If Jay would have died...
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Do you think if Jay-Z would have died after a certain album he'd be more recognized as the GOAT? He said himself he couldn't win when he's fighting ghost so when would have been the best time for Jay to get clapped? I think if he woulda died early 2003 before the Black Album was claimed to be his last he'd be getting named the GOAT more than Pac. Then 3 or 4 years later they release the Black Album and Hov has another classic under his belt after death. dumb thread yes
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Do you think if Jay-Z would have died after a certain album he'd be more recognized as the GOAT? He said himself he couldn't win when he's fighting ghost so when would have been the best time for Jay to get clapped? I think if he woulda died early 2003 before the Black Album was claimed to be his last he'd be getting named the GOAT more than Pac. Then 3 or 4 years later they release the Black Album and Hov has another classic under his belt after death. dumb thread yes
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nah you right tho.... he would been compared to mike jackson by some -
If Jay died before the Black Album but was still able to finish it, I think he would have been considered not only the GOAT but he would have been looked at as Pac level prophetic. Just think of the tone of the album and the fact that it was supposed to be his last, that would have drove people nuts. He could have even got the Biggie style funeral through the streets of Brooklyn, while they were playing "What More Can I Say"
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If Jay died before the Black Album but was still able to finish it, I think he would have been considered not only the GOAT but he would have been looked at as Pac level prophetic. Just think of the tone of the album and the fact that it was supposed to be his last, that would have drove people nuts. He could have even got the Biggie style funeral through the streets of Brooklyn, while they were playing "What More Can I Say"
so basically your saying jay's mistake was that he continued rapping after the black album ? -
If Big would've died shortly before his 2nd album, he would be considered the GOAT
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Alot also depends on how he died. If he had drowned or got hit by a bus,
that doesn't earn you the same points as getting gunned down. -
reverend_al wrote: »Alot also depends on how he died. If he had drowned or got hit by a bus,
that doesn't earn you the same points as getting gunned down.
Smh at myself but i cosign this...smh -
reverend_al wrote: »Alot also depends on how he died. If he had drowned or got hit by a bus,
that doesn't earn you the same points as getting gunned down.
Co-sign only violent deaths count in HipHop....poor Pun should have beefed with the Latin Kings instead of eating barrels of pig-feet. -
eazy died of the monster and don't nobody talk about him
godfather of gangsta rap -
Co-sign only violent deaths count in HipHop....poor Pun should have beefed with the Latin Kings instead of eating barrels of pig-feet.
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depends when he wouldve died, and on which album
if he died after bp, he'd have been labelled overrated
died after rd, he'd be a big pun type legend
died after the black album he'd have been up there close to biggy, not pac, but close
he carried on which i think ? up his legacy in terms of ? labeling him a has been/overrated/same ol same ol...as the saying goes ur only good as ur last album
everything after the black album has been sub par, also with the demise of rocafella it took that hip hop vibe away from jay z, slowly he has become a businessman cooperate jew lover who just happens to rap
biggy went out on a classic
pac went out on a classic run,
jay retired on a good album, not his best, but it was good, and then he cameback and blahhh -
thesynthesis wrote: »depends when he wouldve died, and on which album
if he died after bp, he'd have been labelled overrated
died after rd, he'd be a big pun type legend
died after the black album he'd have been up there close to biggy, not pac, but close
he carried on which i think ? up his legacy in terms of ? labeling him a has been/overrated/same ol same ol...as the saying goes ur only good as ur last album
everything after the black album has been sub par, also with the demise of rocafella it took that hip hop vibe away from jay z, slowly he has become a businessman cooperate jew lover who just happens to rap
biggy went out on a classic
pac went out on a classic run,
jay retired on a good album, not his best, but it was good, and then he cameback and blahhh
American Gangster was a pretty good album -
American Gangster was a pretty good album
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& LMAO at "what would be a good time for Jay to get clapped" -
reverend_al wrote: »Alot also depends on how he died. If he had drowned or got hit by a bus,
that doesn't earn you the same points as getting gunned down.
I gotta wonder if some of you dudes are actually black
SMH@ a sucessful brother "earning points" for being killed by another black man -
American Gangster was a pretty good album
to me it was wack
a big disappointment
many skippable songs
nowhere as good as TBA, his last listenable album
jay shud have called it a day after the black album, everything has been downhill ever since... -
I gotta wonder if some of you dudes are actually black
SMH@ a sucessful brother "earning points" for being killed by another black man
yeah it's foul to think that way but the guys in this thread are being honest about the general perception in regards to rappers deaths....It's a brutal game. -
thesynthesis wrote: »to me it was wack
a big disappointment
many skippable songs
nowhere as good as TBA, his last listenable album
jay shud have called it a day after the black album, everything has been downhill ever since...
what tracks you skipping on AG? -
I think the ? he is doing now will further his claim for goat more than death, he is going into unmarked teritory and setting the trend that all these other ? are following. On the mainstream level he is also certifying his legacy with Grammy's, number 1 albums, headline festivals and all these big ass shows,etc.
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AG was a good album....
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I think the ? he is doing now will further his claim for goat more than death, he is going into unmarked teritory and setting the trend that all these other ? are following. On the mainstream level he is also certifyings legacy with Grammy's, number 1 albums, headline festivals and all these big ass shows,etc.
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Co-sign only violent deaths count in HipHop....poor Pun should have beefed with the Latin Kings instead of eating barrels of pig-feet.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn funniest ? i seen on here in a while -
what tracks you skipping on AG?
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pdiddy and co ruined the production for me -
if he died then, hed be two notches above the sporty thieves rapper that died and a couple below Big L (and i think Big L is weak)
no way the greatest, just good at self-promotion. -
thesynthesis wrote: »success
pray
hello bk
blue magic
party life
? everything minus ignorant ? , say hello and rocboys
pdiddy and co ruined the production for me -
so basically your saying jay's mistake was that he continued rapping after the black album ?
Wouldnt say it was a mistake. I actually liked BP3 and American Gangster. Just felt like a totally different Jay Z though. Its like Jordan with the Wizards, a lot of people forget he had some really good games and he really carried a sub par team to almost making the playoffs. But when you were basically and MVP and Championship factory before that, people will feel it was a failure. He hasnt put out a real classic since coming out of retirement, and he will always be compared to how he was pre retirement.