Judge Rules University Must Let White Supremacist Richard Spencer Speak Auburn University...

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stringer bell
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edited April 2017 in For The Grown & Sexy
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/judge-rules-university-must-let-white-nationalist-richard-spencer-speak/
AUBURN, Ala. (AP) — A federal judge has ruled that Auburn University must let white nationalist Richard Spencer speak on campus Tuesday.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge W. Keith Watkins came at a hearing in a lawsuit challenging Auburn’s refusal to let the talk occur in the student union, as originally planned. Lawyer Sam Dickson filed the suit on behalf of Cameron Padgett, identified as an Atlanta-area resident who rented an auditorium for Spencer’s talk.

In a statement, the university said it would abide by the decision and allow Spencer to speak.

“We continue working closely with law enforcement officials to ensure the safety of the campus community,” the statement said.

Both Spencer supporters and opponents are expected to attend, and police say they’re establishing a protest zone.

Spencer previously made news by addressing a far-right gathering where audience members gave a ? salute.

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  • Will Munny
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    This is Alabama after all...

    Auburn is very conservative as far as colleges go.
  • atribecalledgabi
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    Lol this made it to federal court? Shoulda just did what Berkeley did to that milo fool and rioted so hard he didn't feel safe to come there
  • 7figz
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  • Plutarch
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    Generally, I personally advocate anyone's right to speak, even white supremacists, but Auburn should be able to decide who can speak and who cannot speak on their own damn campus.

    The federal government has no right to dictate to...wait just did a quick google search and turns out that Auburn is not a private but public university, so I guess it has to follow state law, whatever that law says. But Alabama should make that decision, not a federal judge.

    There'll probably be some violence, especially from non-students, but I don't see any Berkeley-type violence going down. Alabama sure isn't California.
  • Plutarch
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    Lol this made it to federal court? Shoulda just did what Berkeley did to that milo fool and rioted so hard he didn't feel safe to come there

    You still don't think that riot was counterproductive? Because of the riot, he got a big live news interview for a national audience, and the Berkeley campus went to ? . If it wasn't for that "? " scandal, he'd have been riding higher than he would've ever been all because of the riot. He loved it.

    You don't see a potential Streisand effect happening here? Most of the country doesn't know who Spencer is. Give him a Berkeley-style riot, and you'll give him free press and a bigger audience/following.
  • nujerz84
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    boycott let him speak to an empty venue
  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
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    he should be aloud to speak , if yall are nice and believe in your ideology, you would engage him and poke holes at his argument.
  • TayGettem
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    If he wants to talk he can i just know if i was a black student on campus an a ? go talkin crazy imma use Richard Spencers hate mongering as the reason for whoopin that crackers ass
  • manofmorehouse
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    Freedom of speech. Let him speak. His words have consequences though. ? like this isn't an issue at Morehouse, Howard, FAMU, and other HBCUs. Again, I never judge a person's decision to go to a PWI. Just realize who u are in that environment. Auburn is a private school. Ask yourself, if private schools can dictate things as trivial as dress code, what type of institution would be comfortable with having this dude come to voice his opinion on race relations?? Go tigers, though...smh
  • TayGettem
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    Freedom of speech. Let him speak. His words have consequences though. ? like this isn't an issue at Morehouse, Howard, FAMU, and other HBCUs. Again, I never judge a person's decision to go to a PWI. Just realize who u are in that environment. Auburn is a private school. Ask yourself, if private schools can dictate things as trivial as dress code, what type of institution would be comfortable with having this dude come to voice his opinion on race relations?? Go tigers, though...smh

    I think aurbun is public
  • manofmorehouse
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    TayGettem wrote: »
    Freedom of speech. Let him speak. His words have consequences though. ? like this isn't an issue at Morehouse, Howard, FAMU, and other HBCUs. Again, I never judge a person's decision to go to a PWI. Just realize who u are in that environment. Auburn is a private school. Ask yourself, if private schools can dictate things as trivial as dress code, what type of institution would be comfortable with having this dude come to voice his opinion on race relations?? Go tigers, though...smh

    I think aurbun is public

    Ether! I'm an idiot lol Carry on....
  • gns
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    fortyacres wrote: »
    he should be aloud to speak , if yall are nice and believe in your ideology, you would engage him and poke holes at his argument.

    ? the only ones want to hear out someone preaching hate and argue points......and its allowed genius
  • SneakDZA
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    gns wrote: »
    fortyacres wrote: »
    he should be aloud to speak , if yall are nice and believe in your ideology, you would engage him and poke holes at his argument.

    ? the only ones want to hear out someone preaching hate and argue points......and its allowed genius

    These fools really think we're supposed to politely debate with people that consider us to be animals and either want to enslave or exterminate us.

    They're not trying to have an intelligent discourse, they're trying to recruit more soldiers in a war against us.
  • R0mp
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    This is what some of them genuinely believe:

    "The only real racism today is racism against whites."
    "Whites are the most oppressed group today and have it the hardest."
    "Whites are under attack by evil folks in power who want white genocide."
  • Plutarch
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    TayGettem wrote: »
    Freedom of speech. Let him speak. His words have consequences though. ? like this isn't an issue at Morehouse, Howard, FAMU, and other HBCUs. Again, I never judge a person's decision to go to a PWI. Just realize who u are in that environment. Auburn is a private school. Ask yourself, if private schools can dictate things as trivial as dress code, what type of institution would be comfortable with having this dude come to voice his opinion on race relations?? Go tigers, though...smh

    I think aurbun is public

    It is. I already pointed that out.

    I'm not sure many people understand the big differences between public and private though.
  • Plutarch
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    gns wrote: »
    fortyacres wrote: »
    he should be aloud to speak , if yall are nice and believe in your ideology, you would engage him and poke holes at his argument.

    ? the only ones want to hear out someone preaching hate and argue points......and its allowed genius
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    These fools really think we're supposed to politely debate with people that consider us to be animals and either want to enslave or exterminate us.

    I can't tell if you're joking or not.

    If you really think that, you're either disingenuously distorting that point of view, or you genuinely don't have a full understanding of that point of view.
    SneakDZA wrote: »
    They're not trying to have an intelligent discourse, they're trying to recruit more soldiers in a war against us.

    Yes, a white supremacist is not intelligent enough in the first place to have an intelligent discourse. Regardless, it is legal for them to do what they're doing.

    Free speech is a double-edged sword, and like it or not, it also protects most hate speech. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

    No one here wants them to speak and/or recruit, but it's their right to do so. Do you think violence and rioting is going to help? Yeah, it might help them. There are much more reasonable and more productive alternatives, imo. And still, they won't be 100% successful.
  • Shizlansky
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    Would a radical Muslim be able to visit a college and say the type of ? he want to?
  • Plutarch
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    ^^^ ? , what.

    Nah, to answer your question, he should be able to do so. But I wouldn't be surprised if a double standard was pulled.

    There are limits to free speech though. If a radical Muslim or a white supremacist calls for violence and such, they should be arrested.
  • Shizlansky
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  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
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    SneakDZA wrote: »
    gns wrote: »
    fortyacres wrote: »
    he should be aloud to speak , if yall are nice and believe in your ideology, you would engage him and poke holes at his argument.

    ? the only ones want to hear out someone preaching hate and argue points......and its allowed genius

    These fools really think we're supposed to politely debate with people that consider us to be animals and either want to enslave or exterminate us.

    They're not trying to have an intelligent discourse, they're trying to recruit more soldiers in a war against us.

    Roland Martin did and made him look like an idiot on national TV .
  • fortyacres
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    gns wrote: »
    fortyacres wrote: »
    he should be aloud to speak , if yall are nice and believe in your ideology, you would engage him and poke holes at his argument.

    ? the only ones want to hear out someone preaching hate and argue points......and its allowed genius

    touche' on the spelling part...
  • ineedpussy
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    yeah.....he dont even need to take away football. just take away black players and see how far auburn or any other white university get.....hell even their endowments will dwindle. but yall (blacks) dont want that for ? do yall?