LL Cool J -Phenomenon Album 20 years later

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Matike85
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edited October 2017 in The Reason
LL Cool J Phenomenon album came out October 14, 1997 at the Peak of his Rap Career... The album is executively produced by Sean "Puffy" Combs and therefore features production from his in-house roster of producers The Hitmen. One the song 4321 LL Cool J self proclaimed himself as the GOAT.

Where is LL Cool J on the GOAT list today Thoughts?
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  • x the unknown
    x the unknown Members Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    never heard the album
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  • Matike85
    Matike85 Members Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    x the unknown wrote: »
    never heard the album

    It's worth a listen... this is arguably the last LL Cool J lyrical content album.
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  • x the unknown
    x the unknown Members Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Matike85 wrote: »
    x the unknown wrote: »
    never heard the album

    It's worth a listen... this is arguably the last LL Cool J lyrical content album.

    I check it out later on
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  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    x the unknown wrote: »
    never heard the album

    Cosign.

    I thought Phenomenon was cool and 4,3,2,1 is one of the best posse jams in the history of Hip Hop but I had no interest in hearing the whole album at the time.

    Having said that, LL is top 10 all time. Its just that I listened to his earlier stuff, like his first two albums.
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  • x the unknown
    x the unknown Members Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    after mr smith I stop listening to him
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  • x the unknown
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    nah I'm good too much love songs for me
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  • sapp08_2001
    sapp08_2001 Members Posts: 7,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dope album. I remember when that phenomenon video dropped and he was acting like he was playin the guitar with shorty's leg. LMAO
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  • THE_R_
    THE_R_ Members Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    4321 IS A CLASSIC, BUT THIS WAS A GARBAGE ALBUM...
    HE TRIED TO DO ANOTHER DOIN' IT W/ SHORTY & KEITH SWEAT...
    THE NEW EDITION & GEORGE MICHAEL REMAKES...NAH SON...
    I DIDN'T LIKE PUFF'S DIRECTION ON THIS AT ALL...

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  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    4321 IS A CLASSIC, BUT THIS WAS A GARBAGE ALBUM...
    HE TRIED TO DO ANOTHER DOIN' IT W/ SHORTY & KEITH SWEAT...
    THE NEW EDITION & GEORGE MICHAEL REMAKES...NAH SON...
    I DIDN'T LIKE PUFF'S DIRECTION ON THIS AT ALL...

    I never heard the album, but I believe you.

    I don't remember anybody hyping up this album.
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  • Nechesh358
    Nechesh358 Members Posts: 276 ✭✭
    edited October 2017
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    this was lls last album i bought or even listened to entirely. i doubt i spun it more than a couple times. ? was highly disappointing.

    ll is top 15 all time.
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  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nechesh358 wrote: »
    this was lls last album i bought or even listened to entirely. i doubt i spun it more than a couple times. ? was highly disappointing.

    ll is top 15 all time.

    Actually he had an album called 10 that was decent. It had Luv U Better, Paradise feat Amerie and All I Have feat J. Lo.
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  • x the unknown
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    THE_R_ wrote: »
    4321 IS A CLASSIC, BUT THIS WAS A GARBAGE ALBUM...
    HE TRIED TO DO ANOTHER DOIN' IT W/ SHORTY & KEITH SWEAT...
    THE NEW EDITION & GEORGE MICHAEL REMAKES...NAH SON...
    I DIDN'T LIKE PUFF'S DIRECTION ON THIS AT ALL...

    I never heard the album, but I believe you.

    I don't remember anybody hyping up this album.

    don't waste your time
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  • KillaCham
    KillaCham Members, Moderators Posts: 11,417 Regulator
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    4321 IS A CLASSIC, BUT THIS WAS A GARBAGE ALBUM...
    HE TRIED TO DO ANOTHER DOIN' IT W/ SHORTY & KEITH SWEAT...
    THE NEW EDITION & GEORGE MICHAEL REMAKES...NAH SON...
    I DIDN'T LIKE PUFF'S DIRECTION ON THIS AT ALL...
    Co-sign. I grew up on LL mainly because my big cousin was a huge fan and even back then I knew that this was a major let down after the Mr. Smith era. LL did not fit that Bad Boy mold at all.
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  • KillaCham
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Nechesh358 wrote: »
    this was lls last album i bought or even listened to entirely. i doubt i spun it more than a couple times. ? was highly disappointing.

    ll is top 15 all time.

    Actually he had an album called 10 that was decent. It had Luv U Better, Paradise feat Amerie and All I Have feat J. Lo.
    Eh 10 wasn't much of anything outside of the singles you just named. You could tell LL was tryna find his sound. From Puff, to Neptunes, to Timbo. ? just stopped being authentic.
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  • dalyricalbandit
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    i think i havent gave this a listen since 97 when my older heads played it
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  • 5 Grand
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    At the end of the day, LL's greatest hits album can hang with anybody else's greatest hits album.

    Its just that his prime was 85-95.
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  • Nechesh358
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    edited November 2017
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    5 Grand wrote: »
    Nechesh358 wrote: »
    this was lls last album i bought or even listened to entirely. i doubt i spun it more than a couple times. ? was highly disappointing.

    ll is top 15 all time.

    Actually he had an album called 10 that was decent. It had Luv U Better, Paradise feat Amerie and All I Have feat J. Lo.

    ya i remember 10 dropping. i didnt even give it a listen tho.

    first rap song i ever remember hearing was mama said knock you out. i was only 8 but it blew my mind. i been a hiphop junkie ever since. so ll will always be one of the greats to me regardless of what hes put out in the last 20 years
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  • lion_heart
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    I think I bought the album (I can't even remember). Aside from 4321 it was a forgettable album.
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  • Lab Baby
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    Trash then. Trash now. 4321 is the ? tho.
    Matike85 wrote: »
    x the unknown wrote: »
    never heard the album

    It's worth a listen... this is arguably the last LL Cool J lyrical content album.

    The GOAT album>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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  • Built 4 cuban linx
    Built 4 cuban linx Members Posts: 12,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I liked the DEFintion album but then again I haven't heard it since it came out
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  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    The G.O.A.T album was dope.
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  • achewon87
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    edited November 2017
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    4321 only thing worth listening too on this joint...

    One of his lesser albums. I eventually traded this for Ma$e's Harlem World...
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  • 313 wayz
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    edited November 2017
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    should have had the Trackmasters producing most of the album like they did with "Mr Smith".......Puff and the Hitmen production was consistent with the "Shiny Suit" era
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