So Johnny Depp is basically going Red Faced in the Lone Ranger?
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CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »Can't see how ? are still shocked by this sorta thing. Its Hollywood. They don't give a ? about values or morals.
It's not even morals though. It's just simple respect, and to act like Hollywood would do this all the time with no thought is silly. I don't care what the circumstances, they wouldn't have Johnny Depp playing a black or asian character because they've already done that and gotten burned for it. They are pulling that with the Natives because they have such a small representation. It's the same way that the Redskins can get away with that team name for so long. An honestly, the Natives that cosign this move are idiots. I'm not saying you have to be oversensitive about everything, but people have to know ? is connected. You can't let people get away with stuff like this and expect them not to try and minimize you in other ways.
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the original tonto was a white boy too I think
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »Can't see how ? are still shocked by this sorta thing. Its Hollywood. They don't give a ? about values or morals.
It's not even morals though. It's just simple respect, and to act like Hollywood would do this all the time with no thought is silly. I don't care what the circumstances, they wouldn't have Johnny Depp playing a black or asian character because they've already done that and gotten burned for it. They are pulling that with the Natives because they have such a small representation. It's the same way that the Redskins can get away with that team name for so long. An honestly, the Natives that cosign this move are idiots. I'm not saying you have to be oversensitive about everything, but people have to know ? is connected. You can't let people get away with stuff like this and expect them not to try and minimize you in other ways.
Yo I agree. I really do. But, unless they (Natives) speak up about it, nothin' will happen. -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »Can't see how ? are still shocked by this sorta thing. Its Hollywood. They don't give a ? about values or morals.
It's not even morals though. It's just simple respect, and to act like Hollywood would do this all the time with no thought is silly. I don't care what the circumstances, they wouldn't have Johnny Depp playing a black or asian character because they've already done that and gotten burned for it. They are pulling that with the Natives because they have such a small representation. It's the same way that the Redskins can get away with that team name for so long. An honestly, the Natives that cosign this move are idiots. I'm not saying you have to be oversensitive about everything, but people have to know ? is connected. You can't let people get away with stuff like this and expect them not to try and minimize you in other ways.
Yo I agree. I really do. But, unless they (Natives) speak up about it, nothin' will happen.
Yeah, and since Depp has reached out to at least one tribe to smooth it over, I'm guessing they will let it slide without seeing the big picture.
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I ain't surprised, "21" was a true story about Asian MIT students that got over on a casino, but in the movie it's all white people and an Asian side character. ? em...
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CottonCitySlim wrote: »
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Johnny Depp looks native american anyway.
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they got an Italian to play a cuban in scarface and ? love that ignorant ?
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CopperKing wrote: »theBlackbeard wrote: »fortyacres&amule wrote: »He is part Native American though technically
Word. Everybody got Indian in they family huh?
But what is the Native American community saying about this? Black people like to ? about race, even when it's not our race with the issue. Can't turn a good bitchfest down.
its not ? ....white people threw a hissy fit when edris played hemdal in thor, when fishburne got to play perry in the new superman, when the creator of ? Of War said if a film was ever played he would like djimoun to play kratos and when spiderman in an alternate universe was killed and a half black half hispanic kid took up the mantel in the comic....
how is this ? ...just pointing out the hypocrisy of hollywood...
we dont think a film about a independent african nation will play out good but hey lets make film where a kraka plays a classic indian character
Because it's been happening since the films were silent. We know they pedigree, but this one here? Not my concern. White people ? are especially not my concern. Because when it all comes down to it, those few rolls given to the actors you named were token black guy rolls for the sake of having a black face in the mix.
No my point for using the term "? " is because too many people love to talk about the hypocrisy, until they ignore their own. So your concerned with the character not being portrayed by a Native American due to not being authentic to the original Tonto, yet you seem to be ok with the fact that despite there being no blacks in Norse mythology, or at least in the Thor comic books in the movie Idris Elba was among their Norse gods? The same no?
But I digress. Of course hollywood is racist as ? . If a black man/woman is in a movie they're either single/with some one of another race/? . That black love ? ain't allowed in hollywood. That's an issue. Mainstream (whites) public not wanting to see ? but black movies that make they guilty ? feel good. i.e. The Blind Side, Precious. These are issues. This here? Is a bitchfest like I said. -
No offense but some of you dudes are dense.
Changing the race of a fictional character and getting an actor of that race to play the character =/= Getting an actor of a given race to play a stereotypical charicature of another race.
I'm not saying everyone should be horribly offended by this. I'm not I just thought it was stupid and worth bringing up as a topic of conversation. That said, the reason why this could be offensive shouldn't be as hard to understand as some people are making it seem. -
It would be really bad if they did some auto-biographical film of someone like Chief Crazy Horse, and then used Johnny Depp.
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lol I wouldn't put it past them. Maybe they'll do a Bob Marley biopic and use Johnny.
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They would do an auto-biographical film on MLK and use Emile Hircsh as MLK
They would do an auto-biographical film on Caesar Chavez and use Asian dude from Harold and Kumar as Chavez
They would do an auto-biographical film on Ghengis Kahn and use Bradley Cooper Genghis Kahn
They would do an auto-biographical film on Rasputin and use Denzel as Rasputin -
Will Munny wrote: »They would do an auto-biographical film on MLK and use Emile Hircsh as MLK
They would do an auto-biographical film on Caesar Chavez and use Asian dude from Harold and Kumar as Chavez
They would do an auto-biographical film on Ghengis Kahn and use Bradley Cooper Genghis Kahn
They would do an auto-biographical film on Rasputin and use Denzel as Rasputin
they already did that with John Wayne back in 1956...some things never change.
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fortyacres&amule wrote: »He is part Native American though technically
that white girl can get it!
Anyway Hollywood don't give a ? . Depp = money so what's what they are going to do
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I think it makes you a better actor if you can play someone of an entirely different race & culture and do it well. Word to Deniro being an Italian guy in every movie.
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Except that Robert DeNiro is of Italian descent. His father's grandparents emigrated from Italy and his last name is Italian for ? 's sake.
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That's what I am saying... he plays the same damn ethnicity every time and it's his own ethnicity. What's so hard about that? He gets praised all the time for it too
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Oh I thought you meant that he was a guy with no Italian background always playing Italian characters. My bad.
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theBlackbeard wrote: »CopperKing wrote: »theBlackbeard wrote: »fortyacres&amule wrote: »He is part Native American though technically
Word. Everybody got Indian in they family huh?
But what is the Native American community saying about this? Black people like to ? about race, even when it's not our race with the issue. Can't turn a good bitchfest down.
its not ? ....white people threw a hissy fit when edris played hemdal in thor, when fishburne got to play perry in the new superman, when the creator of ? Of War said if a film was ever played he would like djimoun to play kratos and when spiderman in an alternate universe was killed and a half black half hispanic kid took up the mantel in the comic....
how is this ? ...just pointing out the hypocrisy of hollywood...
we dont think a film about a independent african nation will play out good but hey lets make film where a kraka plays a classic indian character
Because it's been happening since the films were silent. We know they pedigree, but this one here? Not my concern. White people ? are especially not my concern. Because when it all comes down to it, those few rolls given to the actors you named were token black guy rolls for the sake of having a black face in the mix.
No my point for using the term "? " is because too many people love to talk about the hypocrisy, until they ignore their own. So your concerned with the character not being portrayed by a Native American due to not being authentic to the original Tonto, yet you seem to be ok with the fact that despite there being no blacks in Norse mythology, or at least in the Thor comic books in the movie Idris Elba was among their Norse gods? The same no?
But I digress. Of course hollywood is racist as ? . If a black man/woman is in a movie they're either single/with some one of another race/? . That black love ? ain't allowed in hollywood. That's an issue. Mainstream (whites) public not wanting to see ? but black movies that make they guilty ? feel good. i.e. The Blind Side, Precious. These are issues. This here? Is a bitchfest like I said.
the norse ? in mythology is completley diff. from the Gods of the marvel universe who arent actually gods at all but thier aliens from an ancient world with advanced technology...so ur wrong
and kratos in the ? of war is not a token character he is the main character...and a black man does the original kratos voice from the game so it would not be too far off...
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Most white guys don't have the physique to play kratos
no offense