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Why do republicans say its going to be a government take over of healthcare. When the government already controls healthcare with various tax credits medicare and medicaid. The government spends 175 billion that's only 40 billion less than medicaid. On providing tax write offs for businesses to supply their employees with healthcare. A YEAR. So the true cost of healthcare on the government is somewhere around 809 billion not the 635 billion for medicare, chip, and medicaid, and veterans benefits. With total healthcare expenditures totaling 1.9 billion. About half of that was paid by the federal government through tax credits, medicare, chip, and medicaid and veterans benefits. I mean why have insurance companies. If the republican plan still leaves half.
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Sorry I meant to say republican plan. Increases those tax credits. So the federal government still ends up paying. Just paying even more.
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whereas, as all students of history know, Democrats were righteous defenders of blacks since the beginning of the partyCrownChakra wrote: »Do you know republicans have been ? all over blacks since the beginning of the party?
wait... it seems like this point is completely terrible
this ridiculous post is the strongest argument for blacks to vote Republican in this threadCrownChakra wrote: »How do you explain Republicans using a KNOWN symbol of the church of Satan thats been used for decades, as part of there national mascot? -
whereas, as all students of history know, Democrats were righteous defenders of blacks since the beginning of the party
wait... it seems like this point is completely terrible
this ridiculous post is the strongest argument for blacks to vote Republican in this thread
I.....I ddid't know how to repond to this lol so i figure ill just ask for clarification....was this a joke? -
From what I've read, the parties switched up in 1964 after the civil rights act was signed. All of the racist democrats switched to the republican party and all the republicans turned racist. It really was strange being that he Republicans were the party of Lincoln.
The North was Republican and the South was Democratic. I'm sure there's more to the dynamics of this story. -
how many black republicans do you know?
Lee Atwater is dead so i'm not sure a how his statements are significant in anyway. He's an obvious racist; not all southern republicans are racist.
I have little support for welfare and similar social services.
How do you feel about Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin being the intellectual voices in the Republican Party? Don’t these two women articulate and exude what most Republican voters believe in?
Would you vote for Sarah Palin if she becomes the Republican nominee for President?
I really hope you know what the Southern strategy is LV, and how it was used to divide this country. It was a very destructive political tool. And on your Lee Atwater comment, Patrick J Buchanan worked as a White House communications Director for Ronald Reagan, and he was a Nixon speechwriter/ White House adviser raves about how great the Southern strategy was. He was on Morning Joe a couple years ago talking about how the Southern strategy helped elect the two Republican presidents he worked for. He was also a Presidential candidate in 92,96, and 2000 I believe. A lot of Republican primary voters placed their votes for Mr. Buchanan. We can get a hundred racists Pat Buchanan quotes. Are you going to flippantly dismiss him too?
Last question, why when I watch Republican conventions why do the black people in those crowds look uncomfortable like they could be lynched at any time? -
whereas, as all students of history know, Democrats were righteous defenders of blacks since the beginning of the party
wait... it seems like this point is completely terrible
this ridiculous post is the strongest argument for blacks to vote Republican in this thread
Did I mention Democrat? What the ? are you talking about? Did you actually read my Malcolm X quote?
How is it ridiculous? The stars were right side up and now they are upside down which only has one meaning. No one asked why they changed it that way, so people decided to accept it or have no clue what it means. Can you explain why they would do that, cause I know no one had the ? to ask a question so upfront in the media.
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To be honest about the situation..there are some things about conservatism that are good... (I.E. Small government) but republicans aint even all that conservastive (aka classical liberal)...When will ? wake up n see that both parties have terrible policies n u dnt gotta chose between stalin(democrat) and ? (republican)?
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tell me how serious that stars nonsense was before i answerI.....I ddid't know how to repond to this lol so i figure ill just ask for clarification....was this a joke?
or, quite possibly, white racism did not immediately move to or remain in one partyFuriousOne wrote: »All of the racist democrats switched to the republican party and all the republicans turned racist.
let's be fair: they are not the intellectual voices of the Republicans, and everyone knows this. they are popular figureheads, but that is it.How do you feel about Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin being the intellectual voices in the Republican Party? Don’t these two women articulate and exude what most Republican voters believe in?
i read the part where you used their logo as support for a Satanic conspiracy, and then used that as justification to dismiss anything else you postedCrownChakra wrote: »Did I mention Democrat? What the ? are you talking about? Did you actually read my Malcolm X quote? -
or, quite possibly, white racism did not immediately move to or remain in one partyThe Republican Party was first organized in 1854, growing out of a coalition of anti-slavery Whigs and Free Soil Democrats who mobilized in opposition to Stephen Douglas's January 1854 introduction of the Kansas-Nebraska Act into Congress, a bill which repealed the 1820 Missouri Compromise prohibition on slavery in territory north of ArkansasThey vigorously argued that free-market labor was superior to slavery and the very foundation of civic virtue and true republicanism—this is the "Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men" ideology.During the war, Radical Republicans opposed President Abraham Lincoln's policies in terms of selection of generals and his efforts to bring states back into the Union; Lincoln vetoed the Radical plan in 1864 and was putting his own policies in effect when he was assassinated in 1865.[1] Radicals pushed for the uncompensated abolition of slavery, and after the war supported Civil rights for freedmen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Republican_Party#CreationThe history of the Democratic Party of the United States is an account of the oldest political party in the United States and arguably the oldest democratic party in the world.The party was a spokesman for farmers across the country, urban workers, and new immigrants. It advocated westward expansion, Manifest Destiny, greater equality for white men, and opposition to a national bank.During the Civil War, Northern Democrats divided into two factions, the War Democrats, who supported the military policies of President Lincoln, and the Copperheads, who strongly opposed them. During the Civil WarPartisanship flourished in the North and strengthened the Lincoln Administration as Republicans automatically rallied behind it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Democratic_Party
Yeah they pretty much switched sides entirely in 1964 with the seeds sown during the civil war. The old democrats formed with the new republicans. -
tell me how serious that stars nonsense was before i answer
or, quite possibly, white racism did not immediately move to or remain in one party
let's be fair: they are not the intellectual voices of the Republicans, and everyone knows this. they are popular figureheads, but that is it.
i read the part where you used their logo as support for a Satanic conspiracy, and then used that as justification to dismiss anything else you posted
Janklow you are ruining my fun here. Don't answer for him, I wanted to know his thoughts on the direction his party has taken. I mean I could have easily had said George Will, William Kristol, or Charles Krauthammer but since the tea party has taken over the Republican party these people are seen as elites. They are seen as the people who are way to intelligent, (because they read things called books) brandy sipping elites that have parties at their Georgetown homes.
To be an intellectual in the Republican Party now all you have to do is utter these three phrases. Obama is setting up death camps, Obamacare is going to lead to death panels, and my favorite Obama is socialist Kenyan. Let’s be serious the Tea Party is just pitch folk, torch carrying division of the Republican Party. A lot of people in the heartland see Sarah Palin as William F Buckley and Ronald Regan all rolled into one. There was some hyperbole in my question but I wanted to see how he answered it. -
i read the part where you used their logo as support for a Satanic conspiracy, and then used that as justification to dismiss anything else you posted
Do you know the difference between the Republican mascot and the Democratic? Because obviously you dont so maybe everyone in this thread should dismiss everything you say because you cant tell the difference between a donkey and elephant.
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i'm going to have to note that nothing you posted explains to me why i should think white racism is located solely in one partyFuriousOne wrote: »Yeah they pretty much switched sides entirely in 1964 with the seeds sown during the civil war. The old democrats formed with the new republicans.
well, let's be fair here: they DON'T see Bachmann and Palin as intellectuals, they see intellectualism as a problem and like how Bachmann and Palin are NOT intellectualsTo be an intellectual in the Republican Party now all you have to do is utter these three phrases. Obama is setting up death camps, Obamacare is going to lead to death panels, and my favorite Obama is socialist Kenyan. Let’s be serious the Tea Party is just pitch folk, torch carrying division of the Republican Party. A lot of people in the heartland see Sarah Palin as William F Buckley and Ronald Regan all rolled into one. There was some hyperbole in my question but I wanted to see how he answered it.
i know this is you trying to call me dumb, but i fail to see how it follows that i say "it's completely ? ? to make up some Satanic conspiracy regarding the GOP mascot" and you say "you can't tell the difference between the mascots"CrownChakra wrote: »Do you know the difference between the Republican mascot and the Democratic? Because obviously you dont so maybe everyone in this thread should dismiss everything you say because you cant tell the difference between a donkey and elephant.
i guess i'll spell it out for you: people should support the Republicans as a response to your stupid theory. is that clear now?
considering that i have done nothing mod-related to you, but simply disagreed with your position like any other poster, why exactly are you crying about mods being high and mighty?CrownChakra wrote: »These mods feel high and mighty dont they? -
i'm going to have to note that nothing you posted explains to me why i should think white racism is located solely in one party
well, let's be fair here: they DON'T see Bachmann and Palin as intellectuals, they see intellectualism as a problem and like how Bachmann and Palin are NOT intellectuals
i know this is you trying to call me dumb, but i fail to see how it follows that i say "it's completely ? ? to make up some Satanic conspiracy regarding the GOP mascot" and you say "you can't tell the difference between the mascots"
i guess i'll spell it out for you: people should support the Republicans as a response to your stupid theory. is that clear now?
considering that i have done nothing mod-related to you, but simply disagreed with your position like any other poster, why exactly are you crying about mods being high and mighty?
That was my point, that the party has to been turned over to the nutjobs and airheads. This wasn't a question to you janklow it was to the t/s but you are the mod so continue on. Oh one question janklow, do you think belfort will give silva a fight or will silva destroy him? -
i know this is you trying to call me dumb, but i fail to see how it follows that i say "it's completely ? ? to make up some Satanic conspiracy regarding the GOP mascot" and you say "you can't tell the difference between the mascots"
i guess i'll spell it out for you: people should support the Republicans as a response to your stupid theory. is that clear now?
considering that i have done nothing mod-related to you, but simply disagreed with your position like any other poster, why exactly are you crying about mods being high and mighty?
I didn't make up the conspiracy, its right in front of your eyes. Can you name any other institution other then the church of satan that uses the same symbol? -
well, true or not, i just think it's not so much "these are our intellectuals" as much as "NO TIME FOR BOOK LEARNIN'"That was my point, that the party has to been turned over to the nutjobs and airheads.
sorry, but if it's publicly asked i reserve the right to ramble on and onThis wasn't a question to you janklow it was to the t/s but you are the mod so continue on.
i think Belfort is game to fight and will attempt to fight Silva, but will succumb to his usual act of "being disappointing" and this be defeated by the greatest of all mixed martial artistsOh one question janklow, do you think belfort will give silva a fight or will silva destroy him?
well, you DID make up the conspiracy, because your argument is basically "? DEVIL STARS"CrownChakra wrote: »I didn't make up the conspiracy, its right in front of your eyes. Can you name any other institution other then the church of satan that uses the same symbol?
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well, you DID make up the conspiracy, because your argument is basically "? DEVIL STARS"
also, i am not sure stars are a unique symbol
Answer me this smart ass. Find an institution other then the church of Satan that uses UPSIDE down stars as part of thier symbol or emblem. Upside down stars have always been associated with the church of satan. That is a known fact not a conspiracy. So we have the Church of satan, Rock music (which is openly satanic) and the Republican party. I'm I delusional or am I just asking questions that no one can answer? Star is NOT a unique symbol, but when its flipped upside down it is. When you open your eyes let me know, but atleast you heard the story of the flipped 5 point star and you will never forget when you see it in real life. -
the correct answer is: you're delusional. never mind the fact that the star pointing down is used by other organizations, let's focus on this: your argument for why it's Satanic is "because it's Satanic." i imagine there will be no further support for the theory beyond some ramblings about opening my eyes, which, of course, isn't really support for anything.CrownChakra wrote: »I'm I delusional or am I just asking questions that no one can answer? -
the correct answer is: you're delusional. never mind the fact that the star pointing down is used by other organizations, let's focus on this: your argument for why it's Satanic is "because it's Satanic." i imagine there will be no further support for the theory beyond some ramblings about opening my eyes, which, of course, isn't really support for anything.
WOW. I guess if you have done any research on the Church of Satan or Satanism in general you would know how distinct the flipped star really is. So im going to let you do your own research on Google or wherever you want to so you cant say Im pulling out "? " facts. Just go ahead and type Flipped 5 point Star or Inverted Pentagram and let me know what you find. Now how stupid are you using a Freemason Institution (A secret institution) to try and prove me wrong! The only other Institution you could find was a Masonic one LMAO. Your just burying yourself deeper.
So we have. Church of Satan, Rock Music, Republican Party, Freemasons (thanks for this one Janklow) -
considering the fact that you're now resorting to "do your own research" wherein i am supposed to support your claim... it sounds a lot like the ? "facts" are continuing.CrownChakra wrote: »So im going to let you do your own research on Google or wherever you want to so you cant say Im pulling out "? " facts.
again, here's the deal: your support for the stars being Satanic is the statement that the stars are Satanic. are you going to back that up with anything more than the notion that all the best rock musicians are aligned with Satan?
EDIT: you can also have the Medal of Honor and the LDS as examples of further uses of inverted pentagrams. are these also Satanic?
ADDITIONAL EDIT: so i guess you deleted your poorly-phrased "Are you that lazy to do a google search?" post for some reason, but again, here's the deal: if you're making a claim (the use is SATANIC), then you're supposed to be willing to support it. if you tell me it's Satanic and i ask what that's based on and you tell ME to research it ... that's either lazy or lame. you tell me. -
considering the fact that you're now resorting to "do your own research" wherein i am supposed to support your claim... it sounds a lot like the ? "facts" are continuing.
again, here's the deal: your support for the stars being Satanic is the statement that the stars are Satanic. are you going to back that up with anything more than the notion that all the best rock musicians are aligned with Satan?
EDIT: you can also have the Medal of Honor and the LDS as examples of further uses of inverted pentagrams. are these also Satanic?
ADDITIONAL EDIT: so i guess you deleted your poorly-phrased "Are you that lazy to do a google search?" post for some reason, but again, here's the deal: if you're making a claim (the use is SATANIC), then you're supposed to be willing to support it. if you tell me it's Satanic and i ask what that's based on and you tell ME to research it ... that's either lazy or lame. you tell me.
The medal of honor has 13 stars on it. Freemason symbol. WTF is LDS?
Your just finding more ? for me to ? on.
What does it taste like?
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and i imagine this will be yet another unsubstantiated claim that you make that is supposed to mean somethingCrownChakra wrote: »The medal of honor has 13 stars on it. Freemason symbol.
is the guy who demanded i do an internet search to support his argument telling me he's too lazy to do an internet searcgh? the answer is "Mormons"CrownChakra wrote: »WTF is LDS?
this is the part of the debate where, since you cannot support your claims of Satanism, you decide to talk ? instead of, you know, demonstrating how any of the SATANIC things you mention are actually SatanicCrownChakra wrote: »Your just finding more ? for me to ? on.
What does it taste like?
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and i imagine this will be yet another unsubstantiated claim that you make that is supposed to mean something
is the guy who demanded i do an internet search to support his argument telling me he's too lazy to do an internet searcgh? the answer is "Mormons"
this is the part of the debate where, since you cannot support your claims of Satanism, you decide to talk ? instead of, you know, demonstrating how any of the SATANIC things you mention are actually Satanic
If you knew anythnig about the Illuminati, whether you believe it or not, you would know that 13 is one of their favorite numbers symbolically.
LDS produced many different results
If you research inverted pentagram already it would be obvious. I dont have to prove nothing because proving inverted pentagrams is satanic is like proving the sky is blue. -
Well since you're a Republican doesn't that make you like automatically ? ?
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what i know about the Illuminati is that it's an unsubstantiated bunch of nonsense, so the number doesn't mean anything. but hey, i'll wait right here while you demonstrate how THEY'RE SatanicCrownChakra wrote: »If you knew anythnig about the Illuminati, whether you believe it or not, you would know that 13 is one of their favorite numbers symbolically.
except for the part where you can't actually demonstrate how any of the examples you're talking about speak to actual Satanic practices. as always, your argument is "it's Satanic because it's Satanic." what is required is proof of the supposed SatanismCrownChakra wrote: »If you research inverted pentagram already it would be obvious. I dont have to prove nothing because proving inverted pentagrams is satanic is like proving the sky is blue.
