Tariq Nasheed is Going to Be on Fox News At 7:00 Today (11/29/16)
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maybe i missed it, but i didnt read anywhere here where dudes was "mad" he making money
again, dudes being distracted from the topic at hand
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ineedpussy wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »didnt understand the tweet when i first read it and he did a terrible job getting his point across
seemed like he was beating around the bush or even back tracking if anything....this is fox news, its not hard to make them look bad
more like backtracking..
he knew what the ? he meant..
he got called on his ? on national tv..
? need to learn when to pick they battles...
that AND DEFINITELY dont throw stones and hide yo hands..
thats ? ? ..
"i was bein vague" <--- ? ? as well..
some ? on here claim the bold isn't good strategy. They'd rather just fire at any and everything moving instead of understanding every battle ain't for everyone if you don't have a certain skillet to win said battle. You got to know your own limitations when you trying to fight this ? and know when to tag in somebody who is more knowledgeable and able to take that stance better than you can
not to go off topic but does the bolded apply to gettin at the "pretty" women?
That applies to all areas of life period
Edit...or as the great Martin Payne said "The man who sleeps on the floor can't fall out of bed" aka stay in your lane.... -
ineedpussy wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »didnt understand the tweet when i first read it and he did a terrible job getting his point across
seemed like he was beating around the bush or even back tracking if anything....this is fox news, its not hard to make them look bad
more like backtracking..
he knew what the ? he meant..
he got called on his ? on national tv..
? need to learn when to pick they battles...
that AND DEFINITELY dont throw stones and hide yo hands..
thats ? ? ..
"i was bein vague" <--- ? ? as well..
some ? on here claim the bold isn't good strategy. They'd rather just fire at any and everything moving instead of understanding every battle ain't for everyone if you don't have a certain skillet to win said battle. You got to know your own limitations when you trying to fight this ? and know when to tag in somebody who is more knowledgeable and able to take that stance better than you can
not to go off topic but does the bolded apply to gettin at the "pretty" women?
That applies to all areas of life period
Edit...or as the great Martin Payne said "The man who sleeps on the floor can't fall out of bed" aka stay in your lane....
but then doesnt that mean that youre "settling"? and i could be wrong but that quote marty mart sounds more like if you stay ready you dont have to get ready. once again i could be wrong so correct me if thats the case. -
Damn Tariq... You went on tv and dropped the ball smmfh! ? on there so focused on trying to make Tucker look stupid but he came off looking pretty bad here. Maybe Tariq would've won if this was a twitter battle.
Tariq don't feel like he lost. If you play his show from 29th minute to the 39th he break down why Tucker lost
http://www.tariqradio.com/uploads/2/4/4/7/24470289/tariqradio159.mp3 -
Lol @ him calling Fox the race casino
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Knock_Twice wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
How is he pimping ppl's pain?
Dude made some cool documentaries that IMO I think every black person/child should see.
Dude spits knowledge, granted some of the ? you have to decipher on your own and that's with anything and everybody.
I mean how much do you think this ? is making breh Lol 2,000 (if he charges that) to speak at a spot which he rarely does.
Hell they charge 300-600 to purchase a ticket for somebody to tell you how to flip a house etc or any other seminar.
I'm just trying to get the whole, I guess how he's making money off of this ? , other than speaking at events which dude rarely does.
I know them boots aint selling lol
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL,yo I got so much respect for Tariq, when i went to the website
to look at the gear i was like WTF, that ? took some Walmart boots and put a King Flex logo on it LMAO,but
props to Tariq forever everybody check out Hidden Colors 1 to 4 -
Wait..............Tucker Carlson is back on TV?
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Damn Tariq... You went on tv and dropped the ball smmfh! ? on there so focused on trying to make Tucker look stupid but he came off looking pretty bad here. Maybe Tariq would've won if this was a twitter battle.
Tariq don't feel like he lost. If you play his show from 29th minute to the 39th he break down why Tucker lost
http://www.tariqradio.com/uploads/2/4/4/7/24470289/tariqradio159.mp3
Idk. I took the content of Tariq's show as retrospective damage control.
This wasn't Tariq's best debate/interview performance. But you're bound to not be at your best eventually.
To me.....Tariq is pretty nimble when it comes to verbal sparring but this time he was too anxious to respond and it came off as being flustered and agitated. However I know that time (and time to make your point ) is limited during those segments. Should have taken more deep breaths and approached a little more calculated.
It's hard to win those away games on Fox because they IMMEDIATELY literally frame you visually (with the banners of their pre-judice) and verbally with the opening statement so the guest starts on the defense out the gate. But it's all done to pander to what their core (racist) audience already believes.
He did level them with the race casino line tho.
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Knock_Twice wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »
How is he pimping ppl's pain?
Dude made some cool documentaries that IMO I think every black person/child should see.
Dude spits knowledge, granted some of the ? you have to decipher on your own and that's with anything and everybody.
I mean how much do you think this ? is making breh Lol 2,000 (if he charges that) to speak at a spot which he rarely does.
Hell they charge 300-600 to purchase a ticket for somebody to tell you how to flip a house etc or any other seminar.
I'm just trying to get the whole, I guess how he's making money off of this ? , other than speaking at events which dude rarely does.
I know them boots aint selling lol
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL,yo I got so much respect for Tariq, when i went to the website
to look at the gear i was like WTF, that ? took some Walmart boots and put a King Flex logo on it LMAO,but
props to Tariq forever everybody check out Hidden Colors 1 to 4
Lmaoo pics? -
EmM HoLLa. wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »only thing i took from this is them sayin he was basically livin EXCLUSIVELY off tax payers money..
even paying his college tuition..
but let ? like @zzombie tell it America aint givin ? to black immigrants..
like i say all the time..
America aint for Americans.. immigrants come over here and get set up and then wanna have nerve to look down on us as if we aint the ones bein kept down..
Gotta call you on this one my brother.. My parents immigrated from Africa here.. I grew up in the hood with a bunch of cats who didn't take life seriously. I have all the respect in the world for you.. Cuz you take life seriously.. You out here getting to it.. There are a lot of black Americans out here who don't have the same outlook on life as you have.. Who are not tenacious and therefore stuck in the madd.. We acknowledge systemic racism. It affects us all.. American's and immigrants.. But some folks use it as an excuse not to get to it.. And that's wrong.. The circumstances are what they are.. Gotta try to make it despite them.. At least thats my point of view on things..
To your point immigrants or anyone for that matter shouldn't be looking down on black americans because it is on their backs that this country is the super power it is.. Without them. The world would be very different..
There's a lotta ppl in this country like that period... not just blk Americans.
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Swiffness! wrote: »Wait..............Tucker Carlson is back on TV?
Lmao
I think he's been on Fox since he left CNN. -
Damn Tariq... You went on tv and dropped the ball smmfh! ? on there so focused on trying to make Tucker look stupid but he came off looking pretty bad here. Maybe Tariq would've won if this was a twitter battle.
Tariq don't feel like he lost. If you play his show from 29th minute to the 39th he break down why Tucker lost
http://www.tariqradio.com/uploads/2/4/4/7/24470289/tariqradio159.mp3
Well It wouldn't be "mackalicious" for someone like Tariq to publicly admit he was "out shined" by a peckerwood Poindexter like Tucker Carson, now would it?
Who by all rights should have been light work.
IMO Tariq "loss it" as soon as he stumbled back peddling and back tracking on his tweet.
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Somebody is going to have to explain to me how Flex took a "l," especially considering the fact on Flex's Tariq Elite Radio Show we only got 6 minutes of what was supposed to be a 15 minute segment.
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I'm trying to understand how he took an "L" too.
Most ppl that go on that show are in that same state. I can recall D.L Hughley, several other black dudes being cut off at times and their statements being ran over by those host.
I mean why would they do him any different. When you're the host, especially a white host like dude is, you're supposed to jump down on your counterpart like that. If it was anybody else beside Tariq, they would have gotten the same treatment IMO. They did Malcolm X the same thing..shruggs -
ineedpussy wrote: »ineedpussy wrote: »BOSSExcellence wrote: »didnt understand the tweet when i first read it and he did a terrible job getting his point across
seemed like he was beating around the bush or even back tracking if anything....this is fox news, its not hard to make them look bad
more like backtracking..
he knew what the ? he meant..
he got called on his ? on national tv..
? need to learn when to pick they battles...
that AND DEFINITELY dont throw stones and hide yo hands..
thats ? ? ..
"i was bein vague" <--- ? ? as well..
some ? on here claim the bold isn't good strategy. They'd rather just fire at any and everything moving instead of understanding every battle ain't for everyone if you don't have a certain skillet to win said battle. You got to know your own limitations when you trying to fight this ? and know when to tag in somebody who is more knowledgeable and able to take that stance better than you can
not to go off topic but does the bolded apply to gettin at the "pretty" women?
That applies to all areas of life period
Edit...or as the great Martin Payne said "The man who sleeps on the floor can't fall out of bed" aka stay in your lane....
but then doesnt that mean that youre "settling"? and i could be wrong but that quote marty mart sounds more like if you stay ready you dont have to get ready. once again i could be wrong so correct me if thats the case.
Nah it's only settling if you don't seek to improve on those short comings or reach out to someone who is more adept at handling that specific issue. Settling is just accepting without a fight. Knowing where you come up short and seeking to close that gap through other means isn't settling at all. And the quote is about staying in your lane. Sleeping on the floor as opposed to falling out of bed which can be said as someone who tries to jump out there when they're not ready to handle something falling flat on their face...this quote works too "The dog that jumps in the water loses the bone that's in his mouth" also from the book of Marty Mart Season 3 Episode 1 lol -
1st of all, it wasn't a debate. ? was 6 minutes.
I think Tariq handled himself well, called out the media for their ? . Left Tucker the ? speechless at one point and making ? up at other points. Even proved some of the fuckery that Fox and other media use to lump all black people into the same group live during the show. -
lmao, next time I see a thread about a black pastor, Imma bring this thread up since hustling the race is cool with you ? now
"he getting money tho"
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CashmoneyDux wrote: »lmao, next time I see a thread about a black pastor, Imma bring this thread up since hustling the race is cool with you ? now
"he getting money tho"
FOH
How is he hustling the race??
Noone can explain how he's hustling black folks and how he's making x amount of money.
How money do ? think he's making off this ? ??? -
Taken
From what I'm gathering, Ppl is actually agreeing with the arguments presented by the FOX host in the debate that...
That Tariq's podcasts is the most racist thing he's listened to, while being a representative of FOX News who dedicate their entire program towards criminalizing blacks
That by reporting racism suffered by blacks at the hands of white that Tariq is inciting racial hatred (that reverse racism bullshyt)
Claiming that we DO NOT live in a white supremacist country
Claiming that because America is "multi-ethnic" that racial discrimination no longer exists, especially in regards to whites oppressing blacks
Lying and claiming that people did not add a racial component to the event, when Tariq proved the contrary as people were on Twitter blaming "BLM" and "Black Muslims"
but because it's Tariq nikkas is out here claiming that he lost the debate, despite the host spewing that white supremacist filth out his mouth?
Is your hatred for Tariq that deeply ingrained that you choose to throw out all logic and co-opt and co-sign white supremacist rhetoric?[/QUOTE]
Nobody can explain how tucker won, nobody will even attempt to.
Tariq SEEMED a little impatient and agitated but after you factor in the time delay of the feed, along with the hostility of the host, you'd have to excuse SOME of that. That time delay makes you look crazy as hell in lively debateShruggs -
I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.
CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?
Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.
this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.
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Knock_Twice wrote: »CashmoneyDux wrote: »lmao, next time I see a thread about a black pastor, Imma bring this thread up since hustling the race is cool with you ? now
"he getting money tho"
FOH
How is he hustling the race??
Noone can explain how he's hustling black folks and how he's making x amount of money.
How money do ? think he's making off this ? ???
Already been explained -
That's probably these debate ? saying he lost/won. Whoever has the most convincing presentation wins by their logic, it dont matter what the person is saying. A contest of bullshitters.
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semi-auto-mato wrote: »I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.
CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?
Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.
this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.
? ? ass.
The bolded. How is doing the job that you're sworn to do in anyway remotely heroic? I need somebody to explain to me where is the heroism in subduing a knife wielding suspect by shooting him when you have on a vest. Hell I would daresay the act is not even courageous. Here's an act of heroism on the part of law enforcement and you can plainly see the difference.
Intervening After Robbery, an Off-Duty A.T.F. Agent Is Killed
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/nyregion/off-duty-atf-officer-is-killed-intervening-after-robbery.html
By AL BAKER and TIM STELLOHDEC. 31, 2011
An off-duty special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was fatally shot on Saturday afternoon when he, along with at least one other law enforcement officer and a retired officer, tried to stop a robber who had just held up a pharmacy on Long Island, the authorities said.
The apparent robber was also killed.
Details of the shooting, which occurred outside Charlie’s Family Pharmacy on Merrick Road in Seaford, remained murky on Saturday night as the authorities seemed unsure how it unfolded and who fired the fatal shots.
Senior Special Agent John Capano, an explosives specialist who was in his 40s, had been a special agent for 23 years, said Joe Anarumo, a special agent with the bureau.
“Today, doing his job in an off-duty capacity, he intervened in an armed robbery and subsequently was shot,” Special Agent Anarumo said, adding, “He is a hero.”
Joseph G. Green, a spokesman for the New York office of the bureau, said he had worked closely with Special Agent Capano in the early 1990s when they were assigned to a joint firearms task force with the New York Police Department.
“It is a sad and tragic way to end the year,” Mr. Green said. “Over time, he became a certified explosives expert for A.T.F. who oversaw and assisted in conducting explosives training for law enforcement here in the United States, but also volunteered to travel overseas to Afghanistan and Iraq as part of A.T.F.’s explosives training for our troops in the military and police in those countries.”
Special Agent Capano was married, lived on Long Island and had two children, a daughter who is in high school and a son who is in college. His father is a retired law enforcement officer, Mr. Green added.
It was just before 2 p.m. on Saturday when a man walked into the drugstore, said Officer Maureen Roach, a Nassau County police spokeswoman. She did not say if the man was armed.
“He was demanding OxyContin and cash,” said Lt. Kevin Smith of the Nassau County police, adding that he did not know how much was stolen.
There were customers in the store at the time of the robbery, Lieutenant Smith said, though he said he did not know how many.
A law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was unresolved, said the preliminary accounts indicated that after the man left the pharmacy, he went to a parking lot, and people pointed him out as the possible robber. Special Agent Capano then confronted the man.
Somehow in the struggle between Special Agent Capano and the robbery suspect shots were fired, “and that is when the agent is shot,” the official said.
Next door to the pharmacy is a deli that, according to the official, was believed to be owned by a retired Nassau County police officer or detective. Some people from the pharmacy ran into the deli and told the people there what had happened. Also in the deli was an off-duty member of the New York Police Department, the official said.
“They come out and see these guys struggling,” the official said.
The official said it was believed that either the retired Nassau officer or the off-duty New York officer shot at the struggling men. The suspect was hit by gunshots and was fatally wounded.
It is not clear if Special Agent Capano was shot then or if he had been wounded in the struggle with the suspect. He was taken to Nassau University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
Ryan Lecertosa, 24, was on his way home when he drove past the pharmacy Saturday afternoon and heard several gunshots. He said he saw a large man in front of the shop with a blood-soaked shirt.
“He was holding his chest, and then he collapsed,” Mr. Lecertosa said, adding that the man was instantly surrounded by about six people.
As the authorities try to establish just what happened, they will have to collect whatever guns were present, and try to figure out who fired, and how many shots. They will check the ballistics. Autopsies will be performed. Among the questions will be what bullets caused what wounds. Eyewitness accounts will be gathered, as well as any admissions made spontaneously, if they were.
Asked for details about the shooting and whether New York police officers were somehow involved, Detective Brian Sessa, a New York Police Department spokesman, said: “We are looking into it. It is not our investigation; it is Nassau County’s investigation. We’re looking into it.”
The episode aroused memories of the shooting deaths last June of four people inside a pharmacy in Medford, N.Y., several miles east of Seaford, in Suffolk County. The killer, David S. Laffer, 33, pleaded guilty in September to first-degree murder. After killing the four — a pharmacist, a clerk who was still in high school and two customers — he fled the store with thousands of pain pills.
That crime, described by prosecutors as one of the most horrific in the history of Suffolk County, appeared to have been a severe example of a national epidemic involving drugstore robberies by prescription drug addicts.
These officers went into a dangerous situation, (with no vests,) no backup when he was off duty. The muthafucka didn't have to do that ? , but he did, with a disregard to personal safety and out of obligation to fulfill his duty. That's heroism.
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Maximus Rex wrote: »semi-auto-mato wrote: »I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.
CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?
Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.
this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.
? ? ass.
The bolded. How is doing the job that you're sworn to do in anyway remotely heroic? I need somebody to explain to me where is the heroism in subduing a knife wielding suspect by shooting him when you have on a vest. Hell I would daresay the act is not even courageous. Here's an act of heroism on the part of law enforcement and you can plainly see the difference.
Intervening After Robbery, an Off-Duty A.T.F. Agent Is Killed
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/nyregion/off-duty-atf-officer-is-killed-intervening-after-robbery.html
By AL BAKER and TIM STELLOHDEC. 31, 2011
An off-duty special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was fatally shot on Saturday afternoon when he, along with at least one other law enforcement officer and a retired officer, tried to stop a robber who had just held up a pharmacy on Long Island, the authorities said.
The apparent robber was also killed.
Details of the shooting, which occurred outside Charlie’s Family Pharmacy on Merrick Road in Seaford, remained murky on Saturday night as the authorities seemed unsure how it unfolded and who fired the fatal shots.
Senior Special Agent John Capano, an explosives specialist who was in his 40s, had been a special agent for 23 years, said Joe Anarumo, a special agent with the bureau.
“Today, doing his job in an off-duty capacity, he intervened in an armed robbery and subsequently was shot,” Special Agent Anarumo said, adding, “He is a hero.”
Joseph G. Green, a spokesman for the New York office of the bureau, said he had worked closely with Special Agent Capano in the early 1990s when they were assigned to a joint firearms task force with the New York Police Department.
“It is a sad and tragic way to end the year,” Mr. Green said. “Over time, he became a certified explosives expert for A.T.F. who oversaw and assisted in conducting explosives training for law enforcement here in the United States, but also volunteered to travel overseas to Afghanistan and Iraq as part of A.T.F.’s explosives training for our troops in the military and police in those countries.”
Special Agent Capano was married, lived on Long Island and had two children, a daughter who is in high school and a son who is in college. His father is a retired law enforcement officer, Mr. Green added.
It was just before 2 p.m. on Saturday when a man walked into the drugstore, said Officer Maureen Roach, a Nassau County police spokeswoman. She did not say if the man was armed.
“He was demanding OxyContin and cash,” said Lt. Kevin Smith of the Nassau County police, adding that he did not know how much was stolen.
There were customers in the store at the time of the robbery, Lieutenant Smith said, though he said he did not know how many.
A law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was unresolved, said the preliminary accounts indicated that after the man left the pharmacy, he went to a parking lot, and people pointed him out as the possible robber. Special Agent Capano then confronted the man.
Somehow in the struggle between Special Agent Capano and the robbery suspect shots were fired, “and that is when the agent is shot,” the official said.
Next door to the pharmacy is a deli that, according to the official, was believed to be owned by a retired Nassau County police officer or detective. Some people from the pharmacy ran into the deli and told the people there what had happened. Also in the deli was an off-duty member of the New York Police Department, the official said.
“They come out and see these guys struggling,” the official said.
The official said it was believed that either the retired Nassau officer or the off-duty New York officer shot at the struggling men. The suspect was hit by gunshots and was fatally wounded.
It is not clear if Special Agent Capano was shot then or if he had been wounded in the struggle with the suspect. He was taken to Nassau University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
Ryan Lecertosa, 24, was on his way home when he drove past the pharmacy Saturday afternoon and heard several gunshots. He said he saw a large man in front of the shop with a blood-soaked shirt.
“He was holding his chest, and then he collapsed,” Mr. Lecertosa said, adding that the man was instantly surrounded by about six people.
As the authorities try to establish just what happened, they will have to collect whatever guns were present, and try to figure out who fired, and how many shots. They will check the ballistics. Autopsies will be performed. Among the questions will be what bullets caused what wounds. Eyewitness accounts will be gathered, as well as any admissions made spontaneously, if they were.
Asked for details about the shooting and whether New York police officers were somehow involved, Detective Brian Sessa, a New York Police Department spokesman, said: “We are looking into it. It is not our investigation; it is Nassau County’s investigation. We’re looking into it.”
The episode aroused memories of the shooting deaths last June of four people inside a pharmacy in Medford, N.Y., several miles east of Seaford, in Suffolk County. The killer, David S. Laffer, 33, pleaded guilty in September to first-degree murder. After killing the four — a pharmacist, a clerk who was still in high school and two customers — he fled the store with thousands of pain pills.
That crime, described by prosecutors as one of the most horrific in the history of Suffolk County, appeared to have been a severe example of a national epidemic involving drugstore robberies by prescription drug addicts.
These officers went into a dangerous situation, (with no vests,) no backup when he was off duty. The muthafucka didn't have to do that ? , but he did, with a disregard to personal safety and out of obligation to fulfill his duty. That's heroism.
All racial ? aside, it being the cops job doesn't take away from their justified acts being heroic. Regardless of who is better equipped, if they were able to save lives, then the title of hero is warranted. -
Maximus Rex wrote: »semi-auto-mato wrote: »I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.
CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?
Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.
this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.
? ? ass.
The bolded. How is doing the job that you're sworn to do in anyway remotely heroic? I need somebody to explain to me where is the heroism in subduing a knife wielding suspect by shooting him when you have on a vest. Hell I would daresay the act is not even courageous. Here's an act of heroism on the part of law enforcement and you can plainly see the difference.
Intervening After Robbery, an Off-Duty A.T.F. Agent Is Killed
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/nyregion/off-duty-atf-officer-is-killed-intervening-after-robbery.html
By AL BAKER and TIM STELLOHDEC. 31, 2011
An off-duty special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was fatally shot on Saturday afternoon when he, along with at least one other law enforcement officer and a retired officer, tried to stop a robber who had just held up a pharmacy on Long Island, the authorities said.
The apparent robber was also killed.
Details of the shooting, which occurred outside Charlie’s Family Pharmacy on Merrick Road in Seaford, remained murky on Saturday night as the authorities seemed unsure how it unfolded and who fired the fatal shots.
Senior Special Agent John Capano, an explosives specialist who was in his 40s, had been a special agent for 23 years, said Joe Anarumo, a special agent with the bureau.
“Today, doing his job in an off-duty capacity, he intervened in an armed robbery and subsequently was shot,” Special Agent Anarumo said, adding, “He is a hero.”
Joseph G. Green, a spokesman for the New York office of the bureau, said he had worked closely with Special Agent Capano in the early 1990s when they were assigned to a joint firearms task force with the New York Police Department.
“It is a sad and tragic way to end the year,” Mr. Green said. “Over time, he became a certified explosives expert for A.T.F. who oversaw and assisted in conducting explosives training for law enforcement here in the United States, but also volunteered to travel overseas to Afghanistan and Iraq as part of A.T.F.’s explosives training for our troops in the military and police in those countries.”
Special Agent Capano was married, lived on Long Island and had two children, a daughter who is in high school and a son who is in college. His father is a retired law enforcement officer, Mr. Green added.
It was just before 2 p.m. on Saturday when a man walked into the drugstore, said Officer Maureen Roach, a Nassau County police spokeswoman. She did not say if the man was armed.
“He was demanding OxyContin and cash,” said Lt. Kevin Smith of the Nassau County police, adding that he did not know how much was stolen.
There were customers in the store at the time of the robbery, Lieutenant Smith said, though he said he did not know how many.
A law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was unresolved, said the preliminary accounts indicated that after the man left the pharmacy, he went to a parking lot, and people pointed him out as the possible robber. Special Agent Capano then confronted the man.
Somehow in the struggle between Special Agent Capano and the robbery suspect shots were fired, “and that is when the agent is shot,” the official said.
Next door to the pharmacy is a deli that, according to the official, was believed to be owned by a retired Nassau County police officer or detective. Some people from the pharmacy ran into the deli and told the people there what had happened. Also in the deli was an off-duty member of the New York Police Department, the official said.
“They come out and see these guys struggling,” the official said.
The official said it was believed that either the retired Nassau officer or the off-duty New York officer shot at the struggling men. The suspect was hit by gunshots and was fatally wounded.
It is not clear if Special Agent Capano was shot then or if he had been wounded in the struggle with the suspect. He was taken to Nassau University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
Ryan Lecertosa, 24, was on his way home when he drove past the pharmacy Saturday afternoon and heard several gunshots. He said he saw a large man in front of the shop with a blood-soaked shirt.
“He was holding his chest, and then he collapsed,” Mr. Lecertosa said, adding that the man was instantly surrounded by about six people.
As the authorities try to establish just what happened, they will have to collect whatever guns were present, and try to figure out who fired, and how many shots. They will check the ballistics. Autopsies will be performed. Among the questions will be what bullets caused what wounds. Eyewitness accounts will be gathered, as well as any admissions made spontaneously, if they were.
Asked for details about the shooting and whether New York police officers were somehow involved, Detective Brian Sessa, a New York Police Department spokesman, said: “We are looking into it. It is not our investigation; it is Nassau County’s investigation. We’re looking into it.”
The episode aroused memories of the shooting deaths last June of four people inside a pharmacy in Medford, N.Y., several miles east of Seaford, in Suffolk County. The killer, David S. Laffer, 33, pleaded guilty in September to first-degree murder. After killing the four — a pharmacist, a clerk who was still in high school and two customers — he fled the store with thousands of pain pills.
That crime, described by prosecutors as one of the most horrific in the history of Suffolk County, appeared to have been a severe example of a national epidemic involving drugstore robberies by prescription drug addicts.
These officers went into a dangerous situation, (with no vests,) no backup when he was off duty. The muthafucka didn't have to do that ? , but he did, with a disregard to personal safety and out of obligation to fulfill his duty. That's heroism.
All racial ? aside, it being the cops job doesn't take away from their justified acts being heroic. Regardless of who is better equipped, if they were able to save lives, then the title of hero is warranted.
A vocation in of itself doesn't make one heroic.
