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I know it's late, but I never saw this. It's pretty funny especially given the fight's outcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZNM5raAM0o

Rumor is Jones and Silva both do not want to fight each other.

I kinda dont see how they can continue to dodge each other

Light Hvyweight is kinda sparse.

If GSP wins his next fight he's fighting Silva at catchweight. GSP will get destroyed.....

Jones maybe the first competitor that Silva takes seriously.

Jones actually has nice skillset.

I mean just because of the depth of Silva's martial knowledge I'd give the fight to him.

pralims wrote: »

The Lonious Monk wrote: »

I like Silva better than Jones, but I don't see Silva beating Jones. If Sonnen could take Silva down and keep him there for a whole fight, Jones can too. The difference is Jones will actually be able to finish once he gets him there.

but sonnen did that while silva had a broekn rib and the grandma or somebody just passed.

at full health...sonnen got ? .

i dont think jones and silva should fight each other...an yes, im about to make it racial.

i rather see two black men at the top...thats why they dont want gsp fighting....they want one of these ? to drop off.

naw...black men...rule your division and dominate all pink toes.

You forget Sonnen did the very same thing to Silva in the first round of the second fight. Again, if Sonnen can do that, so can Jones and Jones will actually finish once it gets to that point.

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LMMFAO @ Bonnar's ? expression after that pinpoint accurate knee to the liver. I'm weak.

The Lonious Monk wrote: »

I like Silva better than Jones, but I don't see Silva beating Jones. If Sonnen could take Silva down and keep him there for a whole fight, Jones can too. The difference is Jones will actually be able to finish once he gets him there.

Jones and Sonnen have different styles though. Sonnen is more aggressive and utilizes double and single leg takedowns from the outside to get his opponents to the mat. Sonnen's striking is just a supplement to his main goal which is to take you down. He's even willing to eat some shots going in and he has the chin to take them.

With Jones, he uses a variety of takedown techniques but I think he mainly gets his takedowns from the clinch, which Silva is fairly strong in. Also he likes to stand with his opponents for prolonged periods of time which probably wouldn't be a good idea against Silva.

That said, if Jones can take down Machida, he can take down Silva. The thing is Silva is pretty good off his back though.

Greg Jackson is a master gameplanner though so if Jones were to fight Silva they'd build one optimal to beating Silva.
Silva's just so unpredictable though. Needless to say it's an interesting fight.

pralims wrote: »

The Lonious Monk wrote: »

I like Silva better than Jones, but I don't see Silva beating Jones. If Sonnen could take Silva down and keep him there for a whole fight, Jones can too. The difference is Jones will actually be able to finish once he gets him there.

but sonnen did that while silva had a broekn rib and the grandma or somebody just passed.

at full health...sonnen got ? .

i dont think jones and silva should fight each other...an yes, im about to make it racial.

i rather see two black men at the top...thats why they dont want gsp fighting....they want one of these ? to drop off.

naw...black men...rule your division and dominate all pink toes.

No one besides arguably GSP presents a challenge though. A lot of people are gassing up Chris Weidman but IMO I don't even think he'd get past Belfort or Bisping. With Jones only people left are Henderson who barely has a punchers chance, Gustassfon who already got wrestlefucked by Phil Davis, and Machida again who still won't have anything for Jones.

Don't know if you guys ? with Jack Slack from ? Elbow, but he tends to give pretty good striking breakdowns. He did an article on Silva's cage strategy yesterday.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/10/14/3501572/ufc-153-results-anderson-silva-Stephan-Bonnar-Judo-Chop

If you don't feel like reading the whole thing, here's the important stuff.

1. Silva holds Bonnar's right wrist with both of his hands.

2. Bonnar tries to hit Silva with his free hand, Silva takes his head to the other side of Bonnar's body - making it difficult for Bonnar to hit him with power.

3. Bonnar grips the back of Silva's head and switches his feet, telegraphing a knee.

4. Silva stands upright and turns his body as if to shoulder roll - as he is still holding Bonnar's right wrist he uses Bonnar's own arm to deflect the knee.

1. Silva and Bonnar are tied up, Bonnar is moving his head back and forth.

2. Silva performs a small jumping motion with his legs, shoulder bumping Bonnar in the nose. This creates space between the men.

3. Silva pushes Bonnar away.

4. Silva connects a hard knee.

1. Silva uses his elbows and forearms to deflect any elbow strikes Bonnar throws.

2. Silva assumes a high guard to block Bonnar's punches. Notice that he takes punches on his elbows rather than his gloves. This is important in MMA because covering with the gloves is as good as worthless but is still taught by some coaches.

*****

3. Silva demonstrates the side step he used all night. He begins with his hands down against the cage.

4. Silva steps off to his left (to the outside of Bonnar's right elbow as Bonnar punches) and uses his left hand to parry the punch if it follows him. From here Silva landed a short right hook and re-clinched.

1. Silva has a 2-on-1 on Bonnar's left arm.

2. Silva hooks behind Bonnar's left leg with his right and drives him over it.

3. As he drops the trapping knee to the floor Silva uses his right hand to catch Bonnar's elevated left foot and uses his left hand to drive Bonnar's hips backward.

4. Bonnar hits the deck and starts to come up but Silva is already on his feet and chasing the American.

Below is the finish as Silva drives Bonnar into the fence. Few fighters take advantage of the elasticity of the fence but there is little doubt in my mind that this was Silva's intention as he drove Bonnar into it. He doesn't follow Bonnar into the fence but performs a jumping switch step in order to have his left knee meet Bonnar on his return

This was one of the best cards this year. Anderson Silva once again showed us all why he's the goat. He played with Bonner like he played with Maia a few years ago but now he finished it. It kinda reminded of Roy Jones in his better days when he planted himself in the corner (who's old enough to remember that?). Which other fighter can show such domincance by standing against the cage to let his opponent do his thing? No way Bonner was gonna win that fight. Most be demoralizing for someone like Bonner.

There ain't really a credible contender for Anderson Silva. He's gonna retire as the GOAT I guess. Guess I'm the only one who doesn't really want to see Silva vs. Jones. I wanna see Silva vs. GSP though.
I liked that armbar Nogueira put on Herman BTW. I was really happy for him.

Yeah don't know what was Herman's problem.

I know Jones Silva will become inevitable as time passes but I'm not really anticipating that fight. One reason why that fight wouldn't materialize could be because the marketability of both fighters. While Anderson Silva is the GOAT he's not that popular with the masses beacause a. most casual fans can't appreciate his class, b. he can't speak English that well, c. he's black. Jon Jones is one of the most hated champs out there. UFC is about business. Why you think Brock got nthat titleshot with that record a few years ago? Why you think Kimbo got a chance on TUF? They had to cut him when he lost to a gatekeeper (Mittrione). Iono how they would sell that Jones Silva fight TBH.

I heard similar rumors about Silva vs. GSP but we'll see. I don't see how GSP could beat him except for scoring takedowns and keeping him on the ground, grinding out a boring decision win like he's been doing ever since Matt Serra knocked him out (yeah I said it).

Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen will be coaching TUF and fighting on April 27th.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-ufc-jon-jones-chael-sonnen-ultimate-fighter-20121016,0,1269872.story

sonnen is one lucky muthafucka