scottie pippen must feel slighted by mj for some reason

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  • bigrizz
    bigrizz Members Posts: 4,369 ✭✭✭
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    Dont mind dude, he only puts his cape on when his team is winning.....
  • Coo Coo Cal's Beanie
    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie Members Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭
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    lets pour out some liquor for the ? ass celtics
  • one_manshow
    one_manshow Members Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭✭
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    wade > dumars.

    FOH ? . Dumars' team around him was great defensively. Dont try to act like he's just amazingly dominant defensively by himself

    Wade overall is a better offensive player due to athleticism and speed. Overall IQ and shooter goes to Dumars.

    Dumars defensively>>>>>>>Wade defensively
  • Coo Coo Cal's Beanie
    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie Members Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭
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    Wade overall is a better offensive player due to athleticism and speed. Overall IQ and shooter goes to Dumars.

    Dumars defensively>>>>>>>Wade defensively
    no, he's not. When your team is great defensively it will look like you're a shutdown defender. Besides Jordan, who did Dumars have to guard? The 80's and 90's had wackass players ?
  • one_manshow
    one_manshow Members Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭✭
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    no, he's not. When your team is great defensively it will look like you're a shutdown defender. Besides Jordan, who did Dumars have to guard? The 80's and 90's had wackass players ?

    Let me break this down for you once and only young buck.

    Dumars averaged at least 20 ppg over four straight seasons and nearly 5 apg for his career despite playing with one of the greatest point guards of his era. He retired in ’99, still a starter for the Pistons, with career averages of 16.1 ppg and 4.5 apg, numbers that could have been far greater in a different setting. Without Dumars the Pistons wouldn't have won titles.Matter off act many legends today say that without Dumars the Pistons would be a whole another team.

    Joe D could do it all—drive, shoot, distribute and defend. Too quick for strong guys and too strong for quick guys, he could control a game from either end of the court.

    Jerry West watched the performance and remarked privately that most people considered Isiah Thomas the Pistons’ superstar, but West pointed out that it was Dumars who was the supreme talent.

    Why?

    Well, West said, both Thomas and Dumars could push the envelope offensively, “but Joe’s defense sets him apart.”

    Another quote

    It left a supremely disappointed Jordan sobbing at the back of the team bus when the series was over (it’s also probably the only NBA defense ever to spawn a best-selling book: Sam Smith’s ‘The Jordan Rules’).

    So an undersized 6"3 guard who shut down the GOAT all time is not a better defender than Wade? FOH kid pay homage to the vets before you make shock statements disrespecting legends. Go watch some youtube clips and come with some better rebuttals. ? had audacity to say Wade ROFL
  • Coo Coo Cal's Beanie
    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie Members Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭
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    Let me break this down for you once and only young buck.

    Dumars averaged at least 20 ppg over four straight seasons and nearly 5 apg for his career despite playing with one of the greatest point guards of his era. He retired in ’99, still a starter for the Pistons, with career averages of 16.1 ppg and 4.5 apg, numbers that could have been far greater in a different setting. Without Dumars the Pistons wouldn't have won titles.Matter off act many legends today say that without Dumars the Pistons would be a whole another team.

    Joe D could do it all—drive, shoot, distribute and defend. Too quick for strong guys and too strong for quick guys, he could control a game from either end of the court.

    Jerry West watched the performance and remarked privately that most people considered Isiah Thomas the Pistons’ superstar, but West pointed out that it was Dumars who was the supreme talent.

    Why?

    Well, West said, both Thomas and Dumars could push the envelope offensively, “but Joe’s defense sets him apart.”

    Another quote

    It left a supremely disappointed Jordan sobbing at the back of the team bus when the series was over (it’s also probably the only NBA defense ever to spawn a best-selling book: Sam Smith’s ‘The Jordan Rules’).

    So an undersized 6"3 guard who shut down the GOAT all time is not a better defender than Wade? FOH kid pay homage to the vets before you make shock statements disrespecting legends. Go watch some youtube clips and come with some better rebuttals. ? had audacity to say Wade ROFL
    Dumars never guarded Kobe Bryant
  • yroholla
    yroholla Members Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
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    Dumars never guarded Kobe Bryant

    LMAO...u a funny ? ...u kno u asking for it right
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dumars never guarded Kobe Bryant

    this dude....smh
  • b*braze
    b*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
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    Dumars never guarded Kobe Bryant


    awww ? ...
    *cues up deebo music...*
  • ReppinTime
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    2000 Kobe was just some kid with hype? Lol he was already a top 12-15 player and an all star

    Kobe is a great player, but the finals just aren't his thing, he isn't a legendary performer on the biggest stage.

    I criticize lebron for not performing well in the 07' finals. But that was his first one.

    It is what it is, 7 finals, no legendary performances


    Kobe was an allstar before he was a starter. Why? because of hype. He was still barely getting minutes because the lakers already had veteran allstar guards. Kobe only got minutes when they would play small ball and put him at the SF. 2000 finals was the first year of Kobe becoming one of the top players.

    He was only 21 and you acting like he was a disappointment when at the time he was looked at as a surprise because he was so young and delivering on the biggest stages. He played like a star. I could go through and rip apart your list of "legendary" finals performances and why your comparisons are stupid but its clear theres no point.
  • Focal Point
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    Dumars never guarded Kobe Bryant

    *raises eyebrows*
  • thedesolateone
    thedesolateone Members Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭✭
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    SCOTTIE PIPPEN NEVER WATCHED MICHAEL JORDAN PLAY

    Oh, what discussion a misguided opinion can bring
  • p swayze 166
    p swayze 166 Members Posts: 120
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    c1up wrote: »
    Jordan played up on I. Thomas and G. Payton

    those are point guards...I should rephrase...elite quicker shooting guard....but back to the point to say lebron is a better defender then Kobe...thats just plain talkin out one's ass.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    7 finals no legendary finals series. It is what it is

    ReppinTime wrote: »
    Kobe was an allstar before he was a starter. Why? because of hype. He was still barely getting minutes because the lakers already had veteran allstar guards. Kobe only got minutes when they would play small ball and put him at the SF. 2000 finals was the first year of Kobe becoming one of the top players.

    He was only 21 and you acting like he was a disappointment when at the time he was looked at as a surprise because he was so young and delivering on the biggest stages. He played like a star. I could go through and rip apart your list of "legendary" finals performances and why your comparisons are stupid but its clear theres no point.
  • smittysmith
    smittysmith Members Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Let me break this down for you once and only young buck.

    Dumars averaged at least 20 ppg over four straight seasons and nearly 5 apg for his career despite playing with one of the greatest point guards of his era. He retired in ’99, still a starter for the Pistons, with career averages of 16.1 ppg and 4.5 apg, numbers that could have been far greater in a different setting. Without Dumars the Pistons wouldn't have won titles.Matter off act many legends today say that without Dumars the Pistons would be a whole another team.

    Joe D could do it all—drive, shoot, distribute and defend. Too quick for strong guys and too strong for quick guys, he could control a game from either end of the court.

    Jerry West watched the performance and remarked privately that most people considered Isiah Thomas the Pistons’ superstar, but West pointed out that it was Dumars who was the supreme talent.

    Why?

    Well, West said, both Thomas and Dumars could push the envelope offensively, “but Joe’s defense sets him apart.”

    Another quote

    It left a supremely disappointed Jordan sobbing at the back of the team bus when the series was over (it’s also probably the only NBA defense ever to spawn a best-selling book: Sam Smith’s ‘The Jordan Rules’).

    So an undersized 6"3 guard who shut down the GOAT all time is not a better defender than Wade? FOH kid pay homage to the vets before you make shock statements disrespecting legends. Go watch some youtube clips and come with some better rebuttals. ? had audacity to say Wade ROFL



    1988 Detroit Pistons ranked 2cnd in the NBA in defense
    27.4ppg 8.8reb 4.6ast 50%fg
    (High scoring game: 36pts

    1989 Detroit Pistons ranked 3rd in the NBA in defense
    29.67ppg 5.5reb 6.5ast 48%fg
    (High scoring game: 46pts)

    1990 Detroit Pistons ranked 2cnd in the NBA in defense
    32.14ppg 7.1reb 6.3ast 47%fg
    (High scoring game: 47pts & a 42pt game)

    1991 Detroit Pistons ranked 4th in the NBA in defense
    29.75ppg 5.3reb 7.0ast 54%fg

    Dumars might have slowed him down some but he never "locked him up". Stop it.
  • b*braze
    b*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
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    7 finals no legendary finals series. It is what it is

    this is a silly ass point to argue...

    In 2009, his 32.4 points and 7.4 assists made this the best combination of those categories since Jerry West averaged 37.9 points and 7.4 assists in the 1969 Finals.


    in game 1 he went for 40 8 and 8. But i know ? love to nitpick about 24
  • thedesolateone
    thedesolateone Members Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭✭
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    i started this thread and i am ending it scottie already apologized and retracted his prior statements