If you can read this, you should be embarassed you voted for Obama now

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BOSS KTULU
BOSS KTULU Banned Users Posts: 978 ✭✭
edited March 2010 in The Social Lounge
The US government’s policy of leaving the Internet alone is over, according to Obama’s top official at the Department of Commerce.


Instead, an “Internet Policy 3.0” approach will see policy discussions between government agencies, foreign governments, and key Internet constituencies, according to Assistant Secretary Larry Strickling, with those discussions covering issues such as privacy, child protection, cybersecurity, copyright protection, and Internet governance.

The outcomes of such discussions will be “flexible” but may result in recommendations for legislation or regulation, Strickling said in a speech at the Media Institute in Washington this week.

The new approach ( http://www.ntia.doc.gov/presentations/2010/MediaInstitute_02242010.html ) is a far cry from a US government that consciously decided not to intrude into the internet’s functioning and growth and in so doing allowed an academic network to turn into a global communications phenomenon.

Strickling referred to these roots arguing that it was “the right policy for the United States in the early stages of the Internet, and the right message to send to the rest of the world.” But, he continued, “that was then and this is now. As we at NTIA approach a wide range of Internet policy issues, we take the view that we are now in the third generation of Internet policy making.”

Outlining three decades of internet evolution - from transition to commercialization, from the garage to Main Street, and now, starting in 2010, the “Policy 3.0” approach - Strickling argued that with the internet is now a social network as well a business network. “We must take rules more seriously.”

He cited a number of examples where this new approach was needed: end users worried about credit card transactions, content providers who want to prevent their copyright, companies concerned about hacking, network neutrality, and foreign governments worried about Internet governance systems.

The decision to effectively end the policy that made the internet what it is today is part of a wider global trend of governments looking to impose rules on use of the network by its citizens.

In the UK, the Digital Economy Bill currently making its way through Parliament has been the subject of significant controversy for advocating strict rules on copyright infringement and threatening to ban people from the internet if they are found to do so. The bill includes a wide variety of other measures, including giving regulator Ofcom a wider remit, forcing ISPs to monitor their customers’ behavior, and allowing the government to take over the dot-uk registry.

In New Zealand, a similar measure to the UK’s cut-off provision has been proposed by revising the Copyright Act to allow a tribunal to fine those found guilty of infringing copyright online as well as suspend their Internet accounts for up to six months. And in Italy this week, three Google executives were sentenced to jail for allowing a video that was subsequently pulled down to be posted onto its YouTube video site.

Internationally, the Internet Governance Forum – set up by under a United Nations banner to deal with global governance issues – is due to end its experimental run this year and become an acknowledged institution. However, there are signs that governments are increasingly dominating the IGF, with civil society and the Internet community sidelined in the decision-making process.

In this broader context, the US government’s newly stated policy is more in line with the traditional laissez-faire internet approach. Internet Policy 3.0 also offers a more global perspective than the isolationist approach taken by the previous Bush administration.

In explicitly stating that foreign governments will be a part of the upcoming discussions, Strickling recognizes the United States’ unique position as the country that gives final approval for changes made to the internet’s “root zone.” Currently the global Internet is dependent on an address book whose contents are changed through a contract that the US government has granted to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Number (ICANN), based in Los Angeles.

ICANN recently adjusted its own agreement with the US government to give it more autonomy and now reports to the global Internet community through a series of reviews. Strickling sits on the panel of one of those reviews.

Overall, this new approach could enable the US government to regain the loss of some of its direct influence through recommendations made in policy reports. But internet old hands will still decry the loss of a policy that made the network what it is today.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/27/internet_3_dot_0_policy/



Is this the change you hoped for?

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  • bornnraisedoffCMR
    bornnraisedoffCMR Members Posts: 1,073 ✭✭
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    It was only a matter of time.
  • DarcSkies777
    DarcSkies777 Members Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭
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    Um, Obama doesnt pass laws KTULU. But he should at least try to stop it or threaten a VETO.

    Im beginning to slowly believe conspiracy theorists because there seems to be higher powers at work with a lot of ? like this. A lot of things you dont think are inevitable prove to be so.
  • BOSS KTULU
    BOSS KTULU Banned Users Posts: 978 ✭✭
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    Um, Obama doesnt pass laws KTULU. But he should at least try to stop it or threaten a VETO.
    Obama’s top official at the Department of Commerce.



    This is Obama's internet policy. This is what he wants done. And since it works out in favor of the ownership class, unlike health care, it will get done.


    Barack Obama: Man of the rich people.
  • DarcSkies777
    DarcSkies777 Members Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭
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    I read that whole article and didnt see that part. SMH

    Yeah..Obama sucks. BUt hey...I'd have voted for Kucinah or however u spell it.
  • BOSS KTULU
    BOSS KTULU Banned Users Posts: 978 ✭✭
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    Kucinich is a good man and a boss ?

    and thats exactly why he wont be let into the halls of power

    his morals are intact and he isnt an impotent old man

    even Obama weak in the sack, look at his ugly wife
  • TX_Made713
    TX_Made713 Members Posts: 3,954 ✭✭
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    lol @ you thinking obama is in control of every single decision he makes...the president is no more than a puppet for the bigger people behind the scenes
  • DarcSkies777
    DarcSkies777 Members Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭
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    BOSS KTULU wrote: »
    Kucinich is a good man and a boss ?

    and thats exactly why he wont be let into the halls of power

    his morals are intact and he isnt an impotent old man

    even Obama weak in the sack, look at his ugly wife
    I think the strings pulled behind the scenes make mice of men.

    I truly believe that all if not most presidents go in with the best intentions and once they look behind the curtain are like, "HOOOOLY ? ..."
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The city needs me. *puts on Captain Save-A-Obama costume & mask*


    Remember when they had a sticky thread at the top of The Reason in 07 warning everyone that the Net was gonna be ruined like Radio if we didn't enforce Net Neutrality?

    Remember all the lefty activists throwing a ? tantrum over Net Neutrality and how big telecomm corps were fighting it?

    Remember how all the right wing idiots weren't sure what to do at first, but decided to oppose Net Neutrality because "it means more government" and "that's what Reagan would do"?


    Who supports Net Neutrality?

    "Vinton Cerf, considered as a "father of the Internet" and co-inventor of the Internet Protocol, Tim Berners-Lee, creator of the web, and many others have spoken out in favor of network neutrality."

    "Many major Internet application companies are advocates of neutrality, including Google, Yahoo!, Vonage, Ebay, Amazon"

    Okay. Who opposes Net Neutrality?

    "Opponents of net neutrality include large hardware companies and members of the cable and telecommunications industries."

    Hmm. Who else?

    "Opposition also comes from think tanks such as the Cato Institute and the Competitive Enterprise Institute. The Goldwater Institute and Americans for Tax Reform have also suggested that this principle may violate the First Amendment."

    Oh, nice. Comcast opposes Net Neutrality too, because it ? up their plans to prevent their broadband customers from using Vonage phone service.

    So what's the problem again?
  • DarcSkies777
    DarcSkies777 Members Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭
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    smh @ Swiff's post. I dont trust none of them ? .

    Somebody do my thinking for me I'm torn between the issues.
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    smh @ Swiff's post. I dont trust none of them ? .

    Somebody do my thinking for me I'm torn between the issues.

    Well Glenn Beck called Net Neutrality a "Marxist plot"....

    http://mediamatters.org/research/200910210026

    That link ethers Beck and explains the whole concept well.

    "The principle of net neutrality is about keeping the hands of several powerful network operators -- AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast -- off the Internet, preventing them from taking steps to change the basic open nature of the Net that has led to its success. Net neutrality keeps the Internet as a free and open marketplace, so that a small number of telephone and cable monopolies can't choke off competition and innovation.

    Net neutrality was a founding principle of the Internet, and was the law of the land until 2005. The courts and the regulators changed the rules in 2005 when they eliminated the nondiscrimination requirements that had applied for decades to phone service and, up to that point, to most residential Internet access. Implementing net neutrality is a return to the basic principles that make the Internet work for consumers and innovators."
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Oh and in its first Net Neutrality ruling, the FCC ruled that Comcast couldn't ? with Bittorrent.

    If you don't know what Bittorrent is, that's your loss. Just know that forcing an ISP to leave Bittorrent alone is a very very very very very very very very very very very good thing for "the people".
  • DarcSkies777
    DarcSkies777 Members Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭
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    Swiffness! wrote: »
    Oh and in its first Net Neutrality ruling, the FCC ruled that Comcast couldn't ? with Bittorrent.

    If you don't know what Bittorrent is, that's your loss. Just know that forcing an ISP to leave Bittorrent alone is a very very very very very very very very very very very good thing for "the people".
    Bittorrent is the only reason i have all but the last season of the West WInG. I'll be getting the last season soon :)
    Implementing net neutrality is a return to the basic principles that make the Internet work for consumers and innovators."
    *is now supporting Swiff's side of the issue.

    *disowns KTULU
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    *is now supporting Swiff's side of the issue.

    *disowns KTULU


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  • BOSS KTULU
    BOSS KTULU Banned Users Posts: 978 ✭✭
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    Any "Net Neutrality" legislation supported by the communications companies is not going to be good for consumers and advocates of easily available public access to the internet. You'd be crazy to think these people will pass up an opportunity to control content, advertise, and screw all of us for as many moneys as they can get out of us, and congress won't do a thing to protect us.

    I like to say moneys.

    I truly believe that all if not most presidents go in with the best intentions and once they look behind the curtain are like, "HOOOOLY ? ..."

    "Well Mr. Obama, this is your new office. Let me be the first to call you Mr. President! Ha Ha! Wonderful. Sit down, let me brief you on a few things. First of all, the aliens want all the uranium isotopes by Februa.... oh, by the way, there are space aliens. So, anyway..."
  • phanatron
    phanatron Members Posts: 121 ✭✭
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    I read this whole thread and I still don't know why I should be embarrassed. Republicans are the biggest opponents of net neutrality. Under Bush, the Justice department, along with the FBI routinely requested internet user data without warrants. Big communication companies are against net neutrality in large part because they don't want their bandwidth being used to watch streaming movies and the like that directly compete with their cable programs (ie, watching Netflix when say Comcast has its own 'on-demand' programs).

    Elections are about choices. It wasn't Barack Obama vs. ? . It was Barack Obama vs. John McCain. Which of the two do you think would promote the most freedom on the internet. That's the question.
  • mancill*chicago
    mancill*chicago Members Posts: 70
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    Its all BS. After I read how the prison system is moving to privatly owned for-profit corperations and being that black and latino's are the majority of the prison population it is just a matter of time before they are forced to produce goods for no pay as part of their "rehabilitation". The health care is being pushed through for a reason people.

    Obama got in because we needed a hero, the "powers that be" wanted Obama to win so we would support him and non blacks that questioned him could be called racist. The TV was taken over, next is the internet. Remember free speech? The good old days. Lol

    M.A.E.
  • BOSS KTULU
    BOSS KTULU Banned Users Posts: 978 ✭✭
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    phanatron wrote: »
    It was Barack Obama vs. John McCain. Which of the two do you think would promote the most freedom on the internet. That's the question.

    Neither of them, apparently.
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BOSS KTULU wrote: »
    Any "Net Neutrality" legislation supported by the communications companies is not going to be good for consumers and advocates of easily available public access to the internet.

    Well then I guess its a good thing no communications companies are supporting any "Net Neutrality" legislation.
  • CTYO
    CTYO Members Posts: 407
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    so the internet policy is the reason we should be ashame.... what the ? is the big deal?
    the united states elected a man that was half kenya ? that's a revolution yall ? here complaining about the internet policy..
  • earth two superman
    earth two superman Members Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    so can i still download cherokee d'ass porn?
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    so can i still download cherokee d'ass porn?

    overrated

    Silvia Loret FTW

    (that's Mexican ? 's daughter for those that don't know....)
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If one breaks copyright infringement laws, than yeah, you might be in trouble in the future. Don't break any copyright laws, and you will be fine. What's the big deal?

    Obama 2012, ? REPUBLICANS