Honest Question: Whats more Closed-Minded?

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  • Premeer
    Premeer Members Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2013
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    Neither. As they are too vague to form an overall summary about how "open" or "closed" a person's mind is.
    great way to nullify the simple question. i see you proceeding with caution. trying to avoid ethering your whole self-belief system.

    but you already know the answer to the question. ill keep that between me and you.
    @gold_certificate
    Your question lacks details. It's like asking "What's worse: eating soup or a sandwich?".

    Depends on what's in the soup/sandwich, how often they are eaten, and the person's reason for eating them.

    In fact, it'd be rather close-minded of me to make a presumption with such little information.

    the question doesnt need details. it covers EVERYTHING.

    but again, you are trying really hard at self-ethering your whole belief system. you already know what this is about.. its not a secret and you are not dumb. so you tip-toeing around here is funny.
    Covering everything is precisely why I said it's too vague.

    I'm am not close-minded enough to presume I can make a determination regarding every possible scenario that fits the two premises you proposed.

    we all know you are a atheist.. and we all know you wont answer the question logically cuz you wont ether yourself..

    its not even logical to strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel.

    your whole belief system lacks open-mindedness AND logic.
    You seem to be making the incorrect assumption that I only believe what I "can see, touch, and feel" and that it somehow relates to me being an atheist.

    I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    dont be ridiculous. you cant see cells either with your naked eye.. cant see wifi either. so your ridiculousness is almost non-tolerable.
    It depends on the cell, they can be as large as an ostrich egg; which are definitely visible.

    And WiFi is a type of radio wave; which I already said I believe in, despite being unable to see them.
    ...I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    you believe wifi cuz you see with your own eyes the benefits of it.. so that example is null and void.

    same as cells.. because you can see them with your eye.. 1 way or another...

    which was the points that you clearly missed.
    You said "strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel"; WiFi and other radio waves do not fall under this category, yet I still believe in them.

    You're the one who brought up cells; I was just correcting your claim that they could not be seen with the naked eye, since it was not entirely true.
    your "technicality" is getting ridiculous. i rather not spell everything out and make the ABCs more complicated than they are.
    You came up what the question, not me.
    Premeer wrote: »
    believing something you cant see?

    or ONLY believing what you can see, touch, and feel?

    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    Perhaps you should've been more specific if you were referring to something other than what you wrote.

    perhaps, you should have answered the simple question with a simple answer.
    you so smart that you became dumb in the same breath.
    I did give you a simple answer.
    Neither.
    obviously, thats not a answer pertaining to the question.
    You may not like the answer, but it does answer your question.

    You can always ask a different question if you want a different answer. Just make sure it doesn't have the same flaw as the original question.

    you like playing dumb..

    we already went over what this is about... and why you wont answer the obvious question.. for verification, what forum room are we posting in.

    next time, dont play so dumb just to over-complicate a simple obvious question just to try to keep from blowing up your whole belief system.
    And I answered that as well:
    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    You may not have liked the answer, but it was an answer none-the-less.

    everything that you cant see touch and feel have obvious physical benefits that you KNOW.. so that clearly falls under the, see touch and feel... cuz its all physical... its in the world..

    you could also say, yea i dont see the wires in the wall, but i know theyre there.. yea obviously, cuz you see and feel the benefits at the flick of a switch.

    thats exactly your examples... love to play stupid just to dismiss a simple question from self-etherage.
  • Premeer
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    There's a saying: don't be so "open minded" that your brains fall out.
    hmmmm... $100 a atheist made this quote up.. and you know what that means... satan rules his mind.
  • Premeer
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    Ziryab wrote: »
    Atheists all got something in common I see lmao

    Yeah its called not believing in ?
    that, and a few other things. but we wont get into specifics.
  • Black Boy King
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    Ziryab wrote: »
    Atheists all got something in common I see lmao

    Yeah its called not believing in ?

    I've come to the conclusion that you haven't grasped the literary concept of reading in context
  • Gold_Certificate
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    Premeer wrote: »
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    Neither. As they are too vague to form an overall summary about how "open" or "closed" a person's mind is.
    great way to nullify the simple question. i see you proceeding with caution. trying to avoid ethering your whole self-belief system.

    but you already know the answer to the question. ill keep that between me and you.
    @gold_certificate
    Your question lacks details. It's like asking "What's worse: eating soup or a sandwich?".

    Depends on what's in the soup/sandwich, how often they are eaten, and the person's reason for eating them.

    In fact, it'd be rather close-minded of me to make a presumption with such little information.

    the question doesnt need details. it covers EVERYTHING.

    but again, you are trying really hard at self-ethering your whole belief system. you already know what this is about.. its not a secret and you are not dumb. so you tip-toeing around here is funny.
    Covering everything is precisely why I said it's too vague.

    I'm am not close-minded enough to presume I can make a determination regarding every possible scenario that fits the two premises you proposed.

    we all know you are a atheist.. and we all know you wont answer the question logically cuz you wont ether yourself..

    its not even logical to strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel.

    your whole belief system lacks open-mindedness AND logic.
    You seem to be making the incorrect assumption that I only believe what I "can see, touch, and feel" and that it somehow relates to me being an atheist.

    I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    dont be ridiculous. you cant see cells either with your naked eye.. cant see wifi either. so your ridiculousness is almost non-tolerable.
    It depends on the cell, they can be as large as an ostrich egg; which are definitely visible.

    And WiFi is a type of radio wave; which I already said I believe in, despite being unable to see them.
    ...I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    you believe wifi cuz you see with your own eyes the benefits of it.. so that example is null and void.

    same as cells.. because you can see them with your eye.. 1 way or another...

    which was the points that you clearly missed.
    You said "strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel"; WiFi and other radio waves do not fall under this category, yet I still believe in them.

    You're the one who brought up cells; I was just correcting your claim that they could not be seen with the naked eye, since it was not entirely true.
    your "technicality" is getting ridiculous. i rather not spell everything out and make the ABCs more complicated than they are.
    You came up what the question, not me.
    Premeer wrote: »
    believing something you cant see?

    or ONLY believing what you can see, touch, and feel?

    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    Perhaps you should've been more specific if you were referring to something other than what you wrote.

    perhaps, you should have answered the simple question with a simple answer.
    you so smart that you became dumb in the same breath.
    I did give you a simple answer.
    Neither.
    obviously, thats not a answer pertaining to the question.
    You may not like the answer, but it does answer your question.

    You can always ask a different question if you want a different answer. Just make sure it doesn't have the same flaw as the original question.

    you like playing dumb..

    we already went over what this is about... and why you wont answer the obvious question.. for verification, what forum room are we posting in.

    next time, dont play so dumb just to over-complicate a simple obvious question just to try to keep from blowing up your whole belief system.
    And I answered that as well:
    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    You may not have liked the answer, but it was an answer none-the-less.

    everything that you cant see touch and feel have obvious physical benefits that you KNOW.. so that clearly falls under the, see touch and feel... cuz its all physical... its in the world..

    you could also say, yea i dont see the wires in the wall, but i know theyre their.. yea obviously, cuz you see and feel the benefits at the flick of a switch.

    thats exactly your examples... love to play stupid just to dismiss a simple question from self-etherage.
    I can't "see, touch, and feel" a black hole, nor do I know of any "obvious physical benefits" that they have; I still believe they exist.

    Maybe you should've included the "and feel have obvious physical benefits" part in your original post, because that makes it a different question.
  • Premeer
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    atheists love to over-complicate common sense.. its why they are atheists.

    they think they are being smart because of it.. but it just shows how ignorant they are.
  • Premeer
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    Premeer wrote: »
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    Neither. As they are too vague to form an overall summary about how "open" or "closed" a person's mind is.
    great way to nullify the simple question. i see you proceeding with caution. trying to avoid ethering your whole self-belief system.

    but you already know the answer to the question. ill keep that between me and you.
    @gold_certificate
    Your question lacks details. It's like asking "What's worse: eating soup or a sandwich?".

    Depends on what's in the soup/sandwich, how often they are eaten, and the person's reason for eating them.

    In fact, it'd be rather close-minded of me to make a presumption with such little information.

    the question doesnt need details. it covers EVERYTHING.

    but again, you are trying really hard at self-ethering your whole belief system. you already know what this is about.. its not a secret and you are not dumb. so you tip-toeing around here is funny.
    Covering everything is precisely why I said it's too vague.

    I'm am not close-minded enough to presume I can make a determination regarding every possible scenario that fits the two premises you proposed.

    we all know you are a atheist.. and we all know you wont answer the question logically cuz you wont ether yourself..

    its not even logical to strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel.

    your whole belief system lacks open-mindedness AND logic.
    You seem to be making the incorrect assumption that I only believe what I "can see, touch, and feel" and that it somehow relates to me being an atheist.

    I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    dont be ridiculous. you cant see cells either with your naked eye.. cant see wifi either. so your ridiculousness is almost non-tolerable.
    It depends on the cell, they can be as large as an ostrich egg; which are definitely visible.

    And WiFi is a type of radio wave; which I already said I believe in, despite being unable to see them.
    ...I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    you believe wifi cuz you see with your own eyes the benefits of it.. so that example is null and void.

    same as cells.. because you can see them with your eye.. 1 way or another...

    which was the points that you clearly missed.
    You said "strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel"; WiFi and other radio waves do not fall under this category, yet I still believe in them.

    You're the one who brought up cells; I was just correcting your claim that they could not be seen with the naked eye, since it was not entirely true.
    your "technicality" is getting ridiculous. i rather not spell everything out and make the ABCs more complicated than they are.
    You came up what the question, not me.
    Premeer wrote: »
    believing something you cant see?

    or ONLY believing what you can see, touch, and feel?

    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    Perhaps you should've been more specific if you were referring to something other than what you wrote.

    perhaps, you should have answered the simple question with a simple answer.
    you so smart that you became dumb in the same breath.
    I did give you a simple answer.
    Neither.
    obviously, thats not a answer pertaining to the question.
    You may not like the answer, but it does answer your question.

    You can always ask a different question if you want a different answer. Just make sure it doesn't have the same flaw as the original question.

    you like playing dumb..

    we already went over what this is about... and why you wont answer the obvious question.. for verification, what forum room are we posting in.

    next time, dont play so dumb just to over-complicate a simple obvious question just to try to keep from blowing up your whole belief system.
    And I answered that as well:
    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    You may not have liked the answer, but it was an answer none-the-less.

    everything that you cant see touch and feel have obvious physical benefits that you KNOW.. so that clearly falls under the, see touch and feel... cuz its all physical... its in the world..

    you could also say, yea i dont see the wires in the wall, but i know theyre their.. yea obviously, cuz you see and feel the benefits at the flick of a switch.

    thats exactly your examples... love to play stupid just to dismiss a simple question from self-etherage.
    I can't "see, touch, and feel" a black hole, nor do I know of any "obvious physical benefits" that they have; I still believe they exist.

    Maybe you should've included the "and feel have obvious physical benefits" part in your original post, because that makes it a different question.

    again.. so smart that you became dumb.

    you think you are being smart by being so "technical".... but this is truly a showing of it backfiring.

    this whole performance is a adlib of your whole belief system. so smart that you are dumb.
  • Gold_Certificate
    Gold_Certificate Members Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Premeer wrote: »
    Premeer wrote: »
    Premeer wrote: »
    Premeer wrote: »
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    Neither. As they are too vague to form an overall summary about how "open" or "closed" a person's mind is.
    great way to nullify the simple question. i see you proceeding with caution. trying to avoid ethering your whole self-belief system.

    but you already know the answer to the question. ill keep that between me and you.
    @gold_certificate
    Your question lacks details. It's like asking "What's worse: eating soup or a sandwich?".

    Depends on what's in the soup/sandwich, how often they are eaten, and the person's reason for eating them.

    In fact, it'd be rather close-minded of me to make a presumption with such little information.

    the question doesnt need details. it covers EVERYTHING.

    but again, you are trying really hard at self-ethering your whole belief system. you already know what this is about.. its not a secret and you are not dumb. so you tip-toeing around here is funny.
    Covering everything is precisely why I said it's too vague.

    I'm am not close-minded enough to presume I can make a determination regarding every possible scenario that fits the two premises you proposed.

    we all know you are a atheist.. and we all know you wont answer the question logically cuz you wont ether yourself..

    its not even logical to strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel.

    your whole belief system lacks open-mindedness AND logic.
    You seem to be making the incorrect assumption that I only believe what I "can see, touch, and feel" and that it somehow relates to me being an atheist.

    I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    dont be ridiculous. you cant see cells either with your naked eye.. cant see wifi either. so your ridiculousness is almost non-tolerable.
    It depends on the cell, they can be as large as an ostrich egg; which are definitely visible.

    And WiFi is a type of radio wave; which I already said I believe in, despite being unable to see them.
    ...I can't "see, touch, and feel" radio waves, but I certainly believe they exist.

    you believe wifi cuz you see with your own eyes the benefits of it.. so that example is null and void.

    same as cells.. because you can see them with your eye.. 1 way or another...

    which was the points that you clearly missed.
    You said "strictly believe only what you can see, touch, and feel"; WiFi and other radio waves do not fall under this category, yet I still believe in them.

    You're the one who brought up cells; I was just correcting your claim that they could not be seen with the naked eye, since it was not entirely true.
    your "technicality" is getting ridiculous. i rather not spell everything out and make the ABCs more complicated than they are.
    You came up what the question, not me.
    Premeer wrote: »
    believing something you cant see?

    or ONLY believing what you can see, touch, and feel?

    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    Perhaps you should've been more specific if you were referring to something other than what you wrote.

    perhaps, you should have answered the simple question with a simple answer.
    you so smart that you became dumb in the same breath.
    I did give you a simple answer.
    Neither.
    obviously, thats not a answer pertaining to the question.
    You may not like the answer, but it does answer your question.

    You can always ask a different question if you want a different answer. Just make sure it doesn't have the same flaw as the original question.

    you like playing dumb..

    we already went over what this is about... and why you wont answer the obvious question.. for verification, what forum room are we posting in.

    next time, dont play so dumb just to over-complicate a simple obvious question just to try to keep from blowing up your whole belief system.
    And I answered that as well:
    I happen to believe in plenty of things that I can't "see, touch, and feel", despite being an atheist.

    You may not have liked the answer, but it was an answer none-the-less.

    everything that you cant see touch and feel have obvious physical benefits that you KNOW.. so that clearly falls under the, see touch and feel... cuz its all physical... its in the world..

    you could also say, yea i dont see the wires in the wall, but i know theyre their.. yea obviously, cuz you see and feel the benefits at the flick of a switch.

    thats exactly your examples... love to play stupid just to dismiss a simple question from self-etherage.
    I can't "see, touch, and feel" a black hole, nor do I know of any "obvious physical benefits" that they have; I still believe they exist.

    Maybe you should've included the "and feel have obvious physical benefits" part in your original post, because that makes it a different question.

    again.. so smart that you became dumb.

    you think you are being smart by being so "technical".... but this is truly a showing of it backfiring.

    this whole performance is a adlib of your whole belief system. so smart that you are dumb.
    Feel free to point out any mistakes or any incorrect statements I made, if you are able to.
  • Premeer
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    example of this conversation between me and gold certificate and how silly he looks.

    me: aye bruh, how you doin?

    gold: what? how am i doing? that question can be perceived in many different ways. please, be more specific. are you asking how is my physical being doing? are you asking how my mental state is doing? how am i feeling about my relationship with my girl? i need more specifics because this question can not be answered simply.

    me: what in the heck are you talking about..

    gold: don task me.. you asked me the question. im just saying. you will need to be more specific. that question covers a lot of ground. are you asking how i am in my work environment?

    me: ... get out my face. you sound dumb.

    gold: aye my man.. you asked the question.



    so smart you became dumb.
  • Ajackson17
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    Its quite clear there is no true or false answer to this because in my opinion its the difference between possibility with no proof which is faith and there is no right or wrong answer given to the information we currently possess. You are trying to support your agenda to say we are close minded. Its actually dishonest to be honest and distasteful
  • Premeer
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    Its quite clear there is no true or false answer to this because in my opinion its the difference between possibility with no proof which is faith and there is no right or wrong answer given to the information we currently possess. You are trying to support your agenda to say we are close minded. Its actually dishonest to be honest and distasteful

    negative. no "possibility" involved. its KNOWING.

    you dont even know what faith is but you want to sit up here and talk about ? like you know.

    further proving non-believers dont have a clue.
  • Ajackson17
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    So how do you know? So you never have doubts or stumble?
  • Ajackson17
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    And also you do not understand atheists as well.
  • Premeer
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    And also you do not understand atheists as well.
    oh i do.. i wouldnt be able to say what i say without understanding.
  • Premeer
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    So how do you know? So you never have doubts or stumble?

    doubts? never. its not a guess. its a fact.

    stumble? how? in life? of course. everybody does.
  • Sour-Cream
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    I'll take the red pill.
  • Sour-Cream
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    Then again, if Neo took the blue pill, he would have never died and the agents wouldn't have ? with him. Hmm decisions, decisions...
  • Bodhi
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    Ziryab wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    Ziryab wrote: »
    Atheists all got something in common I see lmao

    Yeah its called not believing in ?

    I've come to the conclusion that you haven't grasped the literary concept of reading in context

    I've come to the conclusion that you have your head stuck so far up your ass, you can't even recognize a joke.
  • zombie
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    I've come to the conclusion that many atheists and people who think they're atheists simply don't want to believe in ? .

    even if you gave them solid proof, ? come come down and shake their hands they would still not believe
  • Bodhi
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    I've come to the conclusion that zombie just likes to post so he can read his own ? .
  • Premeer
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    ive come to the conclusion that there are no real atheists.. just people who are in denial and talk themselves into "not believing" for their own personal reasons.
  • Bodhi
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    I've come to the conclusion premeer is below average intelligence
  • Bodhi
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    Rename this thread, "the official I've come to the conclusion thread"
  • zombie
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    I've come to the conclusion that the war against atheists will never stop. atheists and theists perception of reality is just to different.
  • zombie
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    I've come to the conclusion that talking to an atheist about ? is like talking to an alien about Shakespeare or politics.

    it's ultimately useless but fun none the less