Why do so many of the new NY rappers have the Jadakiss and Fab disease?

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usmarin3
usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 2010 in The Reason
You know, punchlines but just can't put together songs, they are so damn interchangeable and one dimensional . There is nothing compelling about none of these cats either, they don't have a unique story, according to everyone of these mfs, they are slanging rocks on the block. There aint enough cokeheads in the U.S. for all this coke talk. Why does it seem like every NY is i'm from the block ? , are mfs experiences that limited?
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  • rip.dilla
    rip.dilla Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Why does it seem like every NY is i'm from the block ? , are mfs experiences that limited?

    Is Jigg included too?...
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  • hrap-120
    hrap-120 Members Posts: 9,449 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Thats a disease that happens when you spend more hours in a cipher than in the damn studio w/ some headphones on writing to the beat.

    These cats on the stoop writing lyrics in the Blackberry high off Kush and pissy from Crown Royal.
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  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    Is Jigg included too?...


    Yes and no with the coke content, his approach was different (more interpersonal). Alot of these rappers have seem to been tryna duplicate Only Built for Cuban Links formula and use the Big L/Jada punchline style. ? aint even prevalent like that anymore, mfs acting like they still live i the 80s.
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  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Alot of these mfs need to leave their hoods or read about the world, their experiences are short as hell. We even have established rappers on the same dumb ? , aint Fab like 6 albums deep and Jada 3 solo album deep, why are they still on that coke ? . These mfs have travelled the world 10 times over, and none of their experiences are reflected in their music.
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  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    genstasia wrote: »
    Jay-Z is 40 years old and has travelled the world and he still talks about coke... Dont point fingers when Jay-Z does the same ? and he has more money and probably more airmiles then Jada and Fab combined...

    There is a difference between glorifying it like you still live that life, and referencing back what you use to do or contrasting the rap game with the drug game. How many of these ? you really believe is pushing or have ever pushed ki's in their lives.
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  • Brian B.
    Brian B. Members Posts: 6,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    You know, punchlines but just can't put together songs, they are so damn interchangeable and one dimensional . There is nothing compelling about none of these cats either, they don't have a unique story, according to everyone of these mfs, they are slanging rocks on the block. There aint enough cokeheads in the U.S. for all this coke talk. Why does it seem like every NY is i'm from the block ? , are mfs experiences that limited?



    you'd be surprised
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  • a_list
    a_list Members Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    how can you just say ny rappers yo look around son ? is talking bout coke everywhere....when you fail to recognize the real there really is no need to talk about this ?
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  • CTYO
    CTYO Members Posts: 407
    edited August 2010
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    yeah I feel you on this one.
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  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    If the coke game is so damn profitable then why are ? even rapping then because ? knows only a handful of ? are making bread in rap now. The coke game must not be as profitable as these mfs are portraying it.
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  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    edited August 2010
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    I just think beyond Fab, Jada, Banks, Budden etc, that whole punchline gimmick became stale, if they knew how to balance out the punchlines with good song writing then it wouldn't be so bad.
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  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Are we ever gonna get some NY mcs who come of left field and not talk about cliche ? . I would love to hear some music when they lines doesn't consist of ''IM ON THE BLOCK LIKE", "IM IN THE HOOD LIKE", ''I GOT GUNZ LIKE", "I PUSH MORE POWDER THAN",etc. SMH these Jae Millz, Murdah Mook,etc type mcs, everything is "like".
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  • NAWLEDGE_REIGNS
    NAWLEDGE_REIGNS Members Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    jamacia wrote: »
    I just think beyond Fab, Jada, Banks, Budden etc, that whole punchline gimmick became stale, if they knew how to balance out the punchlines with good song writing then it wouldn't be so bad.

    If You Ask Me None These Dudes Know How To Make An Album...Kiss And Budden Included
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  • 5th Letter
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    edited August 2010
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    Padded Room was dope as hell. Banks first album was solid, Jada and Fab rely on formula's too much.
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  • NAWLEDGE_REIGNS
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    edited August 2010
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    jamacia wrote: »
    Padded Room was dope as hell. Banks first album was solid, Jada and Fab rely on formula's too much.

    Kiss The Game Goodbye>>>Padded Room AND The Hunger For Men ..But That Aint Sayin Much
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  • Mdizzle9000
    Mdizzle9000 Members, Writer Posts: 8,319 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    fabs last album was great, and alot of these southern dudes (luda,wayne) abuse punchlines as well
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  • 5th Letter
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    edited August 2010
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    mdizzle9000 wrote: »
    fabs last album was great, and alot of these southern dudes (luda,wayne) abuse punchlines as well

    Yeah I agree and both are worse at it than your average NY rapper like Murda Mook.
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  • hrap-120
    hrap-120 Members Posts: 9,449 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    NAWLEDGE_REIGNS wrote: »
    Kiss The Game Goodbye>>>Padded Room AND The Hunger For Men ..But That Aint Sayin Much

    No ? ...what the ? is "The Hunger for Men"?!??!?!?!?

    ? sound like ? -porn.
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  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    sboogie wrote: »
    Yea these ? only got punchlines and no depth. ? they "limited" experiences.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-cpL--0AQA



    LOL at you finding the rare tracks when they actually rap about something halfway decent, even on thy Why track the ? is talking about cars on a serious track. ? are limited as ? , those punchline rappers write around their punchlines, they stay tryna force one liners. That's why their bars are so disjointed and predictable.
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  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2010
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    Oh we cant forget about Papass aka Papoose, the king of the forced punchline raps.
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  • Mvpbrodie93
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    edited August 2010
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Oh we cant forget about Papass aka Papoose, the king of the forced punchline raps.

    Lol. Memeber when ? thought papoose was gonna blow up in 06 after touch it remix? Rofl

    big L wannabe
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  • 5th Letter
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    NAWLEDGE_REIGNS wrote: »
    Kiss The Game Goodbye>>>Padded Room AND The Hunger For Men ..But That Aint Sayin Much

    I cant co sign this Hunger For More was better than Kiss The Game Goodbye and it's better than Padded Room too. But Padded Room had some deep tracks as well as some dope concept songs. Budden is a punchline rapper that def knows how to switch it up and actually make songs.
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  • 5th Letter
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    edited August 2010
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Oh we cant forget about Papass aka Papoose, the king of the forced punchline raps.

    Papoose can make songs as well it's just that his punchlines be wack as hell at times
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntw7snt2LVc
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  • Deckster
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    edited August 2010
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    why doesnt nas bust his guns?
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  • 5th Letter
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    edited August 2010
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    genstasia wrote: »
    This was very original.... I remember this... Pap had CONCEPTS for days... some just weren't executed well..

    Co sign, I thought he had potential too, his buzz was insane, his mistake was not capitalizing on it with an album and to make matters worse he had NO deal when his buzz was strong and he couldn't maintain his buzz.
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  • 5th Letter
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    edited August 2010
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    genstasia wrote: »
    Honestly He should've ditch DJ Kay Slay and he would've been bigger... Kay Slay held him back alot cuz his old grand papa ass was so focused on them Stripper ? and not his artist..... And Pap did have potential only problem with Pap was his delivery... because Wayne has 23856 wack punchlines and like 4 hard ones but his DELIVERY doesnt make ppl point that out...

    His mistake was letting Kay Slay get in his ear and it cost him getting a deal before his buzz was big and he settled for a contract with Jive Records.
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