LETTER TO USHER:YOUR CAREER IS IN DANGER
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Usher signed the Bieb man he ll be fine for a while...
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R and B music is dead, why can't you fool see that.
Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Trey Songz don't really sell ?
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell ?
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
Good point
Beyonce- 4---- 1.14 million sold
Melanie Fiona- MF Life---- 54,000 sold
Keyshia Cole- Calling all Hearts---- +/- 500,000 sold
Jazmine Sullivan- Love Me Back---- n/a
Mary J. Blige- My Life II---- 563,200
Alicia Keys- Element of Freedom---- 1.39 million sold
Trey Songz- Passion, Pain & Pleasure---- 823,000 sold
Omarion- Ollusion---- n/a
Sade and Maxwell had big numbers on their comebacks. It's going on four years since the last A. Keys album which will be a big indication of where R&B is headed. -
R and B music is dead, why can't you fool see that.
Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Trey Songz don't really sell ?
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell ?
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
Maxwell moved over 400k first week with his last album. Erykah Badu and Jill Scott both did about 150k... So.....
Maxwell sold that many albums because he has old fans (literally) and the hype of him not making a album in years, same ? for Sade. Still with all that he only went platinum and none of his singles popped off like that to go gold or platinum.
Badu and Jill Scott albums didn't even ? gold.
Why the hell would any artist make music for a demographic who doesn't support them. Usher can make some ? like ? that goes 3 x platinum and take him worldwide, over a niche r and b song that does nothing for him other than apease nostalgic traditional r and b fans.
Look at what is selling, stadium and pop sounding music (Flo Ridah, Rihanna, Pitbull). All that rave sounding music is what's translating commercially and what sells out stadiums.
Beyonce- 4---- 1.2 million sold
Melanie Fiona- MF Life---- 54,000 sold
Keyshia Cole- Calling all Hearts---- +/- 500,000 sold
Jazmine Sullivan- Love Me Back---- n/a
Mary J. Blige- My Life II---- 563,200
Alicia Keys- Element of Freedom---- 1.39 million sold
Trey Songz- Passion, Pain & Pleasure---- 823,000 sold
Omarion- Ollusion---- n/a
VERSUS
Flo-Rida-Only One Flo (Part 1)--- 61,500
Rihanna-Talk That Talk--- 1 million
Pitbull-Planet Pit--- 397,000 -
People say r&b ain't selling but what about rock/ alternative or country or any other genre? Are they selling and if they aren't would kings of Leon or lady antebellum start doing techno inspired music just because its popular? All of ushers news ? sounds generic as ? , almost like the same song. ? is cool and before that, moving mountains was the last joint I really liked from him.
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R and B music is dead, why can't you fool see that.
Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Trey Songz don't really sell ?
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell ?
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
First off, most of them went either platinum or gold, and secondly artists have never made money off of record sales. They make their money off of touring, so why would record sales even matter? As long as you can fill a venue, you're good.
Word to Lauryn Hill who's still touring off of her 1st 2 albums, or Erykah who tours 8 months out of the year.
Btw Beyonce's ? was far from R&B bruh. That ? was as pop as you can get. -
Smh @ writing letters to men..
but in all seriousness after that break up cd whatever the ? it was called.. he went straight pop..
Young Usher > than any other edition of usher.
the whole mainstream genre is filled with popish/ flagrant ? its almost a new genre -
-Vincenzo- wrote: »R and B music is dead, why can't you fool see that.
Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Trey Songz don't really sell ?
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell ?
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
Maxwell moved over 400k first week with his last album. Erykah Badu and Jill Scott both did about 150k... So.....
Maxwell sold that many albums because he has old fans (literally) and the hype of him not making a album in years, same ? for Sade. Still with all that he only went platinum and none of his singles popped off like that to go gold or platinum.
Badu and Jill Scott albums didn't even ? gold.
Why the hell would any artist make music for a demographic who doesn't support them. Usher can make some ? like ? that goes 3 x platinum and take him worldwide, over a niche r and b song that does nothing for him other than apease nostalgic traditional r and b fans.
Look at what is selling, stadium and pop sounding music (Flo Ridah, Rihanna, Pitbull). All that rave sounding music is what's translating commercially and what sells out stadiums.
Beyonce- 4---- 1.2 million sold
Melanie Fiona- MF Life---- 54,000 sold
Keyshia Cole- Calling all Hearts---- +/- 500,000 sold
Jazmine Sullivan- Love Me Back---- n/a
Mary J. Blige- My Life II---- 563,200
Alicia Keys- Element of Freedom---- 1.39 million sold
Trey Songz- Passion, Pain & Pleasure---- 823,000 sold
Omarion- Ollusion---- n/a
VERSUS
Flo-Rida-Only One Flo (Part 1)--- 61,500
Rihanna-Talk That Talk--- 1 million
Pitbull-Planet Pit--- 397,000
Why don't you post the singles sales of Rihanna, Flo Ridah, and Pitbull, i bet your argument gets shut down. -
Is Usher's career is danger or are the chances of Usher's music appealing to your personal tastes in danger?
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-Vincenzo- wrote: »R and B music is dead, why can't you fool see that.
Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Trey Songz don't really sell ?
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell ?
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
Maxwell moved over 400k first week with his last album. Erykah Badu and Jill Scott both did about 150k... So.....
Maxwell sold that many albums because he has old fans (literally) and the hype of him not making a album in years, same ? for Sade. Still with all that he only went platinum and none of his singles popped off like that to go gold or platinum.
Badu and Jill Scott albums didn't even ? gold.
Why the hell would any artist make music for a demographic who doesn't support them. Usher can make some ? like ? that goes 3 x platinum and take him worldwide, over a niche r and b song that does nothing for him other than apease nostalgic traditional r and b fans.
Look at what is selling, stadium and pop sounding music (Flo Ridah, Rihanna, Pitbull). All that rave sounding music is what's translating commercially and what sells out stadiums.
Beyonce- 4---- 1.2 million sold
Melanie Fiona- MF Life---- 54,000 sold
Keyshia Cole- Calling all Hearts---- +/- 500,000 sold
Jazmine Sullivan- Love Me Back---- n/a
Mary J. Blige- My Life II---- 563,200
Alicia Keys- Element of Freedom---- 1.39 million sold
Trey Songz- Passion, Pain & Pleasure---- 823,000 sold
Omarion- Ollusion---- n/a
VERSUS
Flo-Rida-Only One Flo (Part 1)--- 61,500
Rihanna-Talk That Talk--- 1 million
Pitbull-Planet Pit--- 397,000
Why don't you post the singles sales of Rihanna, Flo Ridah, and Pitbull, i bet your argument gets shut down.
one single is 0.99$, one album is 10 times as much, do the math. plus artists that only sell singles, can only do club tours since no one is goin to see a 1.5 hour pitbull or flo-rida show.
the top authentic rnb/hiphop artists outsell the top techno-rnb/hiphop artists everyday of the week son -
Dear T/S,
I didnt read that essay, but if MY career is danger, I have 2 words for u...
Justin Beiber. Thats my ? . I put my ? on. My ? pays me...well.
Thanks for ur concern, Usher.
k....u do know as the years go on,justin bieber is gonna need a bigger
percentage cut to keep him as manager....u do know as justin bieber
gets older on,the more justin bieber more unpopular he gets and soon there
will be a point where he won't be a teen heart throb anymore.thats
just like a ? to sit there and get paid off of someone else's hard work
while he makes these ? ? ass techno songs that nobody likes.
thats wtf we doing now?? cuz its sounds like sucka ass,? ass,living
off of government check ass ? to me...thats not hustling,thats laziness.
hustling is when u do it big for yourself and not having someone else
do it for you...so with that 1 imma have to throw a big ass FOH!! for that
? sir.ty -
ABOUTTHATLIFE wrote: »Dear T/S,
I didnt read that essay, but if MY career is danger, I have 2 words for u...
Justin Beiber. Thats my ? . I put my ? on. My ? pays me...well.
Thanks for ur concern, Usher.
k....u do know as the years go on,justin bieber is gonna need a bigger
percentage cut to keep him as manager....u do know as justin bieber
gets older on,the more justin bieber more unpopular he gets and soon there
will be a point where he won't be a teen heart throb anymore.thats
just like a ? to sit there and get paid off of someone else's hard work
while he makes these ? ? ass techno songs that nobody likes.
thats wtf we doing now?? cuz its sounds like sucka ass,? ass,living
off of government check ass ? to me...thats not hustling,thats laziness.
hustling is when u do it big for yourself and not having someone else
do it for you...so with that 1 imma have to throw a big ass FOH!! for that
? sir.ty
No fool. That's the business. You want him to stay in the spotlight for the rest of his life? If what he's doing is laziness then anyone who calls themselves a manger is and so are these record companies. I suppose he should just stay in a box as a puppet dancing and singing for your own personal enjoyment. Nobody stays at the top forever and he knows that. -
-Vincenzo- wrote: »-Vincenzo- wrote: »R and B music is dead, why can't you fool see that.
Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Trey Songz don't really sell ?
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell ?
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
Maxwell moved over 400k first week with his last album. Erykah Badu and Jill Scott both did about 150k... So.....
Maxwell sold that many albums because he has old fans (literally) and the hype of him not making a album in years, same ? for Sade. Still with all that he only went platinum and none of his singles popped off like that to go gold or platinum.
Badu and Jill Scott albums didn't even ? gold.
Why the hell would any artist make music for a demographic who doesn't support them. Usher can make some ? like ? that goes 3 x platinum and take him worldwide, over a niche r and b song that does nothing for him other than apease nostalgic traditional r and b fans.
Look at what is selling, stadium and pop sounding music (Flo Ridah, Rihanna, Pitbull). All that rave sounding music is what's translating commercially and what sells out stadiums.
Beyonce- 4---- 1.2 million sold
Melanie Fiona- MF Life---- 54,000 sold
Keyshia Cole- Calling all Hearts---- +/- 500,000 sold
Jazmine Sullivan- Love Me Back---- n/a
Mary J. Blige- My Life II---- 563,200
Alicia Keys- Element of Freedom---- 1.39 million sold
Trey Songz- Passion, Pain & Pleasure---- 823,000 sold
Omarion- Ollusion---- n/a
VERSUS
Flo-Rida-Only One Flo (Part 1)--- 61,500
Rihanna-Talk That Talk--- 1 million
Pitbull-Planet Pit--- 397,000
Why don't you post the singles sales of Rihanna, Flo Ridah, and Pitbull, i bet your argument gets shut down.
one single is 0.99$, one album is 10 times as much, do the math. plus artists that only sell singles, can only do club tours since no one is goin to see a 1.5 hour pitbull or flo-rida show.
the top authentic rnb/hiphop artists outsell the top techno-rnb/hiphop artists everyday of the week son
The average artist doesn't even see 1 dollar from every album sold, most artist see all their ringtone and singles sales. LOL at club tours, in what world are you ? living. Pitbull, Flo Ridah, and RIhanna are doing 50k-100k size festivals, ? Clark New Years Eve shows, American Idol, got tv endorsements,etc. These artist are international acts meanwhile people like Trey Songz making traditional artist don't have that reach. -
ABOUTTHATLIFE wrote: »Dear T/S,
I didnt read that essay, but if MY career is danger, I have 2 words for u...
Justin Beiber. Thats my ? . I put my ? on. My ? pays me...well.
Thanks for ur concern, Usher.
k....u do know as the years go on,justin bieber is gonna need a bigger
percentage cut to keep him as manager....u do know as justin bieber
gets older on,the more justin bieber more unpopular he gets and soon there
will be a point where he won't be a teen heart throb anymore.thats
just like a ? to sit there and get paid off of someone else's hard work
while he makes these ? ? ass techno songs that nobody likes.
thats wtf we doing now?? cuz its sounds like sucka ass,? ass,living
off of government check ass ? to me...thats not hustling,thats laziness.
hustling is when u do it big for yourself and not having someone else
do it for you...so with that 1 imma have to throw a big ass FOH!! for that
? sir.ty
No fool. That's the business. You want him to stay in the spotlight for the rest of his life? If what he's doing is laziness then anyone who calls themselves a manger is and so are these record companies. I suppose he should just stay in a box as a puppet dancing and singing for your own personal enjoyment. Nobody stays at the top forever and he knows that.
THIS IS ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT U ? MUTHAFUCKA!!! i was talking about the muthafuckin album
? and not some punk ass white boy.wtf u know about business anyway?? u just saw my comment
and decided to hop on ? and get ur 15 minutes of blog fame FOH!!! -
-Vincenzo- wrote: »-Vincenzo- wrote: »R and B music is dead, why can't you fool see that.
Beyonce put out a r and b album, lowest selling album of her career
Melanie Fiona put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Keisha Cole put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Jazmine Sullivan put out a r and b album, didn't sell ? .
Mary J put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
A Keyes put out a r and b album, didn't sell ?
Trey Songz don't really sell ?
Omarion last album was actually good, didn't sell ?
People keep crying make r and b music but stay not buying albums. The money and sales are in pop/europop right now, these artist are going to go where the money is until r and b fans start buying r and b music. At the end of the day it's the fans who supply the demand, the labels just follow the trend.
Maxwell moved over 400k first week with his last album. Erykah Badu and Jill Scott both did about 150k... So.....
Maxwell sold that many albums because he has old fans (literally) and the hype of him not making a album in years, same ? for Sade. Still with all that he only went platinum and none of his singles popped off like that to go gold or platinum.
Badu and Jill Scott albums didn't even ? gold.
Why the hell would any artist make music for a demographic who doesn't support them. Usher can make some ? like ? that goes 3 x platinum and take him worldwide, over a niche r and b song that does nothing for him other than apease nostalgic traditional r and b fans.
Look at what is selling, stadium and pop sounding music (Flo Ridah, Rihanna, Pitbull). All that rave sounding music is what's translating commercially and what sells out stadiums.
Beyonce- 4---- 1.2 million sold
Melanie Fiona- MF Life---- 54,000 sold
Keyshia Cole- Calling all Hearts---- +/- 500,000 sold
Jazmine Sullivan- Love Me Back---- n/a
Mary J. Blige- My Life II---- 563,200
Alicia Keys- Element of Freedom---- 1.39 million sold
Trey Songz- Passion, Pain & Pleasure---- 823,000 sold
Omarion- Ollusion---- n/a
VERSUS
Flo-Rida-Only One Flo (Part 1)--- 61,500
Rihanna-Talk That Talk--- 1 million
Pitbull-Planet Pit--- 397,000
Why don't you post the singles sales of Rihanna, Flo Ridah, and Pitbull, i bet your argument gets shut down.
one single is 0.99$, one album is 10 times as much, do the math. plus artists that only sell singles, can only do club tours since no one is goin to see a 1.5 hour pitbull or flo-rida show.
the top authentic rnb/hiphop artists outsell the top techno-rnb/hiphop artists everyday of the week son
The average artist doesn't even see 1 dollar from every album sold, most artist see all their ringtone and singles sales. LOL at club tours, in what world are you ? living. Pitbull, Flo Ridah, and RIhanna are doing 50k-100k size festivals, ? Clark New Years Eve shows, American Idol, got tv endorsements,etc. These artist are international acts meanwhile people like Trey Songz making traditional artist don't have that reach.
if you name the 5 top techno/pop whatever hiphop/rnb artists and put them against the 5 top authentic hiphop/rnb artists that should speak for itself:
Beyonce, Alicia Keys, Kanye, Lil Wayne, Eminem all outsell your artists easily. And 4 of them have huge international pull. Plus they have separate touring deals and see all the money for their tv appearances and endorsements.
Florida, Jason Derulo etc probably have 360 deals and also in contrast to your belief give a large share of their singles sales to the label, otherwise it would be completely pointless to sign them in the first place. And it's 2012, no one buys ringtones anymore, you go with the ? thats on the phone.
