Rewriting Evolution ~ Darwin was wrong

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  • Bodhi
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  • Drew_Ali
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    edited March 2013
    kai_valya wrote: »
    quit lying
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    LOL.....




    I don't want to get embarrassed...... 








    11:7
    Sahih International
    And it is He who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water - that He might test you as to which of you is best in deed. But if you say, "Indeed, you are resurrected after death," those who disbelieve will surely say, "This is not but obvious magic."




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    i blame translations, cuz they can be misleading, the word ayyama does not mean day in th literal sense, it means stage or phase




    Yes........




    Translations are always posing problems with interpretations........




    Any known problems surrounding the meaning of creation/إخلق ??????????????




    23:14
    Sahih International
    Then We made the sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump [of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We covered the bones with flesh; then We developed him into another creation. So blessed is Allah , the best of creators.




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    that verse is about embryonic development, what's your point















    blessed is Allah , the best of creators.....................








    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    @Kai_Valya

    We should ask these Anti-Evolutionist

    Where is their nobel peace prize?

    Or their Peer-reviewed papers disproving it.

    i've got an even better one for them, why do they go to get a new flu shot every year. what was wrong with the shot they got last year

    @kai

    Please watch.....

    http://youtu.be/deS8zhtU4N0
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    I can't front, this thread makes no sense to me.. Idek what ya'll debating/discussing..
    100 Prime wrote: »
    so.... how did the computer make itself.

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    Well to sum it up......

    If you believe in the theory of evolution then......

    You also believe in this.......

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    On the low......

    It is more important than you can possibly imagine.........


    you're thinking about evolution in linear terms, and it doesn't work like that. individuals don't evolve, species don't evolve, populations evolve. individuals in a population vary and those that survive propgate their genes, over time the populations evolves. as this happens again and agian over millions of years you would end up with a very different species in one population than you would in the other one, based on what genes survived in the population and which were eliminated.

    evolution doesn't go in a straight line, it's ever more intricately branching web

    Different does not equal a new species.......

    "I also think that racial differences are a long way from being cosmetic, and there’s no evolutionary reason for us to be the homogeneous species that a lot of people claim we are- it would mean evolution stopped the day modern humans evolved, which is just anti-logic........

    There’s biological evidence to the contrary, like different gestation spans, twinning rates etc, and more recent genetics publications that have outright backed race as valid. Which will instantly label me as a racist in many peoples eyes, which is probably why a lot of publishing Phds don’t comment publicly on race"...........

    if it's different enough (as in two pop. not being able to produce viable offspring) yes that does equal a new species


    But this has never been observed..........


    speciation has never been observed? to different populations diverging and going on to result in different species has never occured? seriously?


    Seriously......

    Not one new species named from these "observations.......

    so you use a video from creationists to support your point? you've got to be kidding me

    Everything said in that video is academically correct................

    Mutation is the cause for a new flu shot every year........

    You don't go get an "ulf" shot one year and the "flu" the next........

    From year to year it is the influenza virus.......

    Nothing more nothing less.....

    The virus mutates but does not "evolve" into a new species........



    is it really? show me the studies and evidence that support the assertion that speciation never occurs, i'll wait

    Not to be pretentious......

    But you should be providing evidence that it does occur.......

    The main example used by evolutionists is Diane Dodd's fruit fly experiment........

    However......

    Diane Dodd's fruit flies are still fruit flies, regardless of whether they prefer mates who eat maltose or starch......

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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    What facts of evolution?????????


    *crickets*


  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ahhhhhh.....

    Where was I ???????

    Oh yes.....................










    Uprooting the Tree of Life
    http://shiva.msu.montana.edu/courses/mb437_537_2005_fall/docs/uprooting.pdf
    File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
    by WF Doolittle

    "This “tree” also lacks a single cell at the root; the three major domains
    of life probably arose from a population of primitive cells that differed in their genes."

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  • Neophyte Wolfgang
    Neophyte Wolfgang Members Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are stuck in a theory and are not willing to change your mind, you're probably wrong, atleast in the long run science adapts to new experiments, discoveries, and information. In 1000 years they will either debunk most of what Darwin thought or simply modify it
  • Drew_Ali
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    edited March 2013
    I Am Jay ? wrote: »
    atleast in the long run science adapts to new experiments, discoveries, and information. In 1000 years they will either debunk most of what Darwin thought or simply modify it

    I see people say that science adapts to new information a lot around here........

    This is simply incorrect............

    The field of science is similar to many other business models............

    A company, or in this case school or institution has put everything that it has into a certain theory or set of ideals..............

    New information that changes the destination of money or in this case paradigm..............

    Will likely meet resistance..........

    Science is not as adaptive as most people think..............

    Even questioning established "norms" like evolution or biological human variation can get professionals expelled or banned for questioning "science".........

    Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (full movie)
    http://youtu.be/V5EPymcWp-g

  • Drew_Ali
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    edited March 2013
    Will Scientists Ever Be Able to Piece Together Humanity's Early Origins?
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=will-scientists-ever-be-able-piece-together-humanitys-early-origins

    This article was originally published with the title Shattered Ancestry.

    *Not with the fossil record*

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    In Brief

    Paleoanthropologists have long thought that humans descended from a chimpanzeelike ancestor and that early human fossils belonged to a single evolving lineage. According to this view, only later did our predecessors diversify into multiple overlapping branches of humans, of which our species is the sole survivor.

    Recent fossil discoveries have upended that scenario, however, providing intriguing evidence that the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees may not have looked particularly chimplike and that our early forebearers were not alone in Africa.

    The findings are forcing researchers to reconsider what traits indicate that a species belongs on the line leading to us—and to question whether it will ever be possible to identify our last common ancestor.

  • absentstarseed
    absentstarseed Members Posts: 5
    Whatever. Look at http://www.twitter.com/absentstarseed for some ? details.
  • Drew_Ali
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    Irreversible Evolution? Dust Mites Show Parasites Can Violate Dollo’s Law
    By Christie Wilcox | March 8, 2013 5:00 pm

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    In evolutionary biology, the notion of irreversibility is known as Dollo’s Law after the Belgian paleontologist that first hypothesized it in 1893. He stated that once a lineage had lost or modified organs or structures, that they couldn’t turn back the clock and un-evolve those changes. Or, as he put it, “an organism is unable to return, even partially, to a previous stage already realized in the ranks of its ancestors.”

    While this isn’t the first time that Dollo’s Law has been questioned, it’s the first strong evidence that parasitism might not be the evolutionary “blind alley” we tend to describe it as. The more scientists use genetics to study the evolutionary relationships between organisms, the more they find that Dollo’s Law is less law-like than once thought, broadening our understanding of evolution as a whole and challenging our assumptions about how it works.
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/science-sushi/?p=2641#.UT62mRwz0th


    Another one bites the dust.................

    *BIG PUN*

  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
    @sion.....@oceanic......

    You ? could never defeat me.............

    I am the illest poster these boards have ever seen..........

    Only ? to get banned for ethering average posters as well as the mods........

    Come back on some "red dead redemption" ? and get myself unbanned......

    On some "Grand Champion" ? ........

    The whole time pouring hot doses of ether on ? ........

    We all know who the real champion is.........

    I gave ya'll ? the opportunity to kneel before the ? ..........

    Now, I send my scourge on you ? .......

    Every wack poster should be on alert............

    The SL & R&R are now moderated by the ? .............

    Any time I see wack ? around here I will attack with a fury that surpasses the Gods..............

    With the exception of @janklow......

    All posters are in danger......

    All the rest of these "mods" have banned me or threatened to ban me for my unadulterated ether......

    The only mod that could stand in the presence of hot ether & not act like a lil' ? .....

    *you impress me human*



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    *Bambu conquers and controls everything he rests his eyes upon*




  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah.....

    Mash buttons ? ......

    You would not dare step to the ? ...........

  • whar
    whar Members Posts: 347 ✭✭✭
    Man lose a single debate ... lose your damn mind.
  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
    I lost no debate here......

    & possess full mental capabilities......

    I never agreed to that debate.........

    Went thru with it for the hell of it.........

    The mod told me one thing and did another.......

    Exhibit A:
    Sion April 21
    Alright gentlemen to figure this out we gotta decide on a topic. I thought the existence of ? topic was cool but I want to make sure both of yall on the same page. Come up with topics you guys are comfortable with and want to debate.
    Drew_Ali April 21
    Whites becoming extinct.............
    Sion April 22
    Nah fam that one isn't going to be popular with posters, seems so one sided too. At least give the ? a topic that's worth debating. After all yall did agree to debate against each other.
    Drew_Ali April 22
    Ok.....

    However the ? debate seems asinine......
    Oceanic April 22
    Lol you will lose
    Oceanic April 22
    I'm down, Sion. Good call.
    Oceanic April 22
    Could I request that we have the topic reworded to intelligent design since "? " is such a loaded word?
    Oceanic April 22
    the new wording would be, "the existence of an intelligent designer"
    Drew_Ali April 22
    LOL......

    I will agree to any debate with you......

    After you acknowledge defeat of the previous "whites will be extinct" argument....

    Kneel....
    Sion April 22
    Ok are you guys cool debating in a new thread called "the existence of an intelligent designer" ?
    Oceanic April 22
    I'm cool with that @Sion
    Sion April 22
    Alright perfect,

    Drew_Ali are you cool with that as well ?
    Drew_Ali April 22
    Again.....

    I will debate any topic......

    After defeat of the previous "whites will be extinct" argument is acknowledged....


    Oceanic April 22
    foh with that


    Oceanic April 22
    We didn't even argue that topic. Stop trying to wiggle out of a debate.
    Oceanic April 22
    @Sion, if he continues to trip, can I debate someone else on the same topic??
    Drew_Ali April 22
    No....

    Not after your attempts to assassinate and slander me in several threads.......

    You were defeated soundly......

    So much so that you changed your stance on the topic.......

    However....

    You now perpetrate like you want to actually debate the topic........

    You will concede defeat........

    Or be prepared to argue your misbegotten theory...........

    Sion April 22
    Ok I'm going to edit the first thread that's locked & yall will debate.
    Oceanic April 22
    "Nah fam that one isn't going to be popular with posters, seems so one sided too. At least give the ? a topic that's worth debating. After all yall did agree to debate against each other."
    Oceanic April 22
    cool
    Sion April 22
    Thread has been re-edited as "The Existence of an Intelligent Designer" & it's open.
    Drew_Ali April 22
    This ? has yet to accept defeat......

    Their will be no glory in his sacrifice.......
    Drew_Ali April 22
    I will have his s\n erased from the histories.......
    Sion April 22
    ^^^ Got dayum LOLOL

    Gonna be dope as hell to see what yall come with

    And you of all people know that I have already bodied all you atheists on this subject......

    This thread is exhibit P.....

    Unless you want to test your skills & show that Darwin was right..........




  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
    I could care less.....

    Nothing else to prove here...

    However, I am not the one who made an ass of himself.....

    The ? that lied and cheated made ? of themselves, b......

  • Ajackson17
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    Sion wrote: »
    Didn't read but who cares. This seems so petty to drag it on. You made an ass of yourself & lost fair and square. You could have probably won the debate if you put more effort into it. You should be directing your frustrations to the Champion not me.

    Exactly, man, I wasn't feeling you to your last bit of the debate and even than you lost still. If you can't humble yourself after this man, it will be a rocky road.
  • DMTxTHC
    DMTxTHC Members Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Win or lose, this ? bambu is entertaining.. lol..
  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    Sion wrote: »
    Didn't read but who cares. This seems so petty to drag it on. You made an ass of yourself & lost fair and square. You could have probably won the debate if you put more effort into it. You should be directing your frustrations to the Champion not me.

    Exactly, man, I wasn't feeling you to your last bit of the debate and even than you lost still. If you can't humble yourself after this man, it will be a rocky road.

    I battled two stand-up guys (champions themselves) to get the belt @pralims & @Young_Chitlin .......

    No shade thrown at all.......

    Only respect due........

    ? that ? @oceanic.........

    I shot a fair one.........

    This ? took cheap-shots & couldn't even "shake hands" after the ? was over...............

    And the ? hoed out and and didn't want to debate what I chose......

    Even after the mods said it was on me......

    Miss me with your feelings, b..........

    Had to bring it here cause the thread got locked...........

    I said what I had to say.......

    Ya'll ? is lunch-meat.............





  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    bambu wrote: »
    With the exception of @janklow......
    (nods)
  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
    Fossils Indicate Common Ancestor for Old World Monkeys and Apes

    Find suggests Old World monkeys and apes diverged 25 million years ago.

    Chris Palmer
    15 May 2013
    http://www.nature.com/news/fossils-indicate-common-ancestor-for-two-primate-groups-1.12997

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    Two new Oligocene primates found in Tanzania, Rukwapithecus fleaglei (foreground left) and Nsungwepithecus gunnelli (background right), are shown here in an artist's reconstruction.


    However......
    Nature wrote: »
    Many fossils from the late Oligocene are teeth, so it is common to use them for species identification. However, basing the identification of a new primate on a single tooth fossil has lead to the occasional case of mistaken identity in the fossil record.



    LOL @ the nerve of these anti-creationists...........


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  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Win or lose, this ? bambu is entertaining.. lol..

    I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown??????

    I'm here to ? amuse you????

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  • Bodhi
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  • Bodhi
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    edited May 2013
    bambu wrote: »
    You would not dare step to the ? loser...........

    Already did. And we see how that turned out.
    bambu wrote: »
    ? that ? @oceanic.........

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  • Bodhi
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    edited May 2013
  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2013
    LOL @ this ? ass, stupid ass ? .......
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    The web conceptualization still does not get rid of common descent. A web still springs from one point.

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    Correction........

    A web springs from one creator........

    Material on one side is only related to material on the other by its creator........................

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  • bambu
    bambu Members Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Ahhhhhh.....

    Where was I ???????

    Oh yes.....................










    Uprooting the Tree of Life
    http://shiva.msu.montana.edu/courses/mb437_537_2005_fall/docs/uprooting.pdf
    File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
    by WF Doolittle

    "This “tree” also lacks a single cell at the root; the three major domains
    of life probably arose from a population of primitive cells that differed in their genes."

    Web_Of_Life.jpg