LOL WOW... Rolando McClain Retires from the NFL at the AGE OF 23.

perspective@100 wrote: »

major pain wrote: »

My ? . I didn't think this could get any stupider < (that's on purpose btw)

You mad bro?

Clearly.

One of us is making small concise posts. The other is typing paragraph after paragraph and said "No, more like frustrated...".

Let's just sum this up.

Comparing professional athletes to slavery (wage slavery, even) is ridiculous. Mostly, because its their choice to do ANY of it. Arguing this, is just you trying to defend not sounding stupid, but that's not going so well.

perspective@100 wrote: »

Once again the reading comprehension comes into play. Who formed a comparison? The Topic of slavery being compared to the NFL was started by YOU. The metaphor of slavery was used by me to describe football in general.

The underlined implies that you are now nitpicking at the difference between comparing slavery to the NFL and comparing slavery to 'football in general' (meaning other levels of football)

Seems a little contradictory when lookin over your previous posts

perspective@100 wrote: »

? less u got mo money than he do just shut da ? up... He is more well off den you will ever B... and at 23 btw smart guy

My point of saying its like "slavery" is because of the way they are treated, and have to train/practice. Then they are traded as commodities and finally cut and pretty much ban. Your probably a slave to your job or profession. Slave is a common term used to describe a job. Its old slang you young punk. Also not getting paid is NOT a rule of slavery... Go look up wage slave, all of you I mean cosign cosign ether ether lol

Surely you don't get paid, or traded as commodities/cut/banned in any other level of football besides NFL.

So why would you state that you were talking about "football in general" when this post clearly is talkin about the nfl specifically?


Reading comprehension, bro.

You aren't understanding. Lemme dumb it down.

You claim the slavery comparison applies to football in general.
You then proceed to back up that claim with actions that only apply to the nfl specifically.
That's just wrong.

Playing in the NFL =/= playing any other level of football.

Lol you getting emotional. Misspelling ? . Slow down bruh. Never did I say you said anything about a plantation.

How bout you finish your explanation? You just said:

perspective@100 wrote: »

I said:

perspective@100 wrote: »

I can tell from all of your post in this thread you ? never played football. That ? aint nothing but slavery.

WHICH LEAD INTO YOU ELABORATING AND SAYING THIS:

perspective@100 wrote: »

My point of saying its like "slavery" is because of the way they are treated, and have to train/practice. Then they are traded as commodities and finally cut and pretty much ban.

I am just disputing this:

perspective@100 wrote: »

The actions described apply to all levels

Because they don't apply to all levels. And you admit some of it yourself here:

perspective@100 wrote: »

accept except for getting traded as commoditties commodities

So I will explain how the rest don't apply to all levels.

In the order of the things you mentioned in the aforementioned elaboration:

1) Lol @ you knowing how ? "get treated" in the NFL. It isn't the same.
2) You have to train/practice at every level, yet it is more intense and rigourous on the professional level.
3) You already agreed this doesn't happen on any other level than NFL
4) Getting cut in the nfl =/= getting cut in high school, college, middle school, or ? wee. For the very simple facts that contracts and money are involved. And in the NFL, getting cut = getting FIRED FROM YOUR JOB, where in every other level it is not.
5) Getting "banned" from a sport is so rare it isn't even worth mentioning.



My ultimate point, since you have trouble simply following along, is that the actions in which you are attempting to compare with slavery only apply to the nfl. Not all levels of football. Therefore, you shouldn't claim to say all levels of football compare to slavery.


Don't dispute this.

This ? thinks he's a poet.

Ok, so in defending your stance of comparing ALL levels of football to slavery, and not just the NFL, you come up with:

perspective@100 wrote: »

1.) NFL players get "treated" as commodities. Same as slaves -*check (no not the same way literally, agreed)

Saying they get treated as commodities is extremely vague and can be applied to just about any relationship in life to a certain degree. You'd need to clarify what you think you mean by saying this.

I'm pretty sure it will still further enhance my point.

perspective@100 wrote: »

2.) College level training especially D1 can be as rigorous as the NFL, but all football training is hard*check (includes more than just NFL level)

First off, don't cut corners. You are attempting to compare slavery to ALL levels of football, not "[one] more than just NFL level"

But... yup. Them 12 year old ? in middle school sure do work they ? off like slaves in the same way professional athletes do.

No.

It is NOT all levels of football that go through the same training regimen as the nfl players who do this ? for a living.

Either way, lol @ comparing it to slavery simply because you do strength/weight training.

perspective@100 wrote: »

3.)Only said trading players happens in the NFL but was mentioned to show connection with metaphor *check

Already supports my stance.

perspective@100 wrote: »

4.)Players cut in private high schools have contractual agreements to the school. Players cut in college usually have scholarships depending on the player. Still contracts and money are involved. Also the players who play for free in high school or ? wee show relation to slavery metaphorically by participating in a brutal sport even though willingly. Not all slavery was against one's will. *check

Wowwww have a ? seat.

So a "brutal sport" (that most players ENJOY) is comparable to slavery metaphorically. Gtfoh.

Keyword: sport.

You know you are reaching with this.

But besides that ridiculous reach, care to explain how getting cut from an nfl team or suspended from a college team relates to slavery? I'd love to see you try.

perspective@100 wrote: »

5.) Players who use performance enhancing drugs in High school or College are ban from all sports at that school. Not as rare as you may think. *check

And in many cases they will simply transfer. Goodbye "ban".

Name 5 players banned from the nfl.

And then compare this to slavery.





You are

r-e-a-c-h-i-n-g.

coop9889 wrote: »

This ? thinks he's a poet.

Ok, so in defending your stance of comparing ALL levels of football to slavery, and not just the NFL, you come up with:

perspective@100 wrote: »

1.) NFL players get "treated" as commodities. Same as slaves -*check (no not the same way literally, agreed)

Saying they get treated as commodities is extremely vague and can be applied to just about any relationship in life to a certain degree. You'd need to clarify what you think you mean by saying this.

I'm pretty sure it will still further enhance my point.

perspective@100 wrote: »

2.) College level training especially D1 can be as rigorous as the NFL, but all football training is hard*check (includes more than just NFL level)

First off, don't cut corners. You are attempting to compare slavery to ALL levels of football, not "[one] more than just NFL level"

But... yup. Them 12 year old ? in middle school sure do work they ? off like slaves in the same way professional athletes do.

No.

It is NOT all levels of football that go through the same training regimen as the nfl players who do this ? for a living.

Either way, lol @ comparing it to slavery simply because you do strength/weight training.

perspective@100 wrote: »

3.)Only said trading players happens in the NFL but was mentioned to show connection with metaphor *check

Already supports my stance.

perspective@100 wrote: »

4.)Players cut in private high schools have contractual agreements to the school. Players cut in college usually have scholarships depending on the player. Still contracts and money are involved. Also the players who play for free in high school or ? wee show relation to slavery metaphorically by participating in a brutal sport even though willingly. Not all slavery was against one's will. *check

Wowwww have a ? seat.

So a "brutal sport" (that most players ENJOY) is comparable to slavery metaphorically. Gtfoh.

Keyword: sport.

You know you are reaching with this.

But besides that ridiculous reach, care to explain how getting cut from an nfl team or suspended from a college team relates to slavery? I'd love to see you try.

perspective@100 wrote: »

5.) Players who use performance enhancing drugs in High school or College are ban from all sports at that school. Not as rare as you may think. *check

And in many cases they will simply transfer. Goodbye "ban".

Name 5 players banned from the nfl.

And then compare this to slavery.





You are

r-e-a-c-h-i-n-g.

Poet? ? , everybody uses metaphors...


Wow, how is using a metaphor reaching? Not cutting corners, just not a rule that everything a metaphor describes has to have a literal meaning across the board and be constricted to specific rules.

1.)Saying they get treated as commodities is not vague, its a direct relation. They (NFL Players)are treated as property that you can put a price on and trade or purchase for value. Its your Opinion that it is vague.

2.) The metaphor applies more than one level of football (which is more than adequate for usage). No rule says a metaphor must apply directly and absolutely across the board.

12 year old's in middle school or ? wee football are trained as athletes and still do tons of conditioning that the average non-athlete would dare not attempt. Is it NFL? No. Is it rigorous and tough? Yes. If football was easy every one would play it.

3.) Metaphors are not literal. So you stating that something does not apply across different levels of football holds no water.

4.) You act as if slaves never participated in "sports". Have you ever heard of Gladiators? Not reaching at all.
Getting cut relates to the commodity aspect. One has no control over their livelihood.

5.)The ban is still at the original school and sometimes that's the only school within their community. Will they find a way to transfer? Probably because they have no other options.

coop9889 wrote: »

Name 5 players banned from the nfl.

And then compare this to slavery.

? for what? Ask lil wayne to make sense of all the metaphors he uses. GTFOH, I've shown various similarities and relations.

Like I said none of you ? ever played football. Its an inside thing football players like to joke about. Hell even Dave Chappelle joked around with the subject on his show that had the racial draft. Why you ? so sensitive damn.

@perspective

coop9889 wrote: »

perspective@100 wrote: »

Poet? ? , everybody uses metaphors...


Wow, how is using a metaphor reaching? Not cutting corners, just not a rule that everything a metaphor describes has to have a literal meaning across the board and be constricted to specific rules.

1.)Saying they get treated as commodities is not vague, its a direct relation. They (NFL Players)are treated as property that you can put a price on and trade or purchase for value. Its your Opinion that it is vague.

2.) The metaphor applies more than one level of football (which is more than adequate for usage). No rule says a metaphor must apply directly and absolutely across the board.

12 year old's in middle school or ? wee football are trained as athletes and still do tons of conditioning that the average non-athlete would dare not attempt. Is it NFL? No. Is it rigorous and tough? Yes. If football was easy every one would play it.

3.) Metaphors are not literal. So you stating that something does not apply across different levels of football holds no water.

4.) You act as if slaves never participated in "sports". Have you ever heard of Gladiators? Not reaching at all.
Getting cut relates to the commodity aspect. One has no control over their livelihood.

5.)The ban is still at the original school and sometimes that's the only school within their community. Will they find a way to transfer? Probably because they have no other options.

coop9889 wrote: »

Name 5 players banned from the nfl.

And then compare this to slavery.

? for what? Ask lil wayne to make sense of all the metaphors he uses. GTFOH, I've shown various similarities and relations.

Like I said none of you ? ever played football. Its an inside thing football players like to joke about. Hell even Dave Chappelle joked around with the subject on his show that had the racial draft. Why you ? so sensitive damn.

You are really stuck on this metaphor ? aren't you.

1) If that is truly your reasoning for why they are commodities, than that is something that is restricted to the NFL and the NFL only. Thank you for proving my point on that one in your own words.

2) This point needs not even be discussed further simply for the fact it has nothing to do with the premise of slavery. There are many actions in which you can do rigorous physical exercise, and it does not denote, in any form or fashion, slavery.

Your words in regards to this point were "My point of saying its like "slavery" is because... ...they have to train/practice"

Really?

Lol. Ludicrous. Silly. Even stupid, bordering on trolling.

3) So now you try to fall back on this metaphor ? . What a cop out. Yes anything can be a metaphor for anything. I can say my cell phone is a purple dinosaur. Then when called out on my stupidity, just say "its a metaphor" and technically be correct. Don't mean it ain't stupid. It is a sign of intelligence if one can make an accurate correlation between the two. Which you aren't doing.

Regardless, I've already proven the point on #3 because you agreed with me. Trading only happens in the NFL.

4) You are way off base here.

A slave becoming a gladiator is not akin to a high school player playing football.

Playing football is 100% optional for everyone, with no consequences to not playing it. Becoming a gladiator was not 100% optional for most of them, most of them being condemned to the battles. Gtfoh with this weak "metaphor".

And you don't get cut from the high school level unless you DID something to make yourself get cut. Misconduct, grades etc... Hence, you ARE in control of your livelihood. Whereas in the NFL you can be cut from your contract tomorrow without your say so. Therefore, once again, proving my ORIGINAL point about the NFL not being the same as the other levels of football.


5) Which has WHAT to do with your weak slavery metaphor exactly? What does being banned from a high school/college sports team have to do with your metaphor?

And I asked you to name players banned from the NFL cuz I bet you can't. It never happens. Yet another way in which the NFL is not the same as other levels of football in which you seem to claim.

Just give up bruh bruh.

Give up for what? You make no sense in your argument. I'm just standing by my statements. Even the thread starter gets I was not trying to make the comparison. Its just lack of comprehension from a few of you.

I've more than made the case of similarities to justify the metaphor and all of you can only respond with "well football is voluntary", or "there are no consequences to quitting", or "slaves don't get paid". Then I have provided instances where slaves do all of the above and then you go on to say that's not what I was saying, LOL. It was a metaphor. I was aware of all the different forms of slavery before this thread, and that's why I used it.
If anybody is trolling its you and your butt buddies.

1.) My reasoning? Do you even know what a commodity is?

2.) Um no this plays into the slave metaphor. Harsh training and or physical activity directly relates to slavery especially for work. As I mentioned wage slaves before.

3.) How am I falling back on something that was used in metaphor context in my original statement?
Cell phone is to purple dinosaur as football is to slavery is not even close. And I have made more than an accurate correlation. You just refuse to acknowledge any viable similarities. Your point was that trading only happens in the NFL which I do agree with, but that does not mean I cannot use slavery as a metaphor for football only because it does not apply for every level.

4.) Funny how quickly you denounce other forms of Slavery and say it has nothing to do with this comparison you all created. Gladiators in some cases fought to get out of debt or for freedom or for money. So in essence some had contracts with their masters. They participated in a brutal sport. Some Gladiators were willing participants. How do you deny the similarities? Oh, trolling.

You crazy as ? , ? get cut from High School teams all the time especially if your team is State Caliber. So now I really know you never even knew a football player let alone come close to being on an actual team, haha. You have no knowledge of this subject so I don't even know why I'm entertaining this back and forth with you.

Your point of the NFL not being the same as other levels was never debated. ? I know that ? . I said College training can be just as hard as pro training and unless you have done it you would not know. I played against future NFL athletes while in college and trained with some in the off season so I speak from experience not the made up fairy tale ? you fantasize about in your internet cyber world.

5.) I already said that a ban affects your livelihood. Hence if you are at college on scholarship playing football and you get ousted from the team you can no longer attend the school. No control over your livelihood.

coop9889 wrote: »

And I asked you to name players banned from the NFL cuz I bet you can't. It never happens. Yet another way in which the NFL is not the same as other levels of football in which you seem to claim.

? dont ask me ? ... ? aint got nothing to do with football and slavery as a metaphor...

LMAO... dude said professional athletes are commodities because they can be cut.

Contract

dude really is defending comparing slavery to NFL football nd backin it up, might have to get on my copy nd paste game nd migrate these genius thoughts to da "dumbest things said in the cheap seats" thread

major pain wrote: »

LMAO... dude said professional athletes are commodities because they can be cut.

Contract

Wow ? stretching like Armstrong... Give it up ? . semantics aint ya strong point...

No one I played football with played Pokemon too. Some things just dont mesh well.