Blueprint 2 vs Ether
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ok. i dont know how to post videos but Lupe got Nas.
Kanye West is another one of those artist who do that better than Nas.
Lil Wayne and Drake also.
When you are getting a point across it helps to have charisma and swag.
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JokerzWyld wrote: »Nas only losses on the internet.
The funny thing is I never heard this "Nas Lost" ? until i started coming to this site.
None of Jay-Z's disses toward Nas were strong or effective because Jay-Z can't craft decent disses. The second he goes at an Emcee he immediately starts ? on himself. He dissed Nas & Prodigy then he bites/pays homage to them on back to back albums. He talks ? about Nas and how he doesn't give to charities when he says on BP2:
Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
And this is with whom you want to place your faith?
I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?
Ain't I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there's a tragedy, I'm the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don't call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
But later he contradicts himself and says....
Sure, I ponied up a mil' but I didn't give my time
So in reality I didn't give a dime
or a damn, I just put my monies in the hands
of the same people that left my people stranded
Nothin' but a bandit, left my folks abandonned
Damn, money we gave just a band aid
Can't say we better on than we was before
In synopsis, this is my Minority Report
Then the man calls Nas a hypocrite for two contradictory songs on 2 separate albums that came out 3 years apart, yet he contradicted himself twice on the same albums. How you gonna play lover boy on "Sunshine" then player on "Who You Wit" on Vol. 1, then do it again with "Bonnie & Clyde 03" & "? All Night" on BP2?
Jay-z is so lame, and his stans are pathetic to even take such a question seriously. "Ether" was a great diss but it wasn't even necessary because Jay-Z was destroying himself the whole time. I see why he doesn't diss anybody anymore, and i see why he's still fighting "Ether" till this day.
all i have to say is compare the two careers and who honestly has had a better career? -
JokerzWyld wrote: »Nas only losses on the internet.
The funny thing is I never heard this "Nas Lost" ? until i started coming to this site.
None of Jay-Z's disses toward Nas were strong or effective because Jay-Z can't craft decent disses. The second he goes at an Emcee he immediately starts ? on himself. He dissed Nas & Prodigy then he bites/pays homage to them on back to back albums. He talks ? about Nas and how he doesn't give to charities when he says on BP2:
Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
And this is with whom you want to place your faith?
I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?
Ain't I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there's a tragedy, I'm the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don't call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
But later he contradicts himself and says....
Sure, I ponied up a mil' but I didn't give my time
So in reality I didn't give a dime
or a damn, I just put my monies in the hands
of the same people that left my people stranded
Nothin' but a bandit, left my folks abandonned
Damn, money we gave just a band aid
Can't say we better on than we was before
In synopsis, this is my Minority Report
Then the man calls Nas a hypocrite for two contradictory songs on 2 separate albums that came out 3 years apart, yet he contradicted himself twice on the same albums. How you gonna play lover boy on "Sunshine" then player on "Who You Wit" on Vol. 1, then do it again with "Bonnie & Clyde 03" & "? All Night" on BP2?
Jay-z is so lame, and his stans are pathetic to even take such a question seriously. "Ether" was a great diss but it wasn't even necessary because Jay-Z was destroying himself the whole time. I see why he doesn't diss anybody anymore, and i see why he's still fighting "Ether" till this day.
you really think so? all the ? going on in his life/career. he don't care bout that ? . after it, his career continue to go up. you're lame for catching feelings over this ? that happened 10 years ago -
I'll take Nas FTW, Dale!
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NeighberHoodPusher wrote: »you really think so? all the ? going on in his life/career. he don't care bout that ? . after it, his career continue to go up. you're lame for catching feelings over this ? that happened 10 years ago
Who's catching feelings?
So truth = hate now? What kinda math you doing? -
ItzGravitation wrote: »all i have to say is compare the two careers and who honestly has had a better career?
Stop deferring with a ? question. Both rappers are multi-platinum multi-millionaires and even if one wasn't commercially successful it wouldn't matter. Michael Jackson had a better career than James Brown, yet he didn't write half of his music nor produce or compose any of it. Michael Jackson himself said James Brown was the greatest artist and he cried when he met him. Who's the better the artist? -
JokerzWyld wrote: »Who's catching feelings?
So truth = hate now? What kinda math you doing?
you did. you wrote all that ? . i didn't say you was hating but their is no truth in someone's opinion -
JokerzWyld wrote: »Stop deferring with a ? question. Both rappers are multi-platinum multi-millionaires and even if one wasn't commercially successful it wouldn't matter. Michael Jackson had a better career than James Brown, yet he didn't write half of his music nor produce or compose any of it. Michael Jackson himself said James Brown was the greatest artist and he cried when he met him. Who's the better the artist?
and James Brown aint ? with Thriller.
What point are you trying to make?
i suggest you make it clear. -
ItzGravitation wrote: »and James Brown aint ? with Thriller.
What point are you trying to make?
i suggest you make it clear.
Your point is moot, stop trolling.NeighberHoodPusher wrote: »you did. you wrote all that ? . i didn't say you was hating but their is no truth in someone's opinion
First of all this is a hip hop forum where you're supposed to write about subjects. Second, no feelings were caught. I copied and pasted the lyrics. Jay-Z really did Bite those 2 rappers after he dissed them. Jay-Z ACTUALLY did contradict himself before, after, and while he was dissing those 2 rappers. Don't confuse fact with fiction. No good boxer punches himself during a fight, yet that's what Jay did. Jay lost. -
So MJ not better than James Brown?
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Blueprint 2 is a pitiful diss. This one big concession letter w/ Jay Z crying that Nas cheated. Jay barely addresses Nas with the most scathing lines being where Nas is called out for his contradictions. It would've been more hard hitting if Jay Z actually went more in depth of how he saved Nas's career instead he spends time listing off what he did for 9/11 and charity. That was weak and irrelevant. Jay Z is far better than that and he could've actually put that beat to much better use than to diss Nas.
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NeighberHoodPusher wrote: »word? elaboratechoppa_style wrote: »Takeover and BP2 are all truth...Nas was all about taking ? shots at Jay...
So Takeover/Bp2>>>>>Ether
Jay on both was just his false and dumb opinion. Dude said only Illmatic and Stillmatic were good when It Was Written was an undeniable classic, and I Am was a damn near classic, plus nas stayed going plat. Jay was wrong. No truth there.ItzGravitation wrote: »how is ether >>>Jays career when its obvious he worthway more than Nas.
Beyonce>>>Nas
Nas ? Beyonce, and turned her down for a date cause her breath stank. Who really won?ItzGravitation wrote: »VideoPhone and Telephone>>>Rewind.
Renegade>>>>Nas' catalogue.
They're more popular for a reason.
LOL ? just ? yourself, but you said Drake is GOAT so your opinion on anything in life is void. You can say 2 + 2 = 4 and ? gonna start questioning it. Plus a lot of Nas catalogue is more popular than Renegade so even that fails. ? .georgia boi wrote: »Blueprint 2 is a pitiful diss. This one big concession letter w/ Jay Z crying that Nas cheated. Jay barely addresses Nas with the most scathing lines being where Nas is called out for his contradictions. It would've been more hard hitting if Jay Z actually went more in depth of how he saved Nas's career instead he spends time listing off what he did for 9/11 and charity. That was weak and irrelevant. Jay Z is far better than that and he could've actually put that beat to much better use than to diss Nas.
C/S ? sucks. It was worse than (I can't believe I'm gonna say this) SupaUgly.