I just finished reading Che Guevara´s biography and it touched my heart.
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KTULU IS BACK wrote: »Che murdered women and children.
Stalin didn't do that.
Well, if you mean "didn't personally preside over firing squads", then yes.
Stalin was a BAWSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssssss.
? standing out in the snow shooting families when you can be reading Pravda in front of the fireplace. -
KTULU IS BACK wrote: »um no, stalin was probly the most moral human being of the 20th century
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people don't know about Gandhi's purges -
btw, this is clearly the GOAT Che shirt:
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Swiffness! wrote: »btw, this is clearly the GOAT Che shirt:
Haha the irony. -
at what point does professing to love Stalin stop being awesomeKTULU IS BACK wrote: »um no, stalin was probly the most moral human being of the 20th century
i am blaming this horrible analysis on your deep-seated hatred towards me for reasons regarding either vote rigging or RACIST OPPRESSIONshootemwon wrote: »I think Stalin was a decent guy as well. Don't treat your biased opinions like facts janklow -
Che was great for his time period and is an Icon of Revolutionary Communism just like Huey P Newton. Both had flaws and ideologies that need an updating this century.
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In this world, you will always have your supporters and detractors. Just make sure you get the job done regardless of that, and this is what Che did. He will remain a legend.
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musicology1985 wrote: »Just make sure you get the job done regardless of that, and this is what Che did.
yeah, word to those successful socialist revolutions in Bolivia and The Congo -
Haha the irony.
Really can't overstate it. The iconic picture of Che is public domain, so anybody can print it on t-shirts and sell it without regard to copyright or royalties.
Get the t-shirt for $1.33, stamp Che's mug on it for $0.75, sell them ? for $20 a pop to dumb Marxists.
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Swiffness! wrote: »Really can't overstate it. The iconic picture of Che is public domain, so anybody can print it on t-shirts and sell it without regard to copyright or royalties.
Get the t-shirt for $1.33, stamp Che's mug on it for $0.75, sell them ? for $20 a pop to dumb Marxists.
Beautiful. Cash Rules.
For what Che initially set out to do, he got the job done and certain westerners like you and many others are still mad about it til this day. Capitalism's not perfect and nor is Communism, but Che did the latter to the fullest in the U.S.'s 3rd world backyard.
Now, he wanted to continue spreading the message of Revolution worldwide and it's only so much of that anyone with limited resources can do. Nevertheless, he went out doing what he loved. -
People don't understand that AT THAT TIME, what Che was doing was right in the eyes of many people. Even Malcolm X was cool with Fidel and his followers and went to meet them. Many blacks & whites were fighting a war against the U.S. within the states and J Edgar Hoover's FBI was fighting back vigorously, but there were strong levels of conflict from 1965-1970, which toned down in the 70's and was finally wrapped up with the apprehension of Mutulu Shakur (2Pac's step dad) in 1986.
Now I agree that Communism needs an update, but overall the revolution was needed.
Edit: Also remember that Mutulu was able to break his sister Assata Shakur who was wrongfully imprisoned, out to the safe haven of Cuba. If it wasn't for Che & Fidel's successful Revolution, she'd probably be doing football numbers in the U.S. Prison System for no reason other than fighting for human rights. -
musicology1985 wrote: »People don't understand that AT THAT TIME, what Che was doing was right in the eyes of many people. Even Malcolm X was cool with Fidel and his followers and went to meet them. Many blacks & whites were fighting a war against the U.S. within the states and J Edgar Hoover's FBI was fighting back vigorously, but there were strong levels of conflict from 1965-1970, which toned down in the 70's and was finally wrapped up with the apprehension of Mutulu Shakur (2Pac's step dad) in 1986.
Now I agree that Communism needs an update, but overall the revolution was needed.
Edit: Also remember that Mutulu was able to break his sister Assata Shakur who was wrongfully imprisoned, out to the safe haven of Cuba. If it wasn't for Che & Fidel's successful Revolution, she'd probably be doing football numbers in the U.S. Prison System for no reason other than fighting for human rights.
you can use that argument for about any ? up course of events in human history...and the real reason Assata Shakur has remained in Cuba is because Castro hates the US and it's like giving them a ? you for decades -
you can use that argument for about any ? up course of events in human history...and the real reason Assata Shakur has remained in Cuba is because Castro hates the US and it's like giving them a ? you for decades
First of all, I don't view what Fidel, Che, Malcolm, Mutulu and Assata did as a ? up course in human history. That's your view. Again, if it wasn't for Che and Fidel, some African American Revolutionaries would not have had a safe haven from the U.S. When you share a common enemy, it's best to stick together. You're trying to put a negative slant on it (you work for CNN so it's not a suprise) when nothing in regards to this Assata situation has been that. -
@blackrain
I applaud those who had the courage to do what they did. They picked up arms against the strongest military and law enforcement power in the world for the cause of human rights. However, I have stated numerous times that Communism needs an update; in particular, Cuban and possibly, North Korean. Russia and China appear to have already done theirs. -
like when he freed Cuba from a dictatorship! oh... no... wait...musicology1985 wrote: »For what Che initially set out to do, he got the job done-
let's not talk about all the things that Che did wrong in this thread about how Che Guevara is the greatest human being of the last 5000 yearsSwiffness! wrote: »yeah, word to those successful socialist revolutions in Bolivia and The Congo -
let's not talk about all the things that Che did wrong in this thread about how Che Guevara is the greatest human being of the last 5000 years
The next time there's a thread about guns rights I'm going to smugly imply that you think guns cannot be dangerous to anyone ever no matter what. -
KTULU IS BACK wrote: »Che murdered women and children.
Stalin didn't do that.
that's true. he starved them. -
what if this happens to be my actual positionshootemwon wrote: »The next time there's a thread about guns rights I'm going to smugly imply that you think guns cannot be dangerous to anyone ever no matter what. -
what if this happens to be my actual position
Then you'd be as stupid as you're acting in this thread. -
one of these days we're going to have to get you to consistently post like an adult. ? forbid we use sarcasm when discussing over-hyped figures from history!shootemwon wrote: »Then you'd be as stupid as you're acting in this thread. -
one of these days we're going to have to get you to consistently post like an adult. ? forbid we use sarcasm when discussing over-hyped figures from history!
I'm about to win The 2010 Poster of the Year Award, suck on that. -
i heard some dudes rigged that voteshootemwon wrote: »I'm about to win The 2010 Poster of the Year Award, suck on that. -
shootemwon wrote: »The next time there's a thread about guns rights I'm going to smugly imply that you think guns cannot be dangerous to anyone ever no matter what.
Good luck in that lawless post-apocalyptic wasteland without any guns or ammo, hippie. -
and lol @ shootem catching feelings
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Swiffness and i are going to rule the nuclear-blasted wastes like tiny, fragile godsSwiffness! wrote: »Good luck in that lawless post-apocalyptic wasteland without any guns or ammo, hippie.
