review Authority Monday night shows 19-year-old Kajuan Raye sprinting away from an Englewood District police sergeant before the officer fatally shot the teenager in November.

    The videos, taken from three different cameras, show Raye standing at a street corner when a squad car pulls up to him. Raye, wearing a hoodie, takes off running and the officer exits the car and chases him. The officer, identified in IPRA documents and a lawsuit as Sgt. John Poulos, was responding to a battery call and thought Raye matched the description of the attacker.

    As the men are running through an alley, an officer involved in the chase radios to dispatch in audio also released Monday, "Shots fired by police, he's got a gun!"

    Breathless, he continues, "Two shots fired by police!"

    Soon after an officer radios to dispatch that a weapon for the offender was located. The dispatcher's follow up questions about the weapon, however, are not answered.


    The videos and hours of recordings of radio traffic between police and the city's Office of Emergency Management and Communications were among a slew of files and reports released by IPRA, which is investigating Raye's Nov. 23 death. There was not video of the shooting itself nor a written description of what happened.

    Raye, of south suburban Dolton, died of a gunshot wound to the back, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

    Poulos marked in his reports that Raye had a gun, but police have said since the shooting that no gun was recovered at the scene, a vacant lot near the intersection of 65th Street and Marshfield Avenue.

    Polous was standing when he opened fire and using bushes as a protective shield, according to a report he filled out the night of the shooting. In the same report, Poulos wrote that Raye was armed and did not follow verbal commands. Poulos wrote that Raye had a semi-automatic weapon and he had the officer at gunpoint..

    In a news conference on Thanksgiving, the day after the shooting, Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said he was told that Raye turned during the pursuit and pointed a weapon at the sergeant two separate times, causing Poulos to shoot him. Johnson said on Thanksgiving that no gun had been found, and none has been located since then.

    By policy, Chicago police have not named the officer, but a lawsuit filed the week after the shooting by Raye's mother identified him as Poulos and alleged an "unjustified and excessive use of force."


    The weekend after Raye was shot, Johnson relieved Poulos of his police powers pending the outcome of IPRA's investigation, saying he had "concerns about this incident" -- the most serious action he could take against the officer. Raye's family said the man was standing with a friend at a bus stop near 64th Street and Ashland Avenue just before the shooting happened. The stop is less than half a mile away from where police said the sergeant had responded for the battery call.

    Poulos also is facing a lawsuit in the 2013 shooting of Rickey Rozelle, 28, who shot after a confrontation in which Poulos told investigators he saw Rozelle holding a shiny object near his waist that Poulos thought was weapon.

    Only a chrome-colored watch was found, according to the IPRA, which cleared Poulos of wrongdoing.

    Smh...
  • stringer bell
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    https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170124/west-englewood/kajuan-raye-video-shooting-killed-police-shooting
    Raye was unarmed at the time he was killed, according to investigators.

    None of the three videos released by the police review authority shows the shooting, nor does the video show Raye turning toward the officer. Poulos told investigators Raye twice turned and appeared to point a gun at him before he opened fire, officials said.

    An investigation by the U.S. Justice Department released Jan. 13 found the Police Department routinely violated the civil rights of residents by using excessive force caused by poor training and nonexistent supervision.

    In the 161-page report, federal officials singled out the shooting by Poulos, the second time in three years he fatally shot an unarmed suspect.

    Had the Police Department implemented an early warning system to flag officers who had been the subject of serious complaints, the November 2016 shooting may not have occurred, according to the report.

    Such a system "exists in name only" despite significant time and resources spent to create a way to track officers who exhibit "problematic behavior," according to the report.

    In 2004, the Police Department's bureau of internal affairs investigated Poulos for violating a rule that bars police employees from owning businesses that sell alcohol, according to the report.

    After the investigation began, Poulos went on disability leave, and the probe languished, according to the report. In 2011, the officer returned to the Police Department.

    In 2013, Poulos was on his way home from his family’s bar when he saw a “suspected burglar on the rear porch of a neighboring second-floor apartment being rehabbed,” the Tribune reported.

    Poulos said he hit 28-year-old Rickey Rozelle on the head with the butt of his revolver after Rozelle, a convicted felon, threatened to ? him and lunged at him while refusing to show his hands, the Tribune reported.

    Rozelle was shot twice and killed. A weapon was never found, according to the police review authority, only a watch. Poulos was cleared by the police review authority. A lawsuit was filed against Poulos by Rozelle's family and still is pending.

    Despite the complaint — and the shooting — Poulos was promoted to sergeant based on the recommendation of a Police Department official.

    Johnson has ordered "an audit of why the 2004 complaint was never investigated to completion," according to the federal report. The audit will be conducted by internal affairs — the same agency that lost track of the complaint after it was filed, the report adds.