Denzel Washington: Don't Blame The Prison System, 'It Starts At The Home'
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atribecalledgabi wrote: »
This^^ -
Denzel aint say that he wasnt himself
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On a diff note his new movie looks kinda wack, this is his only movie thats came out in forever that i have zero interest in
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I partially agree with what he saying. Regardless of how we raise our kids, we're still getting set up, drugs planted on us, fake ? allegations by white ? that can't accept they were a hit and run. ? just being black gets us locked up so how is the system not atleast partially to blame?
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On a diff note his new movie looks kinda wack, this is his only movie thats came out in forever that i have zero interest in
It was boring -
There is alot of truth to it.
The breakdown of the family starts with one choices and actions thats undeniable -
Yea thats the 1st thing that i thought when i seen the previews -
He didnt go into detail and never said the system didnt have anything to do with it. At some point we have to look at ourselves. The system is ? up. We all know that but so is our family structure. No one forced me to do the ? I did. I banged on my own. Never had drugs planted on me. They were all mine.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen. We all know it does. For those dudes we gotta stand up and point out the injustices. For ? like me I knew the risk. I was ? up. I been with the same chick since I was 14. We had plans for what to do when the system came knocking. She gave me 4 kids. After My daughter she made it clear that she didn't want to carry no kids into a prison to spend time with their dad. My choices were keep running the streets or be a father and a husband. I went with family but often u hear ? say they married to the streets. That ? is partly to blame. Having kids and trying raise them from a cell helps us none.
Start with the man in the mirror -
semi-auto-mato wrote: »He didnt go into detail and never said the system didnt have anything to do with it. At some point we have to look at ourselves. The system is ? up. We all know that but so is our family structure. No one forced me to do the ? I did. I banged on my own. Never had drugs planted on me. They were all mine.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen. We all know it does. For those dudes we gotta stand up and point out the injustices. For ? like me I knew the risk. I was ? up. I been with the same chick since I was 14. We had plans for what to do when the system came knocking. She gave me 4 kids. After My daughter she made it clear that she didn't want to carry no kids into a prison to spend time with their dad. My choices were keep running the streets or be a father and a husband. I went with family but often u hear ? say they married to the streets. That ? is partly to blame. Having kids and trying raise them from a cell helps us none.
Start with the man in the mirror
Its frowned upon to grow up and be an adult here on the IC. You aint real lol -
Yeah Rampart was started because of fatherless ?
States make deals guaranteeing prisons maintain a certain amount of inmates because ? can't behave at home
Sentencing is disproportionately harsher for people of color because... -
Prisons are for profit, publicly traded companies who's priorities are to make as much profit for their shareholders by having prisons and full as possible, but it's not the prison industrial complex's fault?????
did they decide to profit off of what was already happening (blacks committing crimes and getting arrested at high rates)? -
optimistic wrote: »Yeah Rampart was started because of fatherless ?
States make deals guaranteeing prisons maintain a certain amount of inmates because ? can't behave at home
Sentencing is disproportionately harsher for people of color because...
None of that ? effects you unless you break the law.
That's routinely black folks problem. Once we decided a thing is unfair then whatever happens is happening because of the unfairness instead of because of individual behaviors.
The number of truly innocent people in jail is negligible, most of those ? really broke the law.
Instead of trying to educate people on how to survive without breaking the law, we typically complain about the law, complain about the courts, complain about the cops, complain about ? we have no immediate control over.
And the one thing we do have immediate control over, we surrender that control to continue the victim narrative.
Denzel's absolutely right. If you don't raise your kid to have good behaviors, to follow the laws, and to make good decisions you are almost guaranteeing they will end up in jail. -
optimistic wrote: »Yeah Rampart was started because of fatherless ?
States make deals guaranteeing prisons maintain a certain amount of inmates because ? can't behave at home
Sentencing is disproportionately harsher for people of color because...
None of that ? effects you unless you break the law.
That's routinely black folks problem. Once we decided a thing is unfair then whatever happens is happening because of the unfairness instead of because of individual behaviors.
The number of truly innocent people in jail is negligible, most of those ? really broke the law.
Instead of trying to educate people on how to survive without breaking the law, we typically complain about the law, complain about the courts, complain about the cops, complain about ? we have no immediate control over.
And the one thing we do have immediate control over, we surrender that control to continue the victim narrative.
Denzel's absolutely right. If you don't raise your kid to have good behaviors, to follow the laws, and to make good decisions you are almost guaranteeing they will end up in jail.
I'm late. Is this comment sarcasm / serious ? -
optimistic wrote: »Yeah Rampart was started because of fatherless ?
States make deals guaranteeing prisons maintain a certain amount of inmates because ? can't behave at home
Sentencing is disproportionately harsher for people of color because...
None of that ? effects you unless you break the law.
That's routinely black folks problem. Once we decided a thing is unfair then whatever happens is happening because of the unfairness instead of because of individual behaviors.
The number of truly innocent people in jail is negligible, most of those ? really broke the law.
Instead of trying to educate people on how to survive without breaking the law, we typically complain about the law, complain about the courts, complain about the cops, complain about ? we have no immediate control over.
And the one thing we do have immediate control over, we surrender that control to continue the victim narrative.
Denzel's absolutely right. If you don't raise your kid to have good behaviors, to follow the laws, and to make good decisions you are almost guaranteeing they will end up in jail.
All this maybe true
But the simply fact is people, regardless of the "righteousness" of their upbringing will ? up and just plain make stupid horrible decisions including breaking the law
No one will argue that they shouldn't be held accountable for wrongdoing and sentence for it
But the major problem is that black people are disproportionately sentenced at a higher rate to longer jail/prison time than white people when they break the very same laws.
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I'll add a perfect example would be how they are calling the heroin epidemic that's tearing apart these low income white neighborhoods a "healthcare" problem, but called the ? epidemic, which ? up the black community a criminal problem -
parents do u know where your children are rn?
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LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY wrote: »He said that yall MAKING IT EASY for a system that target yall by DESTROYING FAMILLIES.
What he says has been said by psychologist and behaviorists for decades : children without fathers are most likely to ? up and end up in jail.
I was most scared by my dad than the police. Most of my friends who didnt ... ended up in jail.
Mothers raise CHILDREN , Fathers raise GROWNUPS.
The father represent the law, the reality, the discipline in a familly. Motherhood is about giving and caring and. Fatherhood is the children wake up call to responsibility for a child.
Hopefully a public figure like Denzel can raise awareness about that
The bold ? on so many ? here raised by single mothers -
Denzel was right
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They got our boy. Pray that Chadwick holds the torch.....
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Life is credits and debits. Denzel has been too trill on too many occasions for me to write him off for one mishap.
He definitely ? up tho. -
Surprise surprise another pity party.
? need to grow up. -
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“It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure
85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
70% of youths in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Sept. 1988)
85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Fulton Co. Georgia, Texas Dept. of Correction)
So is y'all mad at Zel or y'all mad at the facts?
He didn't absolve the system, he said,
“It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them.”
Meaning through complicity of our own actions we make it easier for the system to ensnare our youth. -
optimistic wrote: »Yeah Rampart was started because of fatherless ?
States make deals guaranteeing prisons maintain a certain amount of inmates because ? can't behave at home
Sentencing is disproportionately harsher for people of color because...
None of that ? effects you unless you break the law.
That's routinely black folks problem. Once we decided a thing is unfair then whatever happens is happening because of the unfairness instead of because of individual behaviors.
The number of truly innocent people in jail is negligible, most of those ? really broke the law.
Instead of trying to educate people on how to survive without breaking the law, we typically complain about the law, complain about the courts, complain about the cops, complain about ? we have no immediate control over.
And the one thing we do have immediate control over, we surrender that control to continue the victim narrative.
Denzel's absolutely right. If you don't raise your kid to have good behaviors, to follow the laws, and to make good decisions you are almost guaranteeing they will end up in jail.
All this maybe true
But the simply fact is people, regardless of the "righteousness" of their upbringing will ? up and just plain make stupid horrible decisions including breaking the law
No one will argue that they shouldn't be held accountable for wrongdoing and sentence for it
But the major problem is that black people are disproportionately sentenced at a higher rate to longer jail/prison time than white people when they break the very same laws.
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I'll add a perfect example would be how they are calling the heroin epidemic that's tearing apart these low income white neighborhoods a "healthcare" problem, but called the ? epidemic, which ? up the black community a criminal problem
In order to unpack this honestly some things need to be done.
First, I do recognize that people fall short. Nobody is perfect, and people typically ? up when they're young.
The punitive nature of the system is indeed unfair, there's a lot of improvement to make.
However (now we get to the bolded), race is ONE variable. How many people took other variables into account?
Some states have harsher laws than others (three strikes, mandatory minimums etc)
The ability to negotiate sentence is another issue. Having a public defender versus a hired attorney.
Criminal history is a third. Repeat offenders are often given more time than others.
A lot of the social science on this doesn't control for all these variables. They look at national averages.
For the sake of argument, let's assume all of this is true. For starters, it's unconstitutional, a violation of the 14th amendment. This means one could sue the state.
The lack of lawsuits on the subject, despite all the discussion on it, should tell you something is up. The ACLU has been at this argument for awhile, various state legislatures and courts have been petitioned with the argument but I haven't seen any success. Maybe in the future.
To your edit:
That's verbal jiujitsu. It's also been 30 years in between the epidemics. The system has learned via overcrowding and the amount of money spent on drug rehabs, holding inmates in jail etc that unnecessary punitive attitudes do more harm than good.
You see a lot of individuals get early release from jail or get diverted from the system completely now. There's more programs, and more progressive attitudes than there used to be
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Like others said, we can all take steps to avoid it. It doesn't mean we can't call out the ? built within the system, though.
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everything starts at the home tho
