Finally someone has said it on wax[marriage related]

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  • Conscious212
    Conscious212 Members Posts: 813 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    "To me, marriage is a dead thing. It is an institution, and you cannot live in an institution; only mad people live in institutions. It is a substitute for love. Love is dangerous: to be in love is to be in a storm, constantly. You need courage and you need awareness, and you are to be ready for anything. There is no security in love; love is insecure. Marriage is a security: the registry office, the police, the court are behind it. The state, the society, the religion -- they are all behind it. Marriage is a social phenomenon. Love is individual, personal, intimate.

    Because love is dangerous, insecure.... And nobody knows where love will lead. It is just like a cloud -- moving with no destination. But because love is dangerous and you are so afraid of the future, you would like to have some security.It is a way to avoid difficulties, but whenever you avoid difficulties and challenges you have avoided growth also. Married people never grow. Lovers grow, because they have to meet the challenge every moment -- and with no security. They have to create an inner phenomenon. Love can become marriage, but then it is a totally different kind of marriage: it is not a social formality, it is not an institution, it is not a ? . When love becomes marriage it means two individuals decide to live together -- but in absolute freedom, nonpossessive of each other. Love is nonpossessive; it gives freedom.

    When love grows into marriage, marriage is not an ordinary thing. It is absolutely extraordinary. It has nothing to do with the registry office. You may need the registry office also, the social sanction may be needed, but those are just on the periphery; they are not the central core of it. In the center is the heart, in the center is freedom.

    And sometimes out of marriage also love can grow, but it rarely happens. Out of marriage love rarely happens. At the most, familiarity. At the most, a certain kind of sympathy, not love. Love is passionate; sympathy is dull. Love is alive; sympathy is just so-so, lukewarm."-Osho Rajneesh
  • Fooley
    Fooley Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    stop singing on that old ? that aint been true for the last 60 or so years. what women you know is marrying up? we barely can find our equal much less up. you making up excuses bruh... tell the truth and cut the ?

    chicks is already financially stable what are you talking about. we buying our own houses, cars and stacking paper long before we 30 and y'all duides cant even get your FICO score up .

    cut it out

    There goes that word equal again. Tiger Woods married a ? nanny, why you ? act like it takes away part of your soul to date someone who's making less than you. ? is screaming money hungry ? .

    Just look at the out pour when a successful black men dates out his race. Another black man who makes more than them that they do that they don't have a chance of getting with so they ? and moan. You ? all about money, stop acting like it ain't true.
  • DarcSkies
    DarcSkies Members Posts: 13,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    "To me, marriage is a dead thing. It is an institution, and you cannot live in an institution; only mad people live in institutions. It is a substitute for love. Love is dangerous: to be in love is to be in a storm, constantly. You need courage and you need awareness, and you are to be ready for anything. There is no security in love; love is insecure. Marriage is a security: the registry office, the police, the court are behind it. The state, the society, the religion -- they are all behind it. Marriage is a social phenomenon. Love is individual, personal, intimate.

    Because love is dangerous, insecure.... And nobody knows where love will lead. It is just like a cloud -- moving with no destination. But because love is dangerous and you are so afraid of the future, you would like to have some security.It is a way to avoid difficulties, but whenever you avoid difficulties and challenges you have avoided growth also. Married people never grow. Lovers grow, because they have to meet the challenge every moment -- and with no security. They have to create an inner phenomenon. Love can become marriage, but then it is a totally different kind of marriage: it is not a social formality, it is not an institution, it is not a ? . When love becomes marriage it means two individuals decide to live together -- but in absolute freedom, nonpossessive of each other. Love is nonpossessive; it gives freedom.

    When love grows into marriage, marriage is not an ordinary thing. It is absolutely extraordinary. It has nothing to do with the registry office. You may need the registry office also, the social sanction may be needed, but those are just on the periphery; they are not the central core of it. In the center is the heart, in the center is freedom.

    And sometimes out of marriage also love can grow, but it rarely happens. Out of marriage love rarely happens. At the most, familiarity. At the most, a certain kind of sympathy, not love. Love is passionate; sympathy is dull. Love is alive; sympathy is just so-so, lukewarm."-Osho Rajneesh
    ...................BrUH
  • Fooley
    Fooley Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    aint this whole thread about money? I didnt make it that way... check the ? you said. y'all dudes is by far more money obsessed than women. y'all put your manhood on that ? . when a chick will work with a struggling brother all the time. your insecurities is showing

    This thread is about the pointlessness of marriage. And why wouldn't a man care about something he earned through hard work?
  • Coby Vibes
    Coby Vibes Members Posts: 2,892
    edited September 2010
    Fooley wrote: »
    There goes that word equal again. Tiger Woods married a ? nanny, why you ? act like it takes away part of your soul to date someone who's making less than you. ? is screaming money hungry ? .

    Just look at the out pour when a successful black men dates out his race. Another black man who makes more than them that they do that they don't have a chance of getting with so they ? and moan. You ? all about money, stop acting like it ain't true.

    and why did Tiger pursue a nanny as opposed to someone else. the nanny did not propose to Tiger. he had the power.....stoppit. HE CHOSE HER... not the other way around. y'all men do dumb ? and expect sympathy for your foolishness. then blame ? that is entirely in your control on women. go head with that bitchassess. either learn to make better choices or ? about them. nobody gives a ?
  • Fooley
    Fooley Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    and why did Tiger pursue a nanny as opposed to someone else. the nanny did not propose to Tiger. he had the power.....stoppit. HE CHOSE HER... not the other way around. y'all men do dumb ? and expect sympathy for your foolishness. then blame ? that is entirely in your control on women. go head with that bitchassess. either learn to make better choices or ? about them. nobody gives a ?

    eat ? hoe
  • Coby Vibes
    Coby Vibes Members Posts: 2,892
    edited September 2010
    Fooley wrote: »
    This thread is about the pointlessness of marriage. And why wouldn't a man care about something he earned through hard work?

    and I agreed its pointless and is of no benefit to anyone
  • DarcSkies
    DarcSkies Members Posts: 13,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    and why did Tiger pursue a nanny as opposed to someone else. the nanny did not propose to Tiger. he had the power.....stoppit. HE CHOSE HER... not the other way around. y'all men do dumb ? and expect sympathy for your foolishness. then blame ? that is entirely in your control on women. go head with that bitchassess. either learn to make better choices or ? about them. nobody gives a ?
    He was set up by a friend that Tiger played golf with actually. How a lot of relationships start.

    But I get your point. Carry on.

    ETA:
    YOU DEFIANTLY GIVE A ? ....You have diarrhea of the feelings right now and have left a ? trial in about 3 threads. But its funny though you actually keeping up wit this ? . Please continue.
  • Coby Vibes
    Coby Vibes Members Posts: 2,892
    edited September 2010
    Fooley wrote: »
    eat ? hoe

    wow. you sure are an angry one. dont be mad.. you'll be alright
  • Conscious212
    Conscious212 Members Posts: 813 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Darxwell wrote: »
    ...................BrUH

    Osho is the truth, heres more

    "Marriage exists as an institution of exploitation, it is not togetherness. That is why no happiness comes out of it as a flowering. It cannot. Out of the roots of exploitation how can ecstasy be born?It is very simple to understand. Marriage is the ugliest institution invented by man. It is not natural; it has been invented so that you can monopolize a woman. You have been treating women as if they were a piece of land, or some currency notes. You have reduced the woman to a thing. Remember that if you reduce any human being to a thing -- unaware, unconscious -- you are also being reduced to the same status; otherwise, you will not be able to communicate. If you can talk with a chair, you must be a chair.

    Marriage is against nature. You can be certain only of this moment that is in your hands. All promises for tomorrow are lies -- and marriage is a promise for your whole life, that you will remain together, that you will love each other, that you will respect each other till your last breath. And these priests, who are the inventors of many ugly things, say to you that marriages are made in heaven. Nothing is made in heaven; there is no heaven. If you listen to nature, your problems, your questions will simply evaporate.

    The problem is: biologically man is attracted to woman, women are attracted to men, but that attraction cannot remain the same forever. You are attracted to something which is a challenge to get. You see a beautiful man, a beautiful woman; you are attracted. Nothing is wrong in it. You feel your heart beating faster. You would like to be with this woman or man, and the attraction is so tremendous that in that moment you think you would like to live with this woman forever.

    Lovers don't deceive each other, they are saying the truth -- but that truth belongs to the moment. When lovers say to each other, "I cannot live without you," it is not that he is deceiving or she is deceiving, they mean it. But they don't know the nature of life. Tomorrow this same woman will not look so beautiful. As days pass, the man and the woman both will feel that they are imprisoned. They have know each other's geography completely. First it was an unknown territory to be discovered, now there is nothing to be discovered.

    And to go on repeating the same words and the same acts looks mechanical, ugly. That's why passion turns into hate. The woman hates you, because you are going to do the same thing again. To prevent you, the moment the husband enters the house she goes to bed, she has a headache. She wants somehow not to get into the same rut. And the man is flirting with his secretary in the office; now she is an unknown territory. To me, it is all nature. What is unnatural is binding people in the name of religion, in the name of ? , for their whole life.

    In a better, more intelligent world, people will love, but will not make any contracts. It is not a business! They will understand each other, and they will understand the changing flux of life. They will be true to each other. The moment the man feels that now his beloved holds no joy for him, he will say that the time has come to part. There is no need for marriage, there is no need for divorce."-osho rajneesh
  • Coby Vibes
    Coby Vibes Members Posts: 2,892
    edited September 2010
    Darxwell wrote: »
    He was set up by a friend that Tiger played golf with actually. How a lot of relationships start.

    But I get your point. Carry on.

    ETA:
    YOU DEFIANTLY GIVE A ? ....You have diarrhea of the feelings right now and have left a ? trial in about 3 threads. But its funny though you actually keeping up wit this ? . Please continue.


    in that case I do give a ? . buit aint nothing worse than a ? ? . but you right Imma let them vent til their periods end
  • Fooley
    Fooley Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    wow. you sure are an angry one. dont be mad.. you'll be alright

    nah you just stupid. I explained the ? earlier. learn to comprehend
  • CBR1000RR
    CBR1000RR Members Posts: 492
    edited September 2010
    i've felt that way, just having gf's and one night stands for the rest of my life.
  • Coby Vibes
    Coby Vibes Members Posts: 2,892
    edited September 2010
    Fooley wrote: »
    nah you just stupid. I explained the ? earlier. learn to comprehend

    yeah aiight. good luck.
  • Fooley
    Fooley Members Posts: 1,467 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    in that case I do give a ? . buit aint nothing worse than a ? ? . but you right Imma let them vent til their periods end

    you taking shots? define ? ? ? Any ? that tell these hoes what they don't want to hear is a ? ? . lmao I'd slap the word "? ? " from out yo vocabulary hoe. FOH
  • D-Marco
    D-Marco Members Posts: 4,308 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Osho is the truth, heres more

    "Marriage exists as an institution of exploitation, it is not togetherness. That is why no happiness comes out of it as a flowering. It cannot. Out of the roots of exploitation how can ecstasy be born?It is very simple to understand. Marriage is the ugliest institution invented by man. It is not natural; it has been invented so that you can monopolize a woman. You have been treating women as if they were a piece of land, or some currency notes. You have reduced the woman to a thing. Remember that if you reduce any human being to a thing -- unaware, unconscious -- you are also being reduced to the same status; otherwise, you will not be able to communicate. If you can talk with a chair, you must be a chair.

    Marriage is against nature. You can be certain only of this moment that is in your hands. All promises for tomorrow are lies -- and marriage is a promise for your whole life, that you will remain together, that you will love each other, that you will respect each other till your last breath. And these priests, who are the inventors of many ugly things, say to you that marriages are made in heaven. Nothing is made in heaven; there is no heaven. If you listen to nature, your problems, your questions will simply evaporate.

    The problem is: biologically man is attracted to woman, women are attracted to men, but that attraction cannot remain the same forever. You are attracted to something which is a challenge to get. You see a beautiful man, a beautiful woman; you are attracted. Nothing is wrong in it. You feel your heart beating faster. You would like to be with this woman or man, and the attraction is so tremendous that in that moment you think you would like to live with this woman forever.

    Lovers don't deceive each other, they are saying the truth -- but that truth belongs to the moment. When lovers say to each other, "I cannot live without you," it is not that he is deceiving or she is deceiving, they mean it. But they don't know the nature of life. Tomorrow this same woman will not look so beautiful. As days pass, the man and the woman both will feel that they are imprisoned. They have know each other's geography completely. First it was an unknown territory to be discovered, now there is nothing to be discovered.

    And to go on repeating the same words and the same acts looks mechanical, ugly. That's why passion turns into hate. The woman hates you, because you are going to do the same thing again. To prevent you, the moment the husband enters the house she goes to bed, she has a headache. She wants somehow not to get into the same rut. And the man is flirting with his secretary in the office; now she is an unknown territory. To me, it is all nature. What is unnatural is binding people in the name of religion, in the name of ? , for their whole life.

    In a better, more intelligent world, people will love, but will not make any contracts. It is not a business! They will understand each other, and they will understand the changing flux of life. They will be true to each other. The moment the man feels that now his beloved holds no joy for him, he will say that the time has come to part. There is no need for marriage, there is no need for divorce."-osho rajneesh


    PROPS....so much truth in this post.
  • Coby Vibes
    Coby Vibes Members Posts: 2,892
    edited September 2010
    Fooley wrote: »
    you taking shots? define ? ? ? Any ? that tell these hoes what they don't want to hear is a ? ? . lmao I'd slap the word "? ? " from out yo vocabulary hoe. FOH

    I dont have to define it. you already did.
  • DarcSkies
    DarcSkies Members Posts: 13,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Fooley wrote: »
    you taking shots? define ? ? ? Any ? that tell these hoes what they don't want to hear is a ? ? . lmao I'd slap the word "? ? " from out yo vocabulary hoe. FOH
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    I dont have to define it. you already did.
    As the unofficial moderator of this I must admit I'm not satisfied with this exchange.

    But lol @ the bolded.
  • Rell Mayne
    Rell Mayne Members Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    "To me, marriage is a dead thing. It is an institution, and you cannot live in an institution; only mad people live in institutions. It is a substitute for love. Love is dangerous: to be in love is to be in a storm, constantly. You need courage and you need awareness, and you are to be ready for anything. There is no security in love; love is insecure. Marriage is a security: the registry office, the police, the court are behind it. The state, the society, the religion -- they are all behind it. Marriage is a social phenomenon. Love is individual, personal, intimate.

    Because love is dangerous, insecure.... And nobody knows where love will lead. It is just like a cloud -- moving with no destination. But because love is dangerous and you are so afraid of the future, you would like to have some security.It is a way to avoid difficulties, but whenever you avoid difficulties and challenges you have avoided growth also. Married people never grow. Lovers grow, because they have to meet the challenge every moment -- and with no security. They have to create an inner phenomenon. Love can become marriage, but then it is a totally different kind of marriage: it is not a social formality, it is not an institution, it is not a ? . When love becomes marriage it means two individuals decide to live together -- but in absolute freedom, nonpossessive of each other. Love is nonpossessive; it gives freedom.

    When love grows into marriage, marriage is not an ordinary thing. It is absolutely extraordinary. It has nothing to do with the registry office. You may need the registry office also, the social sanction may be needed, but those are just on the periphery; they are not the central core of it. In the center is the heart, in the center is freedom.

    And sometimes out of marriage also love can grow, but it rarely happens. Out of marriage love rarely happens. At the most, familiarity. At the most, a certain kind of sympathy, not love. Love is passionate; sympathy is dull. Love is alive; sympathy is just so-so, lukewarm."-Osho Rajneesh

    Real ? Rap
  • willhustle
    willhustle Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 6,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Coby Vibes wrote: »
    in that case I do give a ? . buit aint nothing worse than a ? ? . but you right Imma let them vent til their periods end

    You're hilarious just b/c somebody express an opinion opposite from yours their "? ? " all of sudden interesting....well I'll guess I be a ? ass then for expressing my opinion as I said before marriage does not benefit the man when it all said and done.
  • McGeeAKey
    McGeeAKey Members Posts: 1,928 ✭✭
    edited September 2010
    dude told the truth,it's all about the women during marriage not the mAN
  • lord nemesis
    lord nemesis Members Posts: 11,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    I'm actually pretty ambivalent on marriage itself but one thing I absolutely wont stand for is going into debt to pay for some extravagant-ass wedding. ? be going overboard with that ? . What's wrong with the courthouse?
  • a.mann
    a.mann Members Posts: 19,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2010
    Darxwell wrote: »
    As the unofficial moderator of this I must admit I'm not satisfied with this exchange.

    But lol @ the bolded.



    c/s

    sonebody seems to be becoming unhinged