Video: The Pigs involved in Tamir Rice killing tell their "stories" in never-before-seen interviews…

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http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/cops_involved_in_tamir_rice_sh.html
Cops involved in Tamir Rice shooting tell their stories in never-before-seen interviews


CLEVELAND, Ohio - Two and a half years after 12-year-old Tamir Rice was shot and killed by a Cleveland police officer, cleveland.com has obtained the videos - never before seen publicly -- of investigative interviews with the officers involved, Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback.

The interviews, conducted within days of the Nov. 22, 2014 shooting outside Cudell Recreation Center, include details not previously reported of the events and offer new insight into the mindsets of the officers.

The videos also reveal some inconsistencies with the story Loehmann later told a grand jury in his written statement.
Until now, that statement and Garmback's offered the only public accounting from the officers' perspectives. The grand jury eventually declined to indict the officers. But the city has introduced administrative charges, unrelated to the shooting itself, that could cost Loehmann and Garmback their jobs.

In agreeing to be interviewed on camera by homicide detectives and internal affairs officers, Garmback and Loehmann invoked their so-called Garrity rights, which protect public employees from incriminating themselves in statements to their employer.

The videos, posted here in their entirety, depict the officers - one emotional, one stoic -- in the aftermath of the shooting.


Garmback told investigators that on the day of the shooting, he and Loehmann volunteered to help field the 911 call about a guy brandishing a gun in a park outside the recreation center.

As they hurried to the location, Garmback drilled his rookie trainee on how to handle a "gun run."

"[Loehmann] said, 'I would get out of the car. I'd get in a certain stance,'" Garmback later recalled for investigators. "I stopped him at that point and said, 'This is a gun run. Be prepared for the worst-case scenario. Have your gun unholstered already on your lap.'"

Garmback went on to explain to Loehmann that they would drive their vehicle "the back way" through the grassy park, which would put the cruiser near the swings - the spot where the gunman was reported to be - to limit the suspect's possibilities for escape.

Garmback faces administrative charges for driving too close to Tamir while responding to what the officer believed to be an armed suspect.


Garmback wept several times during his interview - recalling his realization that Tamir was a boy, the way Tamir looked as he lost consciousness and how long it took rescuers to arrive.

"He's barely breathing, and there's no rescue squad here," Garmback said. "Finally, I'm holding [pressure on the wound]. ... Then [firefighters] come up. And they're walking so slow. Other units are telling them to hurry up, get over there. They still walk slow."

Loehmann's interview:

Loehmann said that he opened his car door slightly when the cruiser was about 30 yards from Tamir, presented his weapon and started yelling: "Put your hands in the air! Let me see your weapon! Freeze!"

This account is inconsistent with his written statement to the grand jury, in which he said he hadn't opened the door and begun yelling until the car was rolling to a stop.

An internal affairs investigator questioned Loehmann about the mechanics of holding open the passenger-side door of a moving vehicle, while also holding a gun in his dominant right hand.

Loehmann described the crouching posture he had to assume on the door's threshold to be "prepared for anything."

"The threat just became incredible," Loehmann said. "I had to make the decision fast because Frank and I were in immediate danger. If the subject did pull out the gun and point it towards us, I would have been shot and possibly my partner. ... Plus, I was stuck in the doorway and my partner was still seated in the driver's seat. So we were basically sitting ducks."


Loehmann's use of deadly force was found to have been justified under the circumstances. But he faces discipline for failing to note on his Cleveland police application that his short stint at the Independence Police Department had ended with a series of incidents that Loehmann's superiors believed demonstrated his emotional instability.

Attorney Subodh Chandra, who represents the family of Tamir Rice, said in an email Friday that the videos "raise the stakes" for the pending charges against the officers.

"As public anguish regarding young Tamir's slaying continues, the physically impossible accounts and inconsistencies the officers offer in their video-recorded interviews raise the stakes for this last chance at public accountability through the absurdly delayed discipline process," Chandra said.

In an interview Monday, Steve Loomis, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, blamed politics for the delay and the administrative charges brought against the officers, who, Loomis maintained, did nothing wrong.

"There is such a thirst for blood on this, and they are looking for every possible reason to fire them," Loomis said. "And it's because politics demand it. It's an election year -- damn the facts. We're not saying [Tamir's death] wasn't an absolute tragedy. But it was justified use of deadly force. Unfortunate, but justified."

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Pig Privilege is helluva get out jail free card.. You can lie beforehand to "investigators".. Then go before a grand jury and change your story to something more favorable to you.. While the prosecutor never points out the fact your lying and changed your story.. Finally the grand jury will let go free for killing innocent young black boy.. Only in Amerikkka...

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  • Trillfate
    Trillfate Members Posts: 24,008 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I love short stories

    "I shot in 1.5 seconds, the end."
  • Busta Carmichael
    Busta Carmichael Members, Moderators Posts: 13,161 Regulator
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    Don't wanna these punk ? talk. Gonna be filled with lies on how they were fearing for their lives
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    you only have a story when something was building up to some reaction.

    there was no build up
  • rebootx1
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    Melanated Cop Sentenced To 40 Years For Fatal Sho…: https://youtu.be/sytPaB5FBBI


  • The Lonious Monk
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    It kills me how committed white people are to saying this ? was justified. They literally pulled a driveby on that kid and they think that's ok.
  • bigbird_1
    bigbird_1 Members Posts: 977 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ? whatever they talkin about.
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    It kills me how committed white people are to saying this ? was justified. They literally pulled a driveby on that kid and they think that's ok.

    it's there privilege blinding them
  • stringer bell
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    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/04/clevelands_critical_incident_r.html
    Cleveland's Critical Incident Review Committee found no violations in officers' response in Tamir Rice shooting

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The committee that reviewed the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice determined that officers Timothy Loehmann and Frank Garmback did not violate any police department policies or procedures.

    The Critical Incident Review Committee, which conducted an administrative review of the officers' actions, found no fault in the officers' actions leading up to, during and after the Nov. 22, 2014 shooting at Cudell Recreation Center on Cleveland's West Side.

    The Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, which represents rank-and-file officers including Loehmann and Garmback, released a copy of the CIRC's completed report on Friday afternoon.

    Loehmann and Garmback are still facing city discipline. Loehmann, who fatally shot Tamir, is accused of omitting the fact that he would have been fired from the Independence Police Department if he had not been allowed to resign.

    Garmback is accused of driving his cruiser too close to Tamir, which could have endangered Loehmann. But the CIRC report directly contradicts that accusation, saying that Garmback's route through the park was the safest one and regularly used by officers.


    Cleveland Safety Director Michael McGrath could choose to impose no discipline, or he could levy punishment ranging up to termination. Garback has had his pre-disciplinary hearing but Loehmann has not, CPPA President Steve Loomis said.

    The CIRC began reviewing the fatal shooting Feb. 22, 2016, two months after a Cuyahoga County grand jury decided it would not bring criminal charges against Loehmann and Garmback. The committee issued its findings Oct. 6, 2016 but the report was not released until Friday.

    The CIRC reviewed investigations by the Cuyahoga County Sheriff, the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation, the State Highway Patrol and the police department's internal use-of-force investigation.

    Cleveland Division of Police Chief Calvin Williams asked the CIRC to complete a review that would normally be conducted by the police department's Internal Affairs Division, the report says.

    The committee compared the investigations with existing police department policies, procedures and general police orders to see if the officers committed any violations.

    Garback was driving between 15 and 22 miles per hour when he first hit his police cruiser's brakes. But the cruiser skidded several feet because the ground was wet, the report says.

    Garback also said in an interview with investigators that he wanted to stop the cruiser sooner because he thought Tamir may run and to give him and Loehmann a safer vantage point.

    The CIRC team re-created the route five times. They found that Garback did not violate any policies on his drive through the park.

    Loomis said in an interview that the report shows Garback did nothing wrong and should not be disciplined. He said the pre-disciplinary hearing "went well" and that the CIRC report's findings show that the disciplinary charges levied against Garback were "politically motivated."

    He also criticized the city for failing to release the CIRC report, especially after releasing the disciplinary letters sent to both officers.


    City spokesman Dan Williams said he could not comment on the report because of the unresolved disciplinary cases against Loehmann and Garmback.

    Subodh Chandra, the attorney for the Rice family who negotiated a $6 million settlement between the city and Rice's family, said the CIRC report was "an incompetently executed whitewash."

    "When was the last time the police division or union engaged in intellectually honest, self-critical analysis?" Chandra said in a statement.

    The review team was comprised of Deputy Chief Dwayne Drummond, Chief Calvin Williams' Community Liason Cassandra Bledsoe, Lt. Michael Butler, Internal Affairs Lt. Monroe Goins, the mayor's Director of Community Relations Blain Griffin, assistant city law director Nancy Kelly, police academy instructor Officer George Kwan, Office of Professional Standards administrator Damon Scott and Second District Commander Thomas Stacho.

    The team also found that dispatcher Constance Hollinger may have violated policies for failing relay critical details to the officers. The 911 call-taker, Beth Mandl, told Hollinger that a 911 caller said Tamir was "probably a child" and that that the airsoft pellet gun he had was "probably fake."

    Hollinger was eventually suspended eight days without pay. Mandl resigned without being disciplined. The CIRC report concluded she did not violate any policies.


    The report also concluded that officer William Cunningham, who was working was working off-duty at the rec center without permission, violated policies regarding getting permission to work off-duty.

    He later received a two-day suspension without pay.

  • gns
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    Not even clicking that ?
    Honestly didnt wanna click the thread

    Yall got pics of these pigs faces?