Just Blaze Speaks on Quincy/Kanye *thinks Quincy spoke in ignorance
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Quincy Jones makes music from nothing
Kanye West build on someone elses template
Quincy Jones is Da Vinci, he creates masterpieces from nothing (Mona Lisa), what Kanye West is, is Duchamp (draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa). You can't compare ? who know how to compose music from nothing to dudes who build on other peoples music. -
Producers like Kanye West will become the standard for the future music industry(take that how you will). Quincy Jones is obsolete. We can discuss his talents based on the live instruments he may know to use, or the fact that he can write music, etc, etc, but his way of working is not cost effective in today's business. If i'm a record executive looking for a hit record for my artist, do i (A) hire Kanye West for $100,000 or (B) hire Quincy Jones and his orchestra for at least triple the price? At the end of the day business men want what's cost-effective for them and one producer and 20 band members isn't cost-effective at all.
No shot against live music but the truth must be told. -
Quincy Jones makes music from nothing
Kanye West build on someone elses template
Quincy Jones is Da Vinci, he creates masterpieces from nothing (Mona Lisa), what Kanye West is, is Duchamp (draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa). You can't compare ? who know how to compose music from nothing to dudes who build on other peoples music.
That's not fair. no one discredits the creator of the florescent light bulb, because Edison already invented the light bulb. The fact that Kanye can build upon something that's already been created is an art in itself. To hear something and re-imagine it. Quincy can't do that. I've heard this ? remix his own ? ...it's wack as ? . so for him to discredit Kanye or for anyone else to do that is ? . That's the equivalent of saying that a pianist who plays by ear and can't read music is less talented than someone that can read music. The person that can read music can't do what the player by ear can. Someone that plays by ear can't do what the reader can. I don't understand why they have to be in competition, and cannot run parallel. -
no, i agree with quincy. kanye is good at what he does, but hes not seeing quincy's shadow.
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Lorenzo de Medici wrote: »That's not fair. no one discredits the creator of the florescent light bulb, because Edison already invented the light bulb. The fact that Kanye can build upon something that's already been created is an art in itself. To hear something and re-imagine it. Quincy can't do that. I've heard this ? remix his own ? ...it's wack as ? . so for him to discredit Kanye or for anyone else to do that is ? . That's the equivalent of saying that a pianist who plays by ear and can't read music is less talented than someone that can read music. The person that can read music can't do what the player by ear can. Someone that plays by ear can't do what the reader can. I don't understand why they have to be in competition, and cannot run parallel.
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I was gonna say something along those lines.... -
Lorenzo de Medici wrote: »That's not fair. no one discredits the creator of the florescent light bulb, because Edison already invented the light bulb. The fact that Kanye can build upon something that's already been created is an art in itself. To hear something and re-imagine it. Quincy can't do that. I've heard this ? remix his own ? ...it's wack as ? . so for him to discredit Kanye or for anyone else to do that is ? . That's the equivalent of saying that a pianist who plays by ear and can't read music is less talented than someone that can read music. The person that can read music can't do what the player by ear can. Someone that plays by ear can't do what the reader can. I don't understand why they have to be in competition, and cannot run parallel.
If Quincy can create masterpieces from nothing, i'm quite ? sure he can learn how to make music with a MPC or whatever equipment Kanye uses. He already has the concept of putting music together, all he would need to know is how to do the technical aspects of the MPC. This is the same man who has created pop, jazz, rock, r and b, blues, etc music from nothing and worked with legendary groups and artist, i'm sure some simple MPC is not gonna stomp him. -
If Quincy can create masterpieces from nothing, i'm quite ? sure he can learn how to make music with a MPC or whatever equipment Kanye uses. He already has the concept of putting music together, all he would need to know is how to do the technical aspects of the MPC. This is the same man who has created pop, jazz, rock, r and b, blues, etc music from nothing and worked with legendary groups and artist, i'm sure some simple MPC is not gonna stomp him.
So because someone's good at basketball they're good at football? I mean, they're both athletes. Is that what you're saying? -
Quincy Jones makes music from nothing
Kanye West build on someone elses template
Quincy Jones is Da Vinci, he creates masterpieces from nothing (Mona Lisa), what Kanye West is, is Duchamp (draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa). You can't compare ? who know how to compose music from nothing to dudes who build on other peoples music.
no samples
i agree with quincy, but this "sample vs from scratch" argument is stupid -
comparing Kanye & Quincy at this stage of Kanye's career simply isn't fair to either of them
Dude, Quincy produced Thriller.
That alone...
c'mon son -
why dont you try makeing a yeezy beat?.......no? well sit yo ass tha ? down....If Quincy can create masterpieces from nothing, i'm quite ? sure he can learn how to make music with a MPC or whatever equipment Kanye uses. He already has the concept of putting music together, all he would need to know is how to do the technical aspects of the MPC. This is the same man who has created pop, jazz, rock, r and b, blues, etc music from nothing and worked with legendary groups and artist, i'm sure some simple MPC is not gonna stomp him. -
kanye west is a streetball legend, quincy jones is a nba hall of famer
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............birdcall89 wrote: »no, i agree with quincy. kanye is good at what he does, but hes not seeing quincy's shadow. -
just blaze shut the ? up. Fairlight>Protools -
lol mannn fuuuuck quincy jones, get off that ? ? ? lol
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Lorenzo de Medici wrote: »So because someone's good at basketball they're good at football? I mean, they're both athletes. Is that what you're saying?
What a ? ass analogy. lol Q understand the concepts of music (strings, drums,etc), i'm pretty sure he gets the concept of making a hiphop beat, if he understands the musicality of rap i'm sure it would be no problem creating it. He has the fundamentals of making music down, lets not act like rap isn't built on other genres (rock, jazz, soul,etc) which Q is experienced in. -
Kanye is good but not that good. Their are not a lot of strong artists out there. Making Kanye look like he is the greatest thing since sliced bread when he isn't. as a Producer he is good but not all time great. He is far from a musical genius but he is good at what he does.
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runningwolf1980 wrote: »[/B] why dont you try makeing a yeezy beat?.......no? well sit yo ass tha ? down....
There are plenty of Kanye West type producers out there (NO ID, Pete Rock, 9th WOnder, Dilla, Hi Tek, MF Doom, Nottz,etc), there isn't another Quincy Jones out there at all. What Kanye does isn't unique to alot of producers in rap, he takes old records and build on that template, which is totally different than what composers do. -
There are plenty of Kanye West type producers out there (NO ID, Pete Rock, 9th WOnder, Dilla, Hi Tek, MF Doom, Nottz,etc), there isn't another Quincy Jones out there at all. What Kanye does isn't unique to alot of producers in rap, he takes old records and build on that template, which is totally different than what composers do.
c'mon son....... -
1 bass guitarist and drummer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kanye's and Just Blaze catalogue.
When you're recording career is only relevant from loops of other songs you copied, artistic L. -
lol at ? acting like yeezy has no skills....
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Kanye is great no doubt. But Quincy Jones , Ray Charles , Maurice White , Stevie Wonder are just on a different level. Basically its like this , all the stuff that a Hip Hop producer can make on a beat machine , All those great Artist I mentioned can play every instrument that Kanye and them dudes produce digitally. Kanye mind artistcally may be on par with the greats but the actual skill its not even close and laughable to compare
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Quincy Jones makes music from nothing
Kanye West build on someone elses template
Quincy Jones is Da Vinci, he creates masterpieces from nothing (Mona Lisa), what Kanye West is, is Duchamp (draw a mustache on the Mona Lisa). You can't compare ? who know how to compose music from nothing to dudes who build on other peoples music.
What you feel about the rumours of Kanye West having Ghost Producers as far as them doing the technical work as far as making the Beat's while Kanye over seas them doing the work and basically just Sampling? -
runningwolf1980 wrote: »lol at ? acting like yeezy has no skills....
WE. As in me or you, all of us. Can do what Kanye does. Acid Pro, Pro Tools, Fruity Loops, Reason.... take your pick and start browsing old school music for that one 5 or 10 second part with no vocals. It might take a day or two with tinkering and instruction manual reading, but you'll have it by the end of the week. Only thing you'll need professional help with is probably the engineering.
The ONLY real deal breaker is in the ear. Not every one has the ear necessary to find that right harmony of sounds that can catch a mass audience. I'll give kanye that, he has the ear to do that some what. But the level of skill required stops while a musicians ends much further down the line. But as I said, a career where you took someone else music and just repeated for 3 minutes pales in comparison, artistically. -
What you feel about the rumours of Kanye West having Ghost Producers as far as them doing the technical work as far as making the Beat's while Kanye over seas them doing the work and basically just Sampling?
Nah I talk to Ye on the regular and I trust that's not the case.
He wouldn't lie to me. -
I always thought of Kanye as over seaing Beat Makers do the work digitally while Kanye tells them what sound he wants and choosing Samples that he wants to use since Kanye Samples so much
I've never seen footage of Kanye actually making a Beat in a Studio using an MPC, Pro Tools, Reason, Midi, Keyboard etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLTPX12LJi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6QsusDS_8A
