Africans beat a Civil Rights leader to death & American Christians are to blame
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things like this are why I don't just "let people believe what they believe and leave them alone"
Uganda is currently undergoing conflict over civil rights: a number of influential Christians in the country, under the influence of American evangelicals like Scott Lively and Rick Warren, have been pushing to have homosexuality condemned and people who love other people of the same sex arrested or executed. It's an ugly place where the dreams of the Christian right are actually being realized, but of course our evangelical leaders are denying their responsibility. Just last night on CNN I caught a bit of a nauseating interview with Joel Osteen, the smirking prosperity gospel pitchman, and he came right out and smilingly declared homosexuality a sin…but his wife just loves Elton John, so it's all OK. Rick Warren is also similarly a moral coward who will happily trigger the landslide, but refuses to involve himself in the consequences.
Our good, kind, sinner-loving, sin-hating Christianist monsters have more blood on their hands now. David Kato, a Ugandan civil rights leader who fought for tolerance for ? , lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people, has been beaten to death. This event followed after many death threats, and after the publication of a hit list in a local magazine.
Couple religious certainty and an atmosphere in which religious leaders are assuring everyone that certain people are less than human, damned, or criminal, and this is what you get: vigilante injustice. And Uganda loses another force for justice and humanity.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/01/a_death_in_uganda.php
Uganda is currently undergoing conflict over civil rights: a number of influential Christians in the country, under the influence of American evangelicals like Scott Lively and Rick Warren, have been pushing to have homosexuality condemned and people who love other people of the same sex arrested or executed. It's an ugly place where the dreams of the Christian right are actually being realized, but of course our evangelical leaders are denying their responsibility. Just last night on CNN I caught a bit of a nauseating interview with Joel Osteen, the smirking prosperity gospel pitchman, and he came right out and smilingly declared homosexuality a sin…but his wife just loves Elton John, so it's all OK. Rick Warren is also similarly a moral coward who will happily trigger the landslide, but refuses to involve himself in the consequences.
But Warren won't go so far as to condemn the legislation itself. A request for a broader reaction to the proposed Ugandan anti-homosexual laws generated this response: "The fundamental dignity of every person, our right to be free, and the freedom to make moral choices are gifts endowed by ? , our creator. However, it is not my personal calling as a pastor in America to comment or interfere in the political process of other nations." On Meet the Press this morning, he reiterated this neutral stance in a different context: "As a pastor, my job is to encourage, to support. I never take sides." Warren did say he believed that abortion was "a holocaust." He knows as well as anyone that in a case of great wrong, taking sides is an important thing to do.
Our good, kind, sinner-loving, sin-hating Christianist monsters have more blood on their hands now. David Kato, a Ugandan civil rights leader who fought for tolerance for ? , lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered people, has been beaten to death. This event followed after many death threats, and after the publication of a hit list in a local magazine.
The fight against the bill has also pushed Ugandan activists to the fore, raising concern for their privacy and safety. These deepened in late 2010 when a local tabloid called Rolling Stone, unconnected to the US magazine, published pictures, names, and residence locations of some members of the LGBT community, along with a headline saying, "Hang Them." Kato's photo appeared on the cover, and inside another photo appeared with his name.
Couple religious certainty and an atmosphere in which religious leaders are assuring everyone that certain people are less than human, damned, or criminal, and this is what you get: vigilante injustice. And Uganda loses another force for justice and humanity.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/01/a_death_in_uganda.php
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Dude supported ? . Who cares.
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Will Munny wrote: »Dude supported ? . Who cares.
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It happens. So what?
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Saddleback pastor Rick Warren has denounced the proposed legislation in Uganda that would execute homosexuals who are infected with ? , a law Warren says "I had nothing to do with, completely oppose and vigorously condemn."
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2009/12/rick_warren_oth.html -
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Ugandan church leaders are calling on California pastor Rick Warren to "biblically issue an apology for having wronged us."
In a recent letter, the group of 20 denominational leaders said the Purpose Driven Life author caused "distress" in their nation after he requested they speak out against the Anti-Homosexuality Bill 2009 currently awaiting approval in the Ugandan Parliament.
"Your letter has caused great distress and the pastors are demanding that you issue a formal apology for insulting the people of Africa by your very inapropriate (sic) bully use of your church and purpose driven pulpits to coerse (sic) us into the 'evil' of ? and Gaymorrah, (sic)" the group of pastors, calling themselves the Uganda National Pastors Task Force Against Homosexuality, said in a letter to Warren.
Read more: http://www.charismamag.com/index.php/news/25760-ugandan-pastors-call-for-apology-from-rick-warren#ixzz1CGzjIAkL -
Matt, Warren refused to take a side until the press called, according to the combined info from our articles.
He was perfectly happy to let the Ugandans slaughter each other in the name of Jesus until it became bad press for him.
edit: also your source is hilariously biased -
This is why other people's personal beliefs are everyone's concern.
David Kato was a hero. -
I thought "LOL" when reading the thread title.
Then I opened the thread and thought it again. -
? forbid anyone blame the person who committed the crime. Has the killer made a claim as to why he killed the man ? [hopefully an uncoerced genuinely his claim]
BTW - "A police spokesman, Vincent Sekatte, said Kato was killed by robbers who have so far killed more than 10 people in that area in the past two months.
He said there was no indication the death was connected to any anti-homosexual sentiment. Kato was hit by a hammer that has been recovered by police, Sekatte said."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110127/ap_on_re_af/af_uganda_? _activist_slain#mwpphu-container -
Come on!!!!
This is taken out of context -
Trying to figure out why my previous post hadn't been approved, I can guess though...
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jefe_asombroso wrote: »Trying to figure out why my previous post hadn't been approved, I can guess though...
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John Prewett wrote: »? forbid anyone blame the person who committed the crime.
kato's name and face were printed on a publicized hit list
and then he got murdered
sure, it was just robbers. the police wouldn't lie.