Messageboard From January 2001 Discussing The Death Of Escobar Album

5 Grand
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Here's the link to the message board

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.music.hip-hop/9vcdABPxNFk


Here's some more info if you don't understand what they're talking about.

The Death of Escobar (abbreviated as D.O.E.) is a 2001 unreleased concept album by New York-based rapper Nas. The title is a reference to Nas's alternative persona of Nas Escobar, which was seen as a much more mainstream appealing alter ego by fans.

For over a decade, much information about the album was unknown. Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well, which meant that there was planned distribution for the album. Nonetheless, for years, the album was debated by hip hop heads for years, whether it was the working title for Nas's eventual December 2001 release Stillmatic, a cancelled concept album, or was a fan-made fake.

In 2014, The Lost Tapes Blog, run by claaa7, revealed that in fact, the album was real, and was intended to be the first part of the Stillmatic album, but was cancelled before it was released, and instead re-released, and re-titled, as The Lost Tapes in 2002.



01. "My Way" [? . by Alchemist]
02. "You Don't Know Me (Hardest Thing 2 Do)" [? . by Poke & Tone]
03. "Your Mouth Got You In It" [? . by Dame Grease]
04. "Rise & Fall" [? . by Poke & Tone]
05. "U Gotta Love It" [? . by L.E.S.]
06. "Make It Last Forever" [? . by L.E.S.]
07. "Worst Enemy is Me" [? . by Infinite Arkatechtz]
08. "The Foulness (Interlude)" [? . by Poke & Tone]
09. "Sinful Living (Street Dreams Remix)" (Ft. R. Kelly) [? . by Poke & Tone]
10. "Never Gonna Give It Up" (Ft. Product G&B) [? . by Al West]
11. "Tales From Da Hood" [? . by Curt Gowdy]
12. "? By Myself" [? . by Poke & Tone + Al West]
13. "Hard 2 Tell - Remix" [? . by Large Professor]
14. "Projects 2 Hot" (Ft. 50 Cent & Nature) [? . by CHOP DIESEL]
15. "Poppa Was A Playa" [? . by Deric Angelettie & Kanye West]
16. "Seeds Of Heaven" [? . by Infintie Arkatechtz]

Notes:

Tracks 1, 5, 6, 7, 12, 13, and 15 would appear on The Lost Tapes, albeit a few with altered names, and 7 & 13 being only available in Japan and other markets.

This was 50 Cent's intended debut on a major album; the song "Projects Too Hot" would appear on his 2002 solo Guess Who's Back.

"Poppa Was a Playa" was one of Kanye West's first major productions.

http://lostmediawiki.com/Nas_-_The_Death_of_Escobar_(found_rap_album;_2001)
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  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well"

    anyone got these pics?
  • Busta Carmichael
    Busta Carmichael Members, Moderators Posts: 13,161 Regulator
    Found a thread also the week ether was released.

    The reaction was "meh"
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you read the comments they don't seem to be saying that Nas fell off.

  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    "Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well"

    anyone got these pics?

    I got you rozay

    big.jpg
    tn_400__cover.jpg
  • THE_R_
    THE_R_ Members Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TALES FROM DA HOOD WAS MY ? ...
    LAST OF THE CLUE TAPE ERA...
  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sion wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    "Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well"

    anyone got these pics?

    I got you rozay

    big.jpg
    tn_400__cover.jpg

    This isn't real

    in general? or just the images i posted?

    i wouldn't be surprised if you said either. it's a little too convenient that "some" of the tracks from this supposed album appeared on lost tapes under "different titles"
  • BedStuy
    BedStuy Members Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • illedout
    illedout Members Posts: 8,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    https://youtu.be/SHKlKDP75UI

    “Death Anniversary“
    This was my ? !!

    What if I told you that AZ didn't exist
    And I put him there, played it like a ventriloquist
    Cause ? spit fake ? and y'all respect it
    I spit that real ? and y'all won't buy the record
    What if me and the rapper ? was really cool
    And we used that whole thing as a media tool
    Would you say I was a sucka or say I was savvy
    If I told you ? 's that me and K wasn't married?
    What if Jungle wrote my ? and I'm really illiterate
    And the whole Nas catalog was just an experiment
    What if I really died when Ill Will got shot
    This is Will rhyming right now while Nas is chilling with 'Pac
    What If I did all the advertisements thrown my way
    And I've ? every chick that would throw me some play
    I'd have to load another AK cause ? be jealous
    Cause we real like them Brazil favelas..


    Verse 2

    Scream at the ? "breathe don't breathe your last breath"
    But you know a ? dead when he ? on himself
    Blatter giving up on 'em, face start to puff on 'em
    Bloating up, ? cold as ? , trying hold on 'em
    Loosen up the nine out of his fingers
    Angels coming only he can hear the psalms that they're singing
    And it hurts me, the planets cursed, B
    This your ? first year anniversary
    This how it goes down in every ghetto
    So it's quite natural for rappers to settle
    And make pop music, nursery hooks
    Cause back then we thought the only thing that worked was the jooks
    They're tryna ? a game that done pimped them first
    I'm pimping the industry so they acknowledge our worth
    The next anniversary we all unite
    Let's all get together or we're loosing the fight


    ~Nas~
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sion wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    "Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well"

    anyone got these pics?

    I got you rozay

    big.jpg
    tn_400__cover.jpg

    This isn't real

    I remember on July 4, 1999 I was on Martha's Vineyard (a small island off the coast of Massachusetts) with my friends from high school. One of my homies had a mixtape of all unreleased Nas songs. I can't say for sure that it was the Death Of Escobar album, but there were mix tapes in that era of unreleased Nas songs.
  • Broddie
    Broddie Members Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is false. A lot of those tracks were from the I Am...The Autobiography leaked album from the late 90s.
  • Broddie
    Broddie Members Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Sion wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    "Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well"

    anyone got these pics?

    I got you rozay

    big.jpg
    tn_400__cover.jpg

    This isn't real

    I remember on July 4, 1999 I was on Martha's Vineyard (a small island off the coast of Massachusetts) with my friends from high school. One of my homies had a mixtape of all unreleased Nas songs. I can't say for sure that it was the Death Of Escobar album, but there were mix tapes in that era of unreleased Nas songs.

    Those songs were from the scrapped double album follow up to It Was Written.
  • Broddie
    Broddie Members Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    Sion wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    DarthRozay wrote: »
    "Pictures of the purported album had surfaced through the internet for a decade and had a barcode provided as well"

    anyone got these pics?

    I got you rozay

    big.jpg
    tn_400__cover.jpg

    This isn't real

    in general? or just the images i posted?

    i wouldn't be surprised if you said either. it's a little too convenient that "some" of the tracks from this supposed album appeared on lost tapes under "different titles"

    Those promo images are from the Nastradamus liner notes.
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    illedout wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/SHKlKDP75UI

    “Death Anniversary“
    This was my ? !!

    What if I told you that AZ didn't exist
    And I put him there, played it like a ventriloquist
    Cause ? spit fake ? and y'all respect it
    I spit that real ? and y'all won't buy the record
    What if me and the rapper ? was really cool
    And we used that whole thing as a media tool
    Would you say I was a sucka or say I was savvy
    If I told you ? 's that me and K wasn't married?
    What if Jungle wrote my ? and I'm really illiterate
    And the whole Nas catalog was just an experiment
    What if I really died when Ill Will got shot
    This is Will rhyming right now while Nas is chilling with 'Pac
    What If I did all the advertisements thrown my way
    And I've ? every chick that would throw me some play
    I'd have to load another AK cause ? be jealous
    Cause we real like them Brazil favelas..


    Verse 2

    Scream at the ? "breathe don't breathe your last breath"
    But you know a ? dead when he ? on himself
    Blatter giving up on 'em, face start to puff on 'em
    Bloating up, ? cold as ? , trying hold on 'em
    Loosen up the nine out of his fingers
    Angels coming only he can hear the psalms that they're singing
    And it hurts me, the planets cursed, B
    This your ? first year anniversary
    This how it goes down in every ghetto
    So it's quite natural for rappers to settle
    And make pop music, nursery hooks
    Cause back then we thought the only thing that worked was the jooks
    They're tryna ? a game that done pimped them first
    I'm pimping the industry so they acknowledge our worth
    The next anniversary we all unite
    Let's all get together or we're loosing the fight


    ~Nas~

    I think this dropped in 04
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IqST4DERXoo

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lD5ZvW9OFvo

    It’s not “you don’t know me (hardest thing to do)”, those are two different tracks, hardest thing to do was scrapped from the I am album and you don’t know me came later I’m pretty sure that’s Kelis on the hook
  • themadlionsfan
    themadlionsfan Members Posts: 9,133 ✭✭✭✭✭
    THE_R_ wrote: »
    TALES FROM DA HOOD WAS MY ? ...
    LAST OF THE CLUE TAPE ERA...

    Love that damn track
  • genocidecutter
    genocidecutter Members Posts: 17,825 ✭✭✭✭✭
    THE_R_ wrote: »
    TALES FROM DA HOOD WAS MY ? ...
    LAST OF THE CLUE TAPE ERA...

    Love that damn track

    This poster gives psychobutcher rim jobs.
  • DarthRozay
    DarthRozay Members Posts: 20,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    THE_R_ wrote: »
    TALES FROM DA HOOD WAS MY ? ...
    LAST OF THE CLUE TAPE ERA...

    Love that damn track

    This poster gives psychobutcher rim jobs.

    isn't psychobutcher your alias?
  • a.mann
    a.mann Members Posts: 19,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J-Love blessed the streets with majority of these tracks eons ago


  • CashmoneyDux
    CashmoneyDux Members Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lmao how ironic given posters were saying he should have killed the Escobar persona
  • wolfman91
    wolfman91 Members Posts: 111 ✭✭
    Does anyone know the unreleased Nas, AZ, and Nature song produced by dr Dre. Has starts his verse like
    "The last days revaluation bibles last page""
    I had it in my unreleased Nas. And I can't find it on YouTube
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wolfman91 wrote: »
    Does anyone know the unreleased Nas, AZ, and Nature song produced by dr Dre. Has starts his verse like
    "The last days revaluation bibles last page""
    I had it in my unreleased Nas. And I can't find it on YouTube

    Yea it’s called time
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone on that message board said Nas had a song with Madonna I don’t remember that one
  • wolfman91
    wolfman91 Members Posts: 111 ✭✭
    edited December 2017
    No it's upbeat and has samples of rappers like Mobb deep in the hook
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wolfman91 wrote: »
    No it's upbeat and has samples of rappers like Mobb deep in the hook

    Samples of mobb deep? You sure it was a Dre beat?
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back in like 05 06 on the old ic there was a thread dedicated to all unreleased Nas tracks, features, freestyles, remixes back when rapidshare was around, classic thread