Double Standard? Bull ? Ellen Degeneres Takes Heat for ‘Sexualizing’ Katy Perry’s Big Gropefruits
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MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Too many people in this thread are being willfully ignorant.
Either that or they're genuinely ignorant.........or they're just trolling.
The thread premise has nothing to do with the relationship between Ellen and Katy Perry.
It's really not even about them at all.
The tweet that featured them was just used as an example to illustrate how women are given a pass for behavior that men would be admonished for.
I honestly don't understand how this is even debatable.
The context is literally the beginning and end of the discussion tho. Who you say something to and where is what makes a comment ok or not. -
BiblicalAtheist wrote: »Umm it's sexualizing when it's unwanted.
It's always sexualizing. The act of sexualizing starts in the mind of the perpetrator, not the target. Being unwanted is just what leads to the blowout. -
MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
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Well damn. This makes sense -
Yea there's no argument here if both chicks are close friends, people are just trolling to prove a point. This is the wrong example to try and make a point.
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atribecalledgabi wrote: »Will Munny wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
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Where do you draw the line tho? If she made a comment about her bleached ? would it be okay?
You need to walk into a women's bathroom/locker room sometime...or a house that has only women living in it. Kick it with some female athletes. Women are gross. We are debauched. We have terrible conversations that have no limits.
Oh I’m well aware conversations about bleached ? are real. -
MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Too many people in this thread are being willfully ignorant.
Either that or they're genuinely ignorant.........or they're just trolling.
The thread premise has nothing to do with the relationship between Ellen and Katy Perry.
It's really not even about them at all.
The tweet that featured them was just used as an example to illustrate how women are given a pass for behavior that men would be admonished for.
I honestly don't understand how this is even debatable.
precisely. -
? complaining about double standards
And
Want to live the double standard life style.
Stop crying ? . -
MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Too many people in this thread are being willfully ignorant.
Either that or they're genuinely ignorant.........or they're just trolling.
The thread premise has nothing to do with the relationship between Ellen and Katy Perry.
It's really not even about them at all.
The tweet that featured them was just used as an example to illustrate how women are given a pass for behavior that men would be admonished for.
I honestly don't understand how this is even debatable.
https://youtu.be/Ii4ZxQh-HfQ
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Look what Jimmy Kimmel just did to George Clooney !!! As you can see Clooney is visibly upset at what his good friend did to him
Where is the fake outrage ????
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Y'all sound like a bunch of cacs failing to understand the context of a situation. This Ellen ? is the wrong example to use!
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Some really obtuse people on this board.
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Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards. -
I don't get how there's so much disagreement. The fact that who says something affects how it is viewed and interpreted is exactly the reason why Black folks don't want other groups using slurs they use to refer to themselves
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I don't get how there's so much disagreement. The fact that who says something affects how it is viewed and interpreted is exactly the reason why Black folks don't want other groups using slurs they use to refer to themselves
Same reason whites always ? when you bring a fact like that up. They just can't admit when they're wrong. -
This thread is about this situation
Give one that is actually comparable to the point y'all are trying to make -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards.
Sarcasm bruh -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards.
Sarcasm bruh
Are you sure because he damn sure Nosigned me, which suggests he believes what he said. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards.
Sarcasm bruh
Are you sure because he damn sure Nosigned me, which suggests he believes what he said.
A friend can call a friend whatever they want.
It’s not up to you to feel bad for them. -
Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards.
Sarcasm bruh
Are you sure because he damn sure Nosigned me, which suggests he believes what he said.
A friend can call a friend whatever they want.
It’s not up to you to feel bad for them.
You are like these chicks in that you're completely missing the point that's being discussed here. Nobody gives a ? about how Ellen or Katie feels. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards.
Sarcasm bruh
Are you sure because he damn sure Nosigned me, which suggests he believes what he said.
A friend can call a friend whatever they want.
It’s not up to you to feel bad for them.
You are like these chicks in that you're completely missing the point that's being discussed here. Nobody gives a ? about how Ellen or Katie feels.
I like double standards. That’s all ima say.
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This thread shouldnt be 7pages long
Yall in here arguin about nothin -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards.
Sarcasm bruh
Are you sure because he damn sure Nosigned me, which suggests he believes what he said.
A friend can call a friend whatever they want.
It’s not up to you to feel bad for them.
You are like these chicks in that you're completely missing the point that's being discussed here. Nobody gives a ? about how Ellen or Katie feels.
it was a bad joke from ellen...
but context does matter...and from what i'm observed comedians do did leeway with the media and general public when they say certain things...same as when women and other minorities do or say offensive or self deprecating things....
so this idea that any male comedian would have been "destroyed" is kind of disingenuous as well
ppl like david letterman and jimmy kimmel (i.e. the man show) have said and done much worst but have not suffered much, if at all
ellen has also has a long history of going out her way to champion women issues and give women praise for their accomplishments and attributes outside the physical
that said, if ellen were a man with the same track record he wouldn't deserve to loose his career, endorsements either
and any one who believes that women being viewed in a sexual matter or praised for their physical assets is inherently this great evil is mistaken as well
but there is a lot of hypocrisy and feelings to go around ...on both sides
seems like most ppl who do want to see ellen fall are fighting for their right to be ? in peace opposed to being concerned with how women are depicted anyways -
Madame_CJSkywalker wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »MsSouthern wrote: »All these men in here telling everyone how a woman feels when her good friend makes a comment about her having nice ?
Hilarious
lol
Well damn. This makes sense
No it doesn't. How Perry feels is irrelevant. Again if Ellen was a man and Katie was his friend doing this, feminists would still throw a fit. The discussion here is not about Perry's feelings. It's about how people react to certain circumstances when its a man doing it vs a woman doing it. Every woman in this topic so far has basically just contributed an illogical deflection, all because they don't want to admit that sometimes they are on the wrong side of double standards.
Sarcasm bruh
Are you sure because he damn sure Nosigned me, which suggests he believes what he said.
A friend can call a friend whatever they want.
It’s not up to you to feel bad for them.
You are like these chicks in that you're completely missing the point that's being discussed here. Nobody gives a ? about how Ellen or Katie feels.
it was a bad joke from ellen...
but context does matter...and from what i'm observed comedians do did leeway with the media and general public when they say certain things...same as when women and other minorities do or say offensive or self deprecating things....
so this idea that any male comedian would have been "destroyed" is kind of disingenuous as well
ppl like david letterman and jimmy kimmel (i.e. the man show) have said and done much worst but have not suffered much, if at all
ellen has also has a long history of going out her way to champion women issues and give women praise for their accomplishments and attributes outside the physical
that said, if ellen were a man with the same track record he wouldn't deserve to loose his career, endorsements either
and any one who believes that women being viewed in a sexual matter or praised for their physical assets is inherently this great evil is mistaken as well
but there is a lot of hypocrisy and feelings to go around ...on both sides
seems like most ppl who do want to see ellen fall are fighting for their right to be ? in peace opposed to being concerned with how women are depicted anyways
The comedian angle is a fair point. -
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Why are we acting like "nice ? " is so damning tho? It's not like a slur was used or something crazy controversial was said.
Didn't megyn kelly just get blasted for talking about Jane Fonda's fake ? a couple weeks ago? Context matters. -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »Why are we acting like "nice ? " is so damning tho? It's not like a slur was used or something crazy controversial was said.
Didn't megyn kelly just get blasted for talking about Jane Fonda's fake ? a couple weeks ago? Context matters.
lol Most of us don't think "nice ? " is bad, that said there aren't too many contexts where we can make that comment in public and not come off looking bad.