IF WE ALL CAME FROM ADAM and EVE, WHY ARENT WE ALL RELATED?
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Jaded Righteousness wrote: »how recent? And how are they posing as aliens when we haven't had any recent direct alien contact (that the public knows about)?
I've heard the ancients did describe a lot of their gods as sky people coming from the heavens
dont know how recent. i was theorizing off dudes point based on what u also cited (ancient people talking about sky people0 along with various other sources i've distilled and found common threads in.and there has been plenty people who have went public with stories of alien contact and there is of course the multiplicity of the gov't making secret alliances with alien beings who have been described by some authors as multi-dimensional beings. -
Jaded Righteousness wrote: »If the being wasn't a snake, how do you explain the Bible saying that ? punished it by having it slither around on its belly? Did he turn the being into a snake?
i dont think so because later on in the curse you are referring to it/he/her was also told it would eat dust. snakes dont eat dirt. -
Last Of My Kind wrote: »really cause the link aint working for me, somebody up ityea the link isn't working for me neitherAs man has developed technology and science to
redefine much of our life, many Bible stories
seem too childish for the sophisticated and
educated minds of today.
I am a Christian who has experienced a personal
encounter with a loving Creator and a very real
relationship with him. With this wonderful
experience it is very easy, once touched by HIS
love to simply accept many of the Bible Stories
at face value as many Christians do. However
there are some today who have tried to redefine
these stories in disbelief and have even gone so
far as to replace ? with space aliens as our
creator. In light of these challenges to someone
who desires to believe in the Bible, it has become
necessary to re-examine these scriptures in light
of modern technology and the literal languages
used. In doing this, quite a different story yet
consistent to the character and nature of ?
unfolds.
Two naked people- a man and a woman, a tree,
an apple and a snake. Really?
First let's look at the tree. The Hebrew word for
tree used in Gen 2:9 has an emphases on the
product from it's origin to be utilized in the sense
of making firm or fasten, to close or seal. In this
sense the tree is more of a door orgateway. The
word for tree also has much in common with the
Hebrew word for generations. It is how and why
we get the idea of a “family tree.” With a trunk
branches, leaves and fruit, this “tree” could
symbolically be suggesting an opening to another
dimension. With this in mind the two trees of
Genesis, the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil and the tree of life could represent pathways
or dimensional portals whose entrance depends
upon a decision of faith or disobedience in the
form of self-reliance. This idea of dimensions, is
also backed up by the statement Jesus made to
Piliate at his trial as recorded in John 8:23 when
he said he was "not of this world." The Greek
word Kosmos is used for world and means the
entire ordered arrangement of this universe
which equals in a more modern term, Dimension!
(see the tract If ? is a Loving ? then Why?
for more details). The fruit which the Bible never
says is an apple, is the catalyst that transforms
man, time and space into a mortal, linear
existence. This was never the intention of ?
but the result of a wrong decision by man. (See
The power of Blood for more details) Are we to
believe that the initiator was a snake or a
temporarily demonized one? Again, by going
back to the Hebrew word usage, quite a different
picture and claim can be made. Nachash, the
Hebrew word for serpent means snake from its
hiss. Its root word means to enchant or to
prognosticate. The emphasis is on the action of
the snake as being like a snake not necessarily
that it is a snake. Dr. Henery M. Morris states in
his book, The Genesis Record, that some
(scholars) maintain that Nachash originally
meant upright shining creature. This would give
a whole new perspective to the "serpent". He is
said to be more subtle that all the other creatures
created by ? . Subtle means intelligence
applied in a crafty or manipulative manner. This
certainly is not talking about the reptile we know
as a snake. In Gen 3 we get the illustration that
because the serpent deceived Adam and Eve he
would be made to crawl on his belly and eat dust
for the rest of his life. Again by going back to the
original language and redefining these words in
light of 21st century knowledge, the story takes
another very realistic twist. The Hebrew, “al
gachown yalak” for upon the belly and life can
actually mean, “from above a reptile,(as superior)
from the issue of the fetus as being outside the
belly you will continue on in your material life.
Only in modern times could this scripture be
understood for what it might imply. A superior
reptilian form that carries on life outside of
normal reproduction can be by the means of
cloning! A seraphim is an order of angelic being.
In word etymology, in Sanscrit seraph means
reptile. Even Doctors Young and Strong’s in their
Concordance’s of the Bible concur with these
word definitions without drawing these rather
strange conclusions! Dr. Spiros Zodhiates Th.D.
comments in his Hebrew-Greek Bible about the
word “cursed” in Gen3: “This word has been
interpreted as meaning to bind (with a spell) to
hem in with obstacles, to render powerless, to
resist. Thus the first curses in Gen3:14,17, “Thou
art cursed above all cattle, and Cursed is the
ground for thy sake” means, “You are banned
from all the other animals” and Condemned be
the soil [i.e., it’s fertility to men is banned] on
your account. In light of this possible meaning to
the scriptures just who or what is this Nachash?
Is this the image of the
Biblical
Nachash?
The evidence is
uncany! As a
former member of
M.U.F.O.N.
(Mutual UFO
Network a serious
organization
composed of
professionals from
the scientific
community) and a
U.F.O. researcher, the alleged information about
these “Gray’s” line right up with this possible
understanding from the scriptures. It is said: with
an agenda following, that these “Gray’s are of
superior intelligence having two brains. They do
not possess sexual organs and have sensory
organs that are somewhat atrophied. They say
they continue on in life by transferring their
conciseness to a cloned replica of themselves
when damaged. They are reptilian in nature and
have the ability to hypnotize or freeze their
victims. They claim to have created mankind and
are here to bring us up to the next level of our
“evolution”. They are seen in a bright sudden and
startling appearance from the skies. Their bodies
also appear to shine in the dark. They are
proclaiming to man that we are our own ? , that
we must rethink our world-view to survive the
coming catastrophes. They proclaim a
philosophy called Theosophy and claim to be
aliens from Zeta Rectili in Orion’s belt. They are
recorded all throughout history as the “wee
people”, “ fairies” and “goblins” of old. There
are even depicted on pottery and cave drawings.
What really happened in the Garden of Eden can
be explained better in these modern terms. What
is really important is what is still happening with
the Nachash today! They say they are aliens, The
Bible says they are Liars, Deceivers called
Demons!
II Th 2:9 “Even him, whose coming is after
the working of Satan with all power and signs
and lying wonders...” Signs and lying wonders
means in the Greek, that a sudden and startling
sight in the skies bearing an ethical message
contrary to ? is given! We are warned that in
the end times a great deception would come upon
mankind from the skies!. II Th 2:11 “And for this
cause ? shall send them strong delusion, that
they should believe a lie:” Why does this
happen? Because in context here, they reject the
truth. If you will not believe the truth, you will
believe a lie. II Th 2:10 And with all
deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that
perish; because they received not the love of the
truth, that they might be saved... That they all
might be damned who believed not the truth, but
had pleasure in unrighteousness. Unrighteousness
is better rendered as a wrong belief. It is not just
the actions of these people, but what they put
their trust and faith in that caused them to act that
was wrong. “Had pleasure,” means a hopeful
expectation. Who do you believe? What do you
put your trust in? You are no different than Adam
or Eve. There stands before you two choices, two
paths, Two trees. One based on Faith, one on
Self-Reliance. What is the truth? Jesus said, “ I
am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes
to the Father, but by me.” Only Jesus bridged the
gap between these two dimensions by
accomplishing the reverse and opposite of what
happened in the Garden at Calvary! He did it for
you! John 3:16 “For ? so loved the world,
that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believes in him should not perish,
but has everlasting life.” The Nachash were
liars from the beginning and are still lying to
mankind today! They pretend to be “Aliens”
when they are actually the fallen Angels who are
part of an ongoing rebellion against ? . But
what will you believe? What do the “aliens” give
as hope? Their brand of reality? A personal
Loving ? offers a place in his family as one of
his children to be joint heirs with Jesus for
eternity! All you have to do is humble yourself
before this loving ? and receive his free offer
of grace. Jesus stated :Rev 3:20-21Behold, I
stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my
voice, and open the door, I will come in to him,
and will sup with him, and he with me. To him
that overcomes will I grant to sit with me in my
throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down
with my Father in his throne”.
IN prayer ask Jesus into your life and begin to
experience and know for certain the Living truth.
Don't ? about it, that's how it was copied and pasted, I'm not going to put up a more proper structure because I ain't ? ' with that and don't feel like giving it the time. It's pasted for you to read, 5-7 minutes of your time. tl;dr, too bad. -
i dont think so because later on in the curse you are referring to it/he/her was also told it would eat dust. snakes dont eat dirt.
Some people take that metaphorically though as the snake eating dirt meaning that it's on it's stomach therefore face first into the dirt. Sort of like saying someones going to taste the concrete when you simply mean there face will be kicked into the ground.
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so nephilim were basically extraterrestrials that mated with humans, and were considered giants like goliath?
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I don't see how anyone can say that aliens are lying to us when no one has any evidence of what an alien looks like or has ever said to anyone at any time
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the first three words of b'raysheet(genesis). they are b'rayheet. b'raysheet means in 'a" beginning. to translate it as in 'the" beginning is a very elementary synax error as it would read in hebrew b' ha raysheet. ha= then you have in Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Adam was not just one person marked from other humanoids by having the 'breath of life" (neshema) which is the animating principle of man and the consciousness (spec. the ability to make something out of nothing) that seperates the Adamic man from other humanoids and animals. also the words "male and female" in hebrew are zakar and nekevah which do not simplistically translate as gender specification but they are more akin to the concepts of yin and yang.
I might need a hebrew bible or something that gives a real translation then to try to see if it makes any sense to me -
i dont think so because later on in the curse you are referring to it/he/her was also told it would eat dust. Snakes dont eat dirt.
what animal eats dirt?... Techically snakes do eat dirt, unintentionally -
PUPU_IZ_DRO wrote: »what animal eats dirt?... Techically snakes do eat dirt, unintentionally
worms eat dirt and crawl on their bellies. -
the first three words of b'raysheet(genesis). they are b'rayheet. b'raysheet means in 'a" beginning. to translate it as in 'the" beginning is a very elementary synax error as it would read in hebrew b' ha raysheet. ha= then you have in Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Adam was not just one person marked from other humanoids by having the 'breath of life" (neshema) which is the animating principle of man and the consciousness (spec. the ability to make something out of nothing) that seperates the Adamic man from other humanoids and animals. also the words "male and female" in hebrew are zakar and nekevah which do not simplistically translate as gender specification but they are more akin to the concepts of yin and yang.
this definitely puts a different spin on things -
So adam and eve's kids had sex? Disgusting.
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freehuey89 wrote: »a better question is, if they had only 2 sons...wtf had to happen
Eve had sex with both of them. -
lifegoeson7 wrote: »Eve had sex with both of them.
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PUPU_IZ_DRO wrote: »what animal eats dirt?... Techically snakes do eat dirt, unintentionally
idk but i know the dust was said to be composed of is the same hebrew word for dust that the serpent was cursed to eat. afahr means earth but it also means ore which is interesting to me being that human flesh is basically the same as the earth right down to the fact that the same trace minerals which make for optimum crop production are the same ones we require to live. the water ratio is the same to. Adam = Adahm in Hebrew and Adahmah = (planet) earth in Hebrew. Adam is a masculine noun, Adahmah is feminine. Something to think about...
I'm telling you when you got eyes to see that book is deeper than you could possibly imagine. -
more proof other people were already on earth
gen 4:13-16
And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment [is] greater than I can bear.
Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, [that] every one that findeth me shall slay me.
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should ? him.
And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
who are these other people that he was afraid of? and if eden was point zero concretely then how was the a LAND OF NOD? this implies that there were people there and obviously a culture and civilization independent of the parameters of eden. it reads later on that he found a wife there as well which addresses the asinine ? jokes on here -
idk but i know the dust was said to be composed of is the same hebrew word for dust that the serpent was cursed to eat. afahr means earth but it also means ore which is interesting to me being that human flesh is basically the same as the earth right down to the fact that the same trace minerals which make for optimum crop production are the same ones we require to live. the water ratio is the same to. Adam = Adahm in Hebrew and Adahmah = (planet) earth in Hebrew. Adam is a masculine noun, Adahmah is feminine. Something to think about...
I'm telling you when you got eyes to see that book is deeper than you could possibly imagine.
i think the eat dust thing may be people overcomplicating it. does every line need to be literal and meaningful? maybe he meant it like when you tell a ? to "eat ? ". -
i think the eat dust thing may be people overcomplicating it. does every line need to be literal and meaningful? maybe he meant it like when you tell a ? to "eat ? ".
perhaps. there is a lot of slang in the tanach. like for instance somebody tried to get the drop on samson by going to his woman to find out some intel on a riddle he layed on them. basically if they guessed it right he owed them some clothes and sheets- 30 sets. so when they got the answer outta her samson says: If ye had not plowed with my heifer, ye had not found out my riddle.
lol..i allways thought "plowed with my heifer" was some cold ass ? to say. -
interesting stuff in the Nag Hammadi they have "Yaldabaoth" as being father of Cain.
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cain is kahyeen in hebrew which means possession. what precedes a sense of possession? ego. the adahm species was made to be a steward over the physical creation and manager of the spiritual realm. the neshema or the breath of life was the animating force of the adamic species in the image of the YHWH elohim in that it has infinite potential to create. all humanoids on the earth wasnt like that. back kahyeen(cain) and his broher hahvel (abel). hahvel means breath. a sense of possession killed the creative will. b'raysheet is not talking about some the earth is 6000 year old jive, its layers and layers of stuff there.
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If we look at the story of creation in the bible as a factual peice of information then it makes no sense at all and contradicts most of what we know about modern biology but if we look at it as an another religious creation myth then we can non-subjectively analyz ite as a peice of lititure and nothing more....lifegoeson7 wrote: »Eve had sex with both of them.
I find it hard to believe ? would be fine with mass ? well maybe he would I mean Noah had to repopulate the earth as well. The problem is it would be impossible to have such a high amount of diversity and population among a species from only two people. Infant mortality rates, gene contamination and homogeneity as well as a whole lot of other factors would take place -
In reality we are all related (distant) through creation;
When we accept the faith of Christ and are baptized into Him, then we related through the Spirit. -
solid analysis wrote: »In reality we are all related (distant) through creation;
When we accept the faith of Christ and are baptized into Him, then we related through the Spirit.
I accepted no such faith.....and millions of others havent either
