Truth about Thanksgiving (nice Read, not too long)

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by Macquirelatory Jackson on Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 11:25am



Imagine your family living in their own home on their own property, wouldn't that be nice? Then imagine a group of out of town people coming to your home and property, wanting to trade with you, seems like a good deal right? Then imagine you trading all you have with them, and taking in some of their valuables as well as you giving them some of yours, nothing is wrong with that right? Then imagine you teaching this group of out of town people how to grow certain foods, and invite them in your home and cook for them, out of a sincere hospitality, nothing wrong with that right? Then imagine calling them friends and then this out of town group take your family by force, and forced them into another home. Then imagine them setting fire to this home that consists of your family, and then burning your family as you watch being captive by this out of town group. That would devastate you right? You would literally lose your mind at the thought of your little nieces and nephews and mother and father and cousins and aunts and uncles and grandpa and grandmother all being murdered by the hands of people whom they thought were their friends, for no particular reason at all.Visualize how would you feel, if then this group of out of town people turn around after murdering your family, and proclaim in the name of their ? this atrocity to be a feast of thanks giving, to their ? for allowing them to conquer your family and murder them and for taking your land? Would you celebrate it? Wouldn't you wonder what ? are they giving thanks to for making your family a sacrifice offering?


How would you feel if this out of town group, then put you in one of their schools, and gave an account of them helping your family and having dinner with them, and then your family turned on them, and so they had to protect themselves against your family? How would you feel, knowing these same people who murdered your family, have now instituted a national day set aside just for giving thanks to their ? , under the disguise of being a national day of giving thanks to their ? for your blessings and family? How could you give thanks for something you don't have, remember, they killed your family, so how could this day bring any peace and joy for you? See what America calls "Thanksgiving", should be called "A National Day of Mourning for Native Indians". What you have to understand is that, growing up in American schools, you are not taught history, but instead your taught his story, which is the group of out of town people's, account of what has happened in history. When Christopher Columbus who's real name is Pedro Scotto, first came shore, he was greeted by the North American Indians with smiles, gifts, friendliness and food. They showed him and the soldiers with him sincere hospitality, out of the kindness of their hearts. Upon his encounter with the North American Indians, he wrote this in his log -


"They brought us parrots and ? of cotton and spears and many other things … they willingly traded everything they owned … They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane … They would make fine servants … With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”


FYI: So by his own account, this shows his intent was to conquer and enslave the Indians, which was the mission given unto him and the soldiers with him from the Knights Templar's. The Indians were not bothering anybody, at his own account they did not bear arms, they didn't have any weapons drawn at them. The Indians were at peace with them, despite knowing the intent of these Europeans, they still brought them gifts, cooked for them, and traded almost everything they owned with them.


Columbus wrote that the natives,“are so naïve and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone.”He also wrote,“I believe that they would easily be made Christians, because it seemed to me that they had no religion.”


So through their peace, they received small pox and whooping cough and other diseases, they received their buffalo being killed off, they received their families being split apart, they received death, and they were made to receive Christianity and Jesus as their Savior, and ? as their new Father in heaven. So they took a free society, without a monetary system or banking industry or stock market or religion, and transformed it into America. They took land that people lived on for free, and begin taxing people in order to live on the land in which they stole, but yet have the nerves to look upon Mexicans as being illegal immigrants, when these Europeans are really the illegal immigrants. Now this same land which was without churches, has become home of the Catholic Church and the harlots that sprung out of her, such as your Protestant and Methodist and Baptist, and Mormon, and Islam, and so forth, and the people who owned the land before European settlers deceived them and took their land, were forced to become Christians, and made to join these religions. So now you have a land that's governed through a corrupt hierarchical system of laws and regulations, instead of the laws and statutes and commandments of the Most High. The things that grew from the earth and given unto us by the Most High freely, have been taken captive, and are now treated as government possessions, that can be bought or sold.


Question: How does this government of America operate?


Micah 2:2 - And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.


FYI: Ask yourself, how did the Europeans gain control of America, was it not by coveting the fields of the Indians? Did they not poison and murder these people by way of violence just to get the land? They took away these people homes and land, and deceived them into signing bogus agreements, poisoned their family, in hopes of making the strong chiefs of the people bow down to their agreements upon seeing their family sick, and sign over their land. Then what did they do, took away their heritage and moved them to concentration camps known as reservations. They put forth their hands against people who were at peace with them, and despite all the treaties they proposed to the indians, they broke every covenant they made with them. Now how come your preachers and these televangelists and schools here in America, aren't teaching you this truth that happened in history?


Columbus also wrote:‘As soon as I arrived in the Indies, on the first Island which I found, I took some of the natives by force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts.’


FYI: Columbus was on a mission from the Knights Templar's to search the land for gold, in which upon his second expedition, he was given 17 ships and more than 1200 men. He was to search and find slaves and gold, so they went from island to island in the Caribbean taking Indians as captives, and roaming their land looking for gold. They took women and children as slaves for sex and labor. Along these ships with Columbus, were Catholic priests and wealthy Jewish men overseeing their investments, as where the Catholic Priests, were given boys for sex, and were given the mission to convert the Indians to Christianity. The soldiers on board, were allowed to ? women and little girls, in which Columbus himself in his log, spoke of how he took pleasure with an Indian woman after whipping her soundly with a piece of rope. Yet till this day, we have dumb black skin people talking about ? sex, and their ignorant behinds don't know that, their own women and daughters where the pleasure in ? to sick fantasy of Europeans who got off at whipping them, then having sex with them. Have the nerves to talk about being tied up and having sex, your mind just as out of sync as Flavor Flav's clock.


FYI: The Europeans words were smooth, that's why the Indians said they speak with fork tongue, cause the more and more they tried to make an agreement and peace, the Europeans pushed them further off the land until they placed them in reservations. Even though the Europeans put forth treaties and signed them, and spoke with great words, they had war in their heart and mind the whole time, as you see this to be true with the logs of Columbus himself. They were behind closed doors making maps on how they were going to control and distribute the land to the other Europeans that were coming over. Not only did they come over here with diseases, they came over here with a religion. Why, because you can't break down and destroy a people biologically, you got to destroy them spiritually, in which they gave them Jesus and ? . They were made to cut their hair down to a white boy shaven haircut, and they were made to choose a name out of the Christian book of names. They were given the holidays of the Europeans to keep, and as time went on, they slowly lost their heritage upon being converted into being Indians.

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FYI: By 1496, the settlers were responsible for 34 million native American deaths, but yet in your history books they depict Columbus to be this guy who bumped into America looking for a trade route to India. If these school books were truly history books, then they wouldn't be standardized, thus making them textbooks of his story, instead of history. So they teach your children lies in American schools, and you sit back as cowardly sheep punks allowing them to do so, instead of home schooling your children yourself. Columbus, the Conquistadors, the Pirates, and many pilgrims were hostile and ruthless groups of settlers who were collectively responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of North American Indians. When Columbus and the Europeans came to this country, Indians were already here, and through the conquest and through the teaching of Christianity, they took that understanding out of the earth.



Howard Zinn writes:“the Spaniards thought nothing of knifing Indians by tens and twenties and of cutting slices off them to test the sharpness of their blades … Las Cases says, ‘from 1494 to 1508 over three million people had perished from war, slavery, and the mines. Who in future generations will believe this? I myself writing it as a knowledgeable eyewitness can hardly believe it.’”



FYI: Now if he could hardly believe it back then, and he was an eyewitness to what happen to the these people, then think of how hard it would be for people to believe it now upon hearing it, despite it not being written in American history books? It would be almost fairy tale to them, just another conspiracy is how they would write it off, as if its nothing major, when a people were brutally murdered and ? and used and set on fire. After a Colonial Militia had returned from murdering the men and women and children of a Indian village, the governor proclaimed a holiday and feast to give thanks for the Massacre. That turkey you put in the oven fire and then eat on Thanksgiving, represents the flesh of the these people that was put inside their homes, and then burned alive. That giblet gravy you eating, are their guts, you nothing more than a sick cannibal and don't know it. That cranberry sauce you eating, represents the blood of these people, that prayer you offer up at dinner time, is to Satan, who has managed to deceive the nation into partaking into his wicked devices.



Question: Who are these Europeans really sacrificing their feast unto?1 Corinthians 10:20 - But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to ? : and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.



FYI: In order for you to eat that dinner, a turkey has to die before it can make it to your Walmart's and other grocery stores. So really, you are partaking in this satanic ritual done unto Satan all under the disguise of giving thanks to ? for your blessings and family. Yet you never stop to think, if 1 Corinthians 8:5 says that there are many gods, and this holiday as were told is to give thanks to ? , then what ? are we giving thanks to? Then you should ask yourself, if these people were ? and set on fire and murdered and forced off their land to reservations, then what ? would approve such behavior towards these people? Satan is the ? that would approve so, what has Satan done - 2 Corinthians 4:3 - In whom the ? of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of ? , should shine unto them. Satan has blinded the minds of the people, therefore they not seeking truth nor have any desire to hear it and believe it, so therefore, they are lost in the system of the devil.



FYI: A Catholic priest by the name of Bartolome De Las Cases, sailed to the "New World" in 1502, and being an eyewitness to the things that happened in the name of ? , wrote in his book "The Devastation of the Indies", this - “With my own eyes I saw Spaniards cut off the nose, hands and ears of Indians, male and female, without provocation, merely because it pleased them to do it … Likewise, I saw how they summoned the caciques and the chief rulers to come, assuring them safety, and when they peacefully came, they were taken captive and burned … (The Spaniards) took babies from their mothers’ ? , grabbing them by the feet and smashing their heads against rocks … They built a long gibbet, low enough for the toes to touch the ground and prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen at a time in honor of Christ Our Savior and the twelve Apostles. Then, straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive … When the Spaniards had collected a great deal of gold from the Indians, they shut them up in three big houses, crowding in as many as they could, then set fire to the houses, burning alive all that were in them, yet those Indians hand given no cause nor made any resistance …They would cut an Indian’s hands and leave them dangling by a shred of skin … they would test their swords and their manly strength on captured Indians and place bets on the slicing off of heads or cutting of bodies in half with one blow.”



FYI: Whats even more crazy is that, research shows that on every island Columbus quote on quote "discovered", he planted a cross there, thus claiming ownership for his Spanish Catholic patrons. Then to really show his Satanic character, he read declarations of Most High given rights to the native’s land in a language they couldn’t understand:



“I certify to you that, with the help of ? , we shall powerfully enter in your country and shall make war against you … and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church … and shall do you all mischief that we can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse to receive their lord and resist and contradict him.” D. Stannard, “American Holocaust”



Native American chief Hatuey was captured and burned alive by the Christians. As he was being tied down, a Franciscan friar urged Hatuey to take Jesus into his heart so that he may go to heaven and not hell. The chief replied that if heaven was where Christians went, he would rather go to hell. The North Americans and so called African Americans and Hispanics and so forth, were forced to be Christians as their slave master was, and was given the religion of what their slave master claimed. Deuteronomy 28:68 stated our people would go into slavery by way of ships, and would be sold to their enemies, in which we now know in the latter part of this prophecy these enemies to be called, Christians, for slave men and slave women.



So how did we become part of these religions?



Deuteronomy 28:64 - And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.



1. Sold to Mr. Johnson from Washington - Slave Master is Baptist

2. Sold to Mr. Smith from Virginia - Slave Master is Pentecostal

3. Sold to Mr. Jackson from Georgia - Slave Master is Methodist

4. Sold to Mr. Folse from Rhode Island - Slave Master is Seventh Day Adventist

5. Sold to Mr. Lewis from Kentucky - Slave Master is Catholic

6. Sold to Mr. Jones from Delaware - Slave Master is Protestant

7. Sold to Mr. Brown from Maine - Slave Master is Lutheran

8. Sold to Mr. Allen from New York - Slave Master is Jehovah's Witnesses

9. Sold to Mr. Reese from North Carolina - Slave Master is Apostolic

10. Sold to Mr. Robinson from Alabama - Slave Master is Presbyterian

11. Sold to Mr. Parks from California - Slave Master is Mormon

12. Sold to Mr. Muhammad from Pennsylvania - Slave Master is Muslim

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FYI: So through being sold upon auction blocks, was another way of how Israel was scattered throughout all nations upon the earth. So with each Master of a nation buying them, they took on the Master's last name as showing they were the property of their Master, and they took on the religions and holidays of their Masters. So just as their enemies were Christians, they had to become also, so whatever ? their Master's worshiped, they had to worship also, in which this is one way they begin to worship other gods. The name Christopher Columbus is a false name, its actually a symbol, not of a man, but of Western Imperialism and Colonialism, which are still happening today. The government exploits a people, whom they have taken out of their land, then forces them into submission thus putting them in an economic down slope and making them no longer independent, but dependent upon their system, then move them to lower income housing areas, then setup foreigner stores in their community to further exploit them. We all know of the Holocaust that happen to the so called African Americans, but we can't forget about the one that happened to the Indians. So what the people are celebrating, is the death and destruction of the Indian people, now why would The Most High ? of Israel hear your prayers of thanks giving, when he wasn't deceived like you are, but actually know and remember what happened to the Indian people? Folks you are playing with fire in the keeping of these holidays sacrificed unto devils.



FYI: Who appointed these feasts which are kept on the Gregorian Calendar here in America, if it wasn't the Most High? The Europeans did, and we being the Most High's chosen people, observe any and everything these heathenistic nations give us, without doing no research on the origins of these customs and traditions. The Most High hate your thanksgiving, its meaningless, it has nothing to do with him, they all about satanic rituals and customs and feasts all done unto Satan. The North American Indians are our brothers of the human family and struggle, and you partaking in a feast which gives Satan honor for helping Europeans ? and steal the land and murder the Indian people, your brothers. Don't you know that by partaking in this holiday you show you hate your brother, which makes you a murderer. You got to be spiritually ? to observe and partake in such cow ? , maybe you wouldn't do so if your children were ? and murdered, or would you? So if a car happens to jump the curb and hits your child and kills them, and you done partook in this wicked holiday, then why should you mourn at the death of your own child and not at the death of the Indian children? This shows you would be a hypocrite on your way hell if you didn't repent, cause whatsoever comes upon your children, is JUST.



FYI: So when you spread forth your hands and pray over that Thanksgiving turkey, the Most High is not even going to be looking. When you say your prayers of thanks for your blessings and family, the Most High not even going to hear you, why, cause your hands are full of blood. Who's blood, the blood of the North American Indians. Question: Why, what is your judgment if they don't receive the truth and let it run down and stop celebrating these satanic holidays of the world which man commanded to be observed?



Colossians 2:22 - Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?



FYI: You are going to hell for keeping the commandments and doctrines of men, cause the Most High never gave them to you they have nothing to do with him, he said he hate them. So get ready dress warm and eat your heart out brothers and sisters, cause you going to hell later. Shalom

Chike

What a virus upon this earth. They're not even ashamed of this either...

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Chike wrote: »

What a virus upon this earth. They're not even ashamed of this either...

who you tellin, they have a holiday built around this so of course they are not ashamed.

Israelites

Young-Ice wrote: »

I thought jews don't believe in hell, but rather purgatory ?

are you reffering to the true jews or the jew wish ppl?

In this article when the brother is speaking on hell he is speaking about the "lake of fire"

if we go into the scriptures we would know that "hell" is a state of condition (not being able to pay your bills, being out of a job,working long hours & still not being able to see the fruit of your labor, hiding your veh from the repo man,etc...thats hell), also we learn that hell is the grave (after we die we go back into the dust from whence we came), Death is a punishment for sin.
But the lake of fire is whole another place that spirit beings will dwell (since spirits can't die) & will be tortured IF we don't make it into the Father's Kingdom which will be here on earth.

& you also have to understand, the true Jews are apart of the 12 tribes of Israel, Judah was the 4th son to Jacob who later became Israel (which is one of the Most High names), the ppl that's claiming to be the jews of today are none other than the seed of Esau (which was Jacob's older brother). They were dwelling in the land of Idumea before taking over the land known as Israel today, (one sign ppl fell to take heed to, is when the real Israelites are back in the land, there will be no more war)... The Most High has control over all & He is the one allowing the war to go on with Palastine & Israel...(fyi: it won't ever come to an end until His return)

Disciplined InSight

Wow...just...wow.

Who gonna try and dispute this? (And when I mean who I mean racists.)

Tupacfan

I appreciate this story right here.

It's crazy how thanksgiving is just a made up ass holiday covering a bunch of bs..

The truth has to be spoken, and I will contine to seek determination for liberation..

Rock_Well

the story make my stomach turn

heyslick wrote: »

Why try in and defend/or dispute those actions when this historical diatribe is posted every year and the same old redundant rhetoric is spewed OVER AND OVER again and again over and over and over again and again. YEAH! wallow in the ? and blame the wicked and evil white people for it and it's always certain individuals who pull this stunt. Notice how they post what some radical Professor etc. has written & THEYcan't even provide their own material,LET alone tell the complete story and statistics regarding this storyline. OH btw that you're A RACIST Bs is getting mighty ? old.

what are you talking about? you didn't see the source material being cited in the post?

Israelites

heyslick wrote: »

I betcha the hypocrite who re-posted/ripped off this story DID NOT get permission from the author (s) 2006 Copyright (c) Macquirelatory.......you wanna bet on.

don't be upset by the actions of your ppl bro, no one is innocent, we all have blood on our hands... & thanks for being concerned, I know the brother personally... so how much you wanna bet?

Tupacfan

In my heart my thanksgiving is everyday. From the morning star to the moon and the stars…It is our duty to thank the great mystery for all that is. See we do not try to define the indefinable…the mysterious one, the great mystery. And the world that the great mystery provides for everyone is destiny…When you begin the day with a thank you prayer and you live the day in thanksgiving…that is when you begin to understand that there is no such thing as possessions. Everything, everything belongs to everyone. With that philosophy as “primitive” as it may sound is how we live in this land…I come from a people who are very romantic…Whomever is non Indian and has their view point of us I invite them to come live with us..Not among those who have been schooled in your schools, I am talking about those who are still free, still following the ways of their ancestors. They are very few and far between but you can still find them in the western hemisphere…and find out like I have about their language, because language will tell you the hearts of the men. Those types of languages that are not as expressive as mine they have a limited world view. Thanksgiving! We did give you land, we did give you food, we did teach you how to use the food, plant the food, nourish the food, harvest the food, and how to cook the food. You see it is also a fact, a scientific fact, that the American Indian people has provided the world with 75% of the world’s food stuffs. 75%. I’ll give you some examples; you know we did not create corn it was given to us, but we did develop 6000 species of corn as we developed 10000 species of potatoes. And tomatoes, all kinds of tomatoes…Now the evil “possession”. Why is that so important to posses rather than to give?…I have noticed in all my travels that there is no celebration for taking…I am yet to find a celebration for taking–possessing…Why is it that is the main force in the world we live in except for a couple of days one in November and one in December? Why? I am not familiar with the art of possession, possessing! You know that is why there is war…there is war because of their need to possess. Is it because of greed? Is it because of selfishness? Is it because of fear? Or is it because of all of the above? Why celebrate thanksgiving, and giving, period, just one day out of the year? Why not every day? Why not every hour? Why not every night? …

Russell Means
www.russellmeansfreedom.com/2010/thanks-taking/

Tupacfan

The (Rotten) Roots of “The Tree”…

“Manifest Destiny”

In 1845, a democratic leader and influential editor by the name of John L. O’Sullivan gave the movement its name. In an attempt to explain America’s thirst for expansion, and to present a defense for America’s claim to new territories he wrote:
“…. the right of our manifest destiny to over spread and to possess the whole of the continent which Providence has given us for the development of the great experiment of liberty and federaltive development of self government entrusted to us. It is right such as that of the tree to the space of air and the earth suitable for the full expansion of its principle and destiny of growth.”

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/E/manifest/manif1.htm#man

“The Requirement”

“I implore you to recognize the Church as a lady and in the name of the Pope take the King as lord of this land and obey his mandates. If you do not do it, I tell you that with the help of ? I will enter powerfully against you all. I will make war everywhere and every way that I can. I will take your women and children and make them slaves….The deaths and injuries you will receive from here on will be your own fault and not that of his majesty nor of the gentlemen that accompany me.”
“The Requirement”, read by Spaniards to native tribes they encountered in the “New World”.

“European ‘Christian’ invaders systematically killed the aboriginal people because they felt that their beliefs were “ungodly.” The invaders started the genocide of the Native Americans by using warfare, death marches, destruction of their food supply, and poisoning. The genocide against the Native Americans was one of the most destructive, longest lasting genocides in the history of the Earth.In the early 18th century states such as: Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey promoted vigilantism of the settlers. The government feared the Native people and felt that they were a threat to society so they began “scalp bounty” on dead Indians. In many areas the killing of Indians became a business to the point where a person would be paid 100 pounds for killing a Native American. In the 18th century George Washington called the Native Americans “beasts of prey” and called for their total annihilation. In 1814, Andrew Jackson watched as his men brutally murdered 800 or more Creek Indians. Extermination of all surviving Indians was encouraged publicly by the Governor of California in 1851. In 1867, General William Tecumseh Sherman said, “We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux even to their extermination: men, women and children.” From 1848 to 1870 over 120,000 Native Americans in California died, over 60 percent of those died from disease. However, the diseases were brought by the “49ers” so in a way the settlers were still killing the Indians, just in a different way.

Most of the massacre happened while the government was making “treaties” with the Native Americans.
Daniel Stirewalt
Genocide of Native Americans in the Early 18th Century

http://eee.uci.edu/clients/tcthorne/anthro/indiantimes/index.html

“It is a deep thing that people still celebrate the survival of the early colonists at Plymouth … The real meaning of all that, then and now, needs to be continually excavated. The myths and lies that surround the past are constantly draped over the horrors and tortures of our present…Thanksgiving is a story of the murder of indigenous people and the theft of their land by European colonialists–and of the ruthless ways of capitalism…”
Mike Ely
Native Blood: The Myth of Thanksgiving

http://bermudaradical.blogspot.com/2008/10/native-blood-myth-of-thanksgiving-by.html

“The original Europeans in the Americas were not immigrants, but colonists. And the US is not a nation of immigrants – it is a white colonial settler state, like South Africa under Apartheid, the former Rhodesia, Australia and Israel.”

Juan Santos
Immigration: A Nation of Colonists and Race Laws

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Apr06/Santos07.htm

Nobody but Americans celebrates Thanksgiving. It is reserved by history
and the intent of “the founders” as the supremely white American holiday,
the most ghoulish event on the national calendar. No Halloween of the
imagination can rival the exterminationist reality that was the genesis,
and remains the legacy, of the American Thanksgiving. It is the most
loathsome, humanity-insulting day of the year – a pure glorification of
racist barbarity.

We at are thankful that the day grows nearer when the almost four
centuries-old abomination will be deprived of its reason for being: white
supremacy. Then we may all eat and drink in peace and gratitude for the
blessings of humanity’s deliverance from the rule of evil men.

Black Commentator
The End of American Thanksgivings Will Be a Cause for Universal Rejoicing

http://www.blackcommentator.com/66/66_cover_thanksgiving.html

“The United States of America , was brought into existence through the massive, brutal enslavement of Black people and genocide of the Indigenous Red peoples. No amount of waffling or attempts to revise history can change this despicable reality. Moreover, even the continued existence of this nation is, in fact, based upon the deliberate maintenance of a massive system of racial, economic, judicial, and social exploitation – coupled with huge doses of hypocrisy and subterfuge.”

Larry Pinkney

http://www.blackcommentator.com/277/277_kir_importance_reparations_self_determination_printer_friendly.html

The people who now describe themselves as `Americans’ actually stole their country from the Native Americans.
They put the Indians in reservations (which got smaller and smaller). The Indians were civilised and spiritual but they had no guns and were an easy target. America was stolen by force.

At a meeting in New England in 1640 the following motions were put to the assembly.

1. The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof.
2. The Lord may give the earth or any part of it to his chosen people.
3. We are his chosen people.

Naturally the assembled bunch of smug, barbarians voted `yes’ to all these motions, and thereby sanctified (in their minds) the theft of a nation.

It was generally agreed that the Indians were savages with no rights and yet both the American constitution and the Declaration of Independence were based on texts devised and used by Native American Indians – texts which included fundamental ideas on liberty, freedom and even legislature.

The American Government signed 370 treaties with the Native Indians but violated provisions in every one of these treaties.

The Americans now celebrate the theft of the country they call their own with a feast called Thanksgiving.

Taken from `Rogue Nation’ by Vernon Coleman, published by Blue Books and available from the shop on this website.
www.vernoncoleman.com/thetruth.htm

What happened was not merely tragic, it was diabolical

“The beast that digs and forges and consumes, blind to everything but its immediate needs, is then no longer the individual man…

In the past two hundred years the European has destroyed or corrupted a great number of ancient cultures which, if we have the courage and the honesty to look into the mirror they provide, show us all that we need to know of ourselves….

the most illuminating examples lie in the very heartland of the modern [western] world- in the encounter between the invading palefaced people and the Indians of North America…

What happened was not merely tragic, it was diabolical…

The conscious, calculated, methodical, official, and by no means anonymous destruction of the “red” race, its traditions and cultures, in North America and partly also in South America, far from being an unavoidable process….certainly remains one of the greatest crimes and most notable vandalisms of all human history. Since the presence in their midst of people who find meaning in the world is intolerable to those who think themselves the victims of a meaningless universe, the basic structure of the Indian’s spiritual life had to be destroyed…

These invaders [the Europeans] differed from all others…they alone had achieved the capacity to look upon everything in creation as material for exploitation, seeing a tree only as timber, a lamb only as meat, and a mountain only as the site for a quarry. This single-minded rapacity now taken for granted as natural to man was so strange to the Indians…that the invaders might as well have come from another planet…

the combination of greed and fraud and perfidy which they encountered in their dealings with the white man Nothing in their previous experience had forewarned them that men could be like that…..the invaders though to Indian eyes they appeared ignorant, physically ? , mostly drunken and, in general, both Godless and lawless, carried dreadful weapons in their hands and enjoyed all the advantages which the unprincipled enjoy in their dealings with those for whom honour is paramount. The hordes spread out over a land of almost magical richness…and congratulated themselves upon pursuing so worthily their “civilizing mission.”

For the victims of this mission there could only be…sadness deeper than imagination can hold- sadness of men completely conscious, watching the universe being destroyed by a numberless and scorning foe…”

? Eaton, King of the Castle: Choice and Responsibility in the Modern World, P.131, 133-134

“Iniquity, committed in this world, produces not fruit immediately, but, like the earth, in due season, and advancing by little and little, it eradicates the man [/men]who committed it. …justice, being destroyed, will destroy; being preserved, will preserve; it must never therefore be violated.”
Manu 1200 bc

Tupacfan

heyslick wrote: »

Israelites




Now this was taken from my post above Civilizations rose and fell, and indigenous peoples migrated long before Europeans arrived on the scene. The indigenous population in 1492 was not necessarily at a high point and may actually have been in decline in some areas SO your guy says one thing and my info says otherwise.....SO who's zooming who? HOW in the ? are the settlers responsible for 34 million native America Indians deaths, given these facts.

Not sure where your resources are from.. but remember history books are written in the eyes of the victory (europeans, coloners) whatever you wanna call em.

The Native Americans are victims of genocide, Don't tell me no either.. its very relevant..

why is how the west was won invented? who invented that sentence?

A lot of native americans lived out west, we were pushed out west from the plains.. now when settelers started to migrate, most of these reservations were destroyed by them, we were plauged with disease. I know so, my people walked the long way, which we were forced to walk 300 something miles and relocate from our reservations.. during this walk, many many children and women were killed, rapped, and enslaved..

So dont tell me settlers aren't responsible for killing something odd numbers of Native Americans.. They have, it has been foretold by my great great grandfathers and elders.. They lived it, and luckily I was old enough to understand and grasp the history of my people..

Tupacfan

heyslick wrote: »

"The falsification of history has done more to mislead humans than any single thing known to mankind.”

JeanJacques Rousseau


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/atlantean_conspiracy/atlantean_conspiracy42.htm

Who is responsible for the falsification of history?

I didn't check the link so yea....

Disciplined InSight

ether-i-am wrote: »

Gods work.
They thought they was Moses and the isrealites.

No ether-i-am...NO.

Israelites

ether-i-am wrote: »

Gods work.
They thought they was Moses and the isrealites.

i can see why you would say that, but you must understand, Israelites were given commands to take over certains land by force & if you read the book you will see the Most High advised the Israelites that the land was given unto them ONLY because the ppl of those lands were wicked & their sins had been fulfilled(its like having a cup & everytime you sinned against the Lord water would fill the cup & once it got to a point where the cup overflows, the ppl had to be killed... not murdered).. Once ppl realize the wages of sin is death they will understand why the ? of Israel gave orders to ? off certain nations... Also He advised the Israelites, don't think they you are so righteous that I'm giving you this land, its just that the ppl that were being killed were that wicked in the eyes of the Most High.


Exodus 34:10-17 (King James Version)

10And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.

11Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

12Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

13Butye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

14For thou shalt worship no other ? : for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous ? :

15Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a ? after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

16And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a ? after their gods, and make thy sons go a ? after their gods.

17Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.




Leviticus 18:2-5 (King James Version)

2Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the LORD your ? .

3After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.

4Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your ? .

5Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.



Leviticus 18:24-26 (King James Version)

24Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

25And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

26Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

27(For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled)

28That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.



Deuteronomy 9:3-5 (King James Version)

3Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy ? is he which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said unto thee.

4Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the LORD thy ? hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the LORD hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD doth drive them out from before thee.

5Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD thy ? doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Israelites

ether-i-am wrote: »

Mass Murder
*** The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon.* Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon.* (Judges 20:48 NAB)

Micah Kills a Whole Town*
*** Then, with Micah's idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure. *They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground.* There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. *This happened in the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the town and lived there.* They renamed the town Dan after their ancestor, Israel's son, but it had originally been called Laish. *(Judges 18:27-29 NLT) *(Note that ? approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)




What the ? is the difference???????
It's the ? Book!!!!!!!
The ? book is the true source of evil!!!!!
Everywhere that damn book goes the ? story repeats!!!!!!
For the same ? ? !!!!!

that's something you will have to take up w/the Most High,

Chef_Taylor

Thank you tupac fan..ive been saying that for years which would be "EVERYDAY IS THANKSGIVING" But it doesnt surprise me what white people want you to believe and what most others won't take out time to find the truth.My relatives look at me crazy when i say i dont celebrate thanksgiving or christmas or any other bogus "holiday".

DrMindbender122

Y'all need to get up on this book I read while taking a Black History class in college. The book is called "Before The Mayflower" by Lerone Bennnet, Jr. It discusses African American history, as well as touch on how the Native Americans got done totally ? by the Explorers. This book should be made standard curriculum in ALL High Schools in America. It discusses stuff that won't even be touched in High School history courses. It touches on how Europeans pratically shoved their traditions, religion, disease, etc down the collective mouths of Black slaves AND Native Americans.

This book talks about the true origin of the KKK, the injustices that several Black History notaries (WEB Dubois, Booker T. Washington, Malcolm X, Nat Turner, etc) went through in graphic detail. It discusses how lynching in the South was so common-place that it was deemed a public specticle and right of passage. It talks about how Native Americans and Blacks had a common plight in enduring the Jim Crow eras of the deep South. It discusses how when Native Americans raided White settlements, they often spared Black slaves.

For those of you how have an interest in reading an unadulterated history of America, I strongly suggest reading this book. I came away not angry on some Black Power militant ? ; I came away angry at how history as a whole is sugarcoated and made into 110% false propaganda by most.

Disciplined InSight

ether-i-am wrote: »

Mass Murder
*** The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon.* Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon.* (Judges 20:48 NAB)

Micah Kills a Whole Town*
*** Then, with Micah's idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure. *They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground.* There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. *This happened in the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the town and lived there.* They renamed the town Dan after their ancestor, Israel's son, but it had originally been called Laish. *(Judges 18:27-29 NLT) *(Note that ? approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)




What the ? is the difference???????
It's the ? Book!!!!!!!
The ? book is the true source of evil!!!!!
Everywhere that damn book goes the ? story repeats!!!!!!
For the same ? ? !!!!!

ether-i-am wrote: »

Whose to say that ? wasn't talking to Columbus?

Your misunderstanding of scripture is amusing....

...whenever you post up a script and get to finger pointing and blame The Most High for the evil of men..you gotta understand THE WHOLE CONTEXT...and connect it to what you posted up tell you what led to that. If you read the WHOLE CHAPTER of Judges 18..it showcased how Micah brought in idolatry to the tribe of Dan and how the sin of idolatry affected that entire tribe to the point they(the children of Dan) took Micah's own idols because they thought "it was the right thing to do in their eyes"..The tribe then took over another city (Laish and renamed it Dan) and set up shop to fulfill their false idol worship in that land, due to fact they wasn't under any rule, with the exception of the rule The Most High. There was always individual idolatry in Israel, but that event set up it officially as a whole.

All of that wasn't ordained by Yah...it was ordained by THEIR OWN ? of sin and rebellion. The same with Columbus...He was appointed by those who were evil opportunists, who had a ? for greed and power and used bloodthirsty means to get what didn't belong to them.

Chef_Taylor

DrMindbender122 wrote: »

Y'all need to get up on this book I read while taking a Black History class in college. The book is called "Before The Mayflower" by Lerone Bennnet, Jr. It discusses African American history, as well as touch on how the Native Americans got done totally ? by the Explorers. This book should be made standard curriculum in ALL High Schools in America. It discusses stuff that won't even be touched in High School history courses. It touches on how Europeans pratically shoved their traditions, religion, disease, etc down the collective mouths of Black slaves AND Native Americans.

This book talks about the true origin of the KKK, the injustices that several Black History notaries (WEB Dubois, Booker T. Washington, Malcolm X, Nat Turner, etc) went through in graphic detail. It discusses how lynching in the South was so common-place that it was deemed a public specticle and right of passage. It talks about how Native Americans and Blacks had a common plight in enduring the Jim Crow eras of the deep South. It discusses how when Native Americans raided White settlements, they often spared Black slaves.

For those of you how have an interest in reading an unadulterated history of America, I strongly suggest reading this book. I came away not angry on some Black Power militant ? ; I came away angry at how history as a whole is sugarcoated and made into 110% false propaganda by most.

Now you know DAMNNNN well anything that has to do with white guilt will not get noticed specially in PUBLIC SCHOOLS.Things like this, people have to go out on there own and purchase.

DrMindbender122

doubletee wrote: »

Now you know DAMNNNN well anything that has to do with white guilt will not get noticed specially in PUBLIC SCHOOLS.Things like this, people have to go out on there own and purchase.

Dude, this book literally blew my mind. I purposely kept it after I got finished with that class. I ever have kids, they're reading that book. That ? talks about Hollywood, the Civil War, the ? up Sharecropping sytem and it was used to basically keep slavery alive & well AFTER it had supposedly ended, gives detail after detail about how Lincoln didn't give a ? about Slavery, but used ending it as a means to integrate Black soldiers into the war after they realized that numerous White soldiers were being slaughtered on the daily, etc., etc., etc.

Chef_Taylor

DrMindbender122 wrote: »

Dude, this book literally blew my mind. I purposely kept it after I got finished with that class. I ever have kids, they're reading that book. That ? talks about Hollywood, the Civil War, the ? up Sharecropping sytem and it was used to basically keep slavery alive & well AFTER it had supposedly ended, gives detail after detail about how Lincoln didn't give a ? about Slavery, but used ending it as a means to integrate Black soldiers into the war after they realized that numerous White soldiers were being slaughtered on the daily, etc., etc., etc.

Looks like something I should purchase.

VulcanRaven

Any one who has been to school should know the history.You act like you are dropping knowledge.It does not matter what happened before because the Holiday is far removed from the history.At the end of the day,it's irrelevant and i will continue to enjoy the Holiday as I have since I was 5 years old.The history has nothing to do with me and my family coming together for a good time.

VulcanRaven

doubletee wrote: »

Now you know DAMNNNN well anything that has to do with white guilt will not get noticed specially in PUBLIC SCHOOLS.Things like this, people have to go out on there own and purchase.

Why should white people feel guilty? Not every one who is white was a slave trader,a racist or have ancestors who were? When I was in school they had books about the injustices of Europeans upon blacks and I even had a white teacher apologize for the history even though she had no part -was not even- born during those times.? is history for a reason and I don't see no point in holding on to something that I did not experience and that I can not change anyway.

KTULU IS BACK

Notice that there are no sources cited in the first post.

It's all ? .

And it relies heavily on the Bible, which guarantees that it's all ? .

And LOL at Colombus being on a secret mission from the "Knights Templar." Internet conspiracy theorists will believe anything.