'DJ Premier Explains The Notorious B.I.G.'s "Kick In The Door" Disses'
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its....JOHN B wrote: »
destiny is a word
just cuz Nas daughter named destiny mean everytime a rapper say destiny they dissing Nas?
Gtfoh
there is just no proof yall nuggaz is madd reaching ....
nawl, it was the way he put that double meaning wordplay together. No man, if you just say the word destiny then yeah I understand that it could be a reach but the fact that he said duck tapping your "fam" first really mad that nameplay pop extra. Big was a master at subliminals. I think he shoulda been more specific wit Pac only because Pac was specific wit him. But since the East Coast dudes was subliminally dissing him I don't fault him for going the subliminal rout wit those cats. -
Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Y'all ? really thinking Big throwing shots at Nas using his 2-3 y/o daughter at the time?
IDK bout that one
don't act like he so above being petty enough to threaten kids. On "nobody till somebody kills you" he said something like "the kids, the dog, everybody dying no lying" -
its....JOHN B wrote: »
destiny is a word
just cuz Nas daughter named destiny mean everytime a rapper say destiny they dissing Nas?
Gtfoh
there is just no proof yall nuggaz is madd reaching ....
nawl, it was the way he put that double meaning wordplay together. No man, if you just say the word destiny then yeah I understand that it could be a reach but the fact that he said duck tapping your "fam" first really mad that nameplay pop extra. Big was a master at subliminals. I think he shoulda been more specific wit Pac only because Pac was specific wit him. But since the East Coast dudes was subliminally dissing him I don't fault him for going the subliminal rout wit those cats.
This doesn't prove he was speaking on Nas's daughter
or narrow down who he was speaking on
fam=that could be anyone's family or rap crew
yal making a big deal cuz he said the word fam
how does it tie it to Nas?
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So the ? gonna say "I'm in your Momma Crib waiting"(he ain't at moms house to tie up no rap crew bro). Then talk about tying up somebody whole family but it's a reach to picture Biggie wit a gun to the little girl by the time his enemy walk through the door? -
The thing is BIG really was a real hip hop head and I think wanted to stick with gutter raps, so its a shame MC's went at BIG for at the time his 'commercial' hip hop singles, funny as even them commercial joints today would be probably be classed as underground or praised for being nostalgic 90s style hip hop compared to the trash that gets released these days... Its been said before Puff 'made' him do a the commercial joints to make money and sell records etc so imagine the FIRE and grimey tracks BIG coulda made with OGC and Boot Camp Clik etc... Dare I say how CRAZY a BIG and Sean P joint 'Its... Sean P and The B.I.G'
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Man I would love that 'Death Row East' tee, that schitt prob worth crazy money today... -
Ok yeah you got a point but just like yall reaching
why not reach and say it changed it up mid sentence ... rappers do that ?
they be talkin bout 1 thing .. then jump into something else
if he was at his mom's house
why would he wait to ducktape the ___?
what was the purpose of that if he was gonna do it?
He would already be at the house im assuming the ___ there
Why would he stay there ... it just makes no sense
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it make more sense he waiting at dude's house maybe duck taping moufs shut so the cops wont come
then when dude rolls up big gonna take out his whole rap crew
that actually makes more sense being that he is waiting on an arrival
He know the dude was gonna return to his moms place
He would never know when a ____ was coming...
Who would give him info to do that?
Nah but either someone told when dude and his crew was gonna come to his moms place ...someone could tell him that from the streets -
Non of this ties back to Nas what so ever...
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by the way Im not a criminal so i don't know a criminal would think
but this ? is so bad ... -
water ur seeds wrote: »The thing is BIG really was a real hip hop head and I think wanted to stick with gutter raps, so its a shame MC's went at BIG for at the time his 'commercial' hip hop singles, funny as even them commercial joints today would be probably be classed as underground or praised for being nostalgic 90s style hip hop compared to the trash that gets released these days... Its been said before Puff 'made' him do a the commercial joints to make money and sell records etc so imagine the FIRE and grimey tracks BIG coulda made with OGC and Boot Camp Clik etc... Dare I say how CRAZY a BIG and Sean P joint 'Its... Sean P and The B.I.G'
Crazy how you mentioned BIG & OGC...
I was just looking at OGC - Da Storm video at how they was dissing BIG. Cause allegedly BIG stole the jamaican hook from the Get Money rmx from one of the OGC ? , even tho it didn't belong to them either lol.
And Starang Wondah got jumped by Junior Mafia because of it.
And allegedly Rockness wasn't feeling how Dru Ha wanted to dead the situation. If that's the case I know Rock and them was ready to pop off. -
DOPE THREAD
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"journalist" need to let the dead RIP if they not talkin about solving their murders smh
That's like saying white supremacy needs 2 die but we all know y'all ain't gonna stop even if y'all ? ya own like y'all shady devilss did n Charlottesville...trilladelic wrote: »Big the goat. This song is 20yrs old. Tha niqqa flow is timeless. Who better? Who?
None of that matters when ya too ? 2 come out & face the man ya dissin.... that's y pacs disses will always sting more then bigs cuz he wasn't a koward beating around the bush makaveli was kurupt calling out names!
water ur seeds wrote: »
Yeah the deathrow east tees was dope u c the back of fatals deathrow east tee...
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shut up man
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I'm surprised this is even a debate. I've heard the "Destiny lays in my hands" line was aimed at Nas mad years ago. I think Nas even confirmed it himself in some magazine.
Even them bozo's at Rap Genius agree that line was aimed at Nas. -
only Biggie knows .... fukk everybody else opinion
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The Hip Hop game known to make drama out of nothing ...conspiracy theory azz
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Drama sells
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only Biggie knows .... fukk everybody else opinion
You making it harder than the ? has to be. Destiny is Nas's daughter and the way he used that line was a double meaning dude. Why would he have to duck tape nas rap crew? If he going at Nas it make more sense diss wise to tie up his actual blood relatives. I think that would ? wit Nas more than Big capturing Foxy Brown or Nature. Lol why wouldn't he instead say I'm at the studio waiting, instead of his moms house if it's just some ole rappidy rap ? ? That's why it's a dope subliminal because guys like you still don't get the depths in which he spun wordplay around. -
Even XXL thinks the "Destiny lays in my hands" line is going at Nas.....
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/03/the-notorious-b-i-g-subliminal-disses/
Puff Daddy's "Victory" Featuring The Notorious B.I.G. and Busta RhymesAssumed Target: Nas
"The son of (Satan), they say my killing's too blatant/You hesitatin', I'm in your mama crib waitin'/Duct tapin', your fam' destiny/Lays in my hands, gat lays in my waist"
Read More: 15 Memorable Subliminal Disses From The Notorious B.I.G. - XXL | http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/03/the-notorious-b-i-g-subliminal-disses/?trackback=tsmclip -
only Biggie knows .... fukk everybody else opinion
You making it harder than the ? has to be. Destiny is Nas's daughter and the way he used that line was a double meaning dude. Why would he have to duck tape nas rap crew? If he going at Nas it make more sense diss wise to tie up his actual blood relatives. I think that would ? wit Nas more than Big capturing Foxy Brown or Nature. Lol why wouldn't he instead say I'm at the studio waiting, instead of his moms house if it's just some ole rappidy rap ? ? That's why it's a dope subliminal because guys like you still don't get the depths in which he spun wordplay around.
u really think im gonna argue with on what makes sense in that situation?
ole it is cuz we say it is azz ... -
I asked way earlier move on to the so called rae and ghost disses ...
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@KneeGro_DuperMan
Schitt Ruck and Rock wernt the ones to play with, wernt they both Decepticons??? With them all being from Brooklyn they arnt the best dudes for BIG to be been beefing with, as although BadBoy artists like BIG etc were 'high priced assets' and would of been heavily protected by dudes like Gene Deal, Wolf and their boys etc but 'less important' dudes to BadBoy and affiliates who still had to walk BK and New York dolo could be terrorised and caught up with beef... -
Yo with regards to that line 'Your fam, Destiny, lays in my hands'...
What makes me think it could be a subliminal is the way BIG paused so it made it like he said 'a name' and didnt use FAM as a plural so it sounded like he was talking about a single person too...
If he had said: 'Your fams destiny lays in my hands' it wouldnt sound to me like a subliminal, but he said:
'Your fam, Destiny, lays in my hands', which to me does sound like a subliminal... -
thats how his flow was going with slight pauses
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thats how his flow was going with slight pauses
Yeeeeah and??? That was my point, he *coulda* fit the rhyme to fit his rhyme pattern... Or just not said it...
