who wins a foot race?

It's between the 2 flashes, nobody ? with a ? that can run through time, become tangible and make whirlwinds capable of taking down buildings with his hands.

GrandMasterSour wrote: »

My bad, Wally is faster.

There's been instances where Wally helped Barry out.

Nah Barry is faster and he has more speed force based powers than Wally too. Flash Rebirth sucked BTW. I wouldn't use that as a measure for anything.

Du_Du wrote: »

wally is that ? , i'm bout to buy all the new 52 flashes with my tax return....

unless....

yal know somewhere i can read them online....

It's a really good series. Best Flash ongoing in years. It will be tricky to get all the individual issues by this point though. You're better off buying the trades.

I always liked Barry's character better, dude is humble. Wally is way more arrogant.

Broddie wrote: »

GrandMasterSour wrote: »

Do you have evidence behind that statement? I mean Wally learned to time travel at 10 but I guess he has more control over his speed than Barry but Barry could also be faster with no control. Wally is older so that gives him more experience.

Barry Allen once ran so fast that you needed a new number to describe it because infinity wasn't enough. Barry Allen accomplished feats in the silver age that would make Wally West blush. Dude once outraced the speed of life. Barry Allen is able to phase through objects successfully unlike Wally (who always ends up botching his phases) because he's faster.

Let's not even get to what happened after they brought him back from the dead. Not only did he outrun the black racer (New Gods version of Death) with Wally but he also managed to cross different planes between life and death, mortals and gods before doing so which is how he came back in the first place. Hell they made it clear that Barry was still superior to Wally in speed when they made Barry himself the source of the speed force.

Old School DC stuff was so stupid. They took things too far sometimes, like with Superman sneezing and blowing away galaxies. Come on, really?

I guess it depends on your definition of well written. For me it kinda kills the whole story if you build up to a certain point and then resolve every thing with a ? asspull. But to be fair, the DEM that Marvel pulled with characters like Reed Richards and Dr. Strange was almost as bad. But I'd still take some crazy DEM from Marvel's top sorcerer over a character running so fast that infinity isn't big enough to describe the speed. Like what the hell does that even mean.

Lou Cypher wrote: »

Barry does.

? resets time he runs so fast. He runs to different universes hes so fast.

Other might have done that too but im not well educated on Wally.

Wally was the first Flash to go back in time without a cosmic treadmill. Multiple times too. Of course Barry proved to be able to do the same and more eventually when he returned.

Maximus Rex wrote: »

Du Du forgot



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They might not be faster than Barry, but "M," in "SHAZAM," represents the "Speed of Mercury."

Broddie wrote: »

That didn't stop the stories from being well written though. Some of the very best Superman and Flash stories are from the silver age and bronze age.

Broddie, you got to admit that Dc's multiverse is some straight ? and is one of the things that Marvel has over DC. I've never liked the concept of the mulitverse, ? as as wack as the Legion of Superpets.

The multiverse is actually a key reason why I am a DC guy and I was glad when the concept was brought back even though with Elseworlds it never really went away. Growing up I preferred pre-crisis to post-crisis for that reason and a lot of my favorite stories are also Elseworlds like Kingdom Come and The Dark Knight Returns. It gives way more freedom to the writers and leads to more interesting stories you can't otherwise tell with these great characters.

Like Earth 2 right now is one of my favorite books cause it's a world where anything is possible (Like Superman becoming a ? of Darkseid, Batman & Catwoman's daughter running around the New 52 multiverse, Mercury himself giving Jay Garrick his speed before dying instead of the standard chemical accident, Thomas Wayne becoming a more hardened Batman to honor Bruce's death etc.) as opposed to having to abide by editorial mandates with just one universe.

Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew >>>>>

Maximus Rex wrote: »

Du Du forgot



and



They might not be faster than Barry, but "M," in "SHAZAM," represents the "Speed of Mercury."

Broddie wrote: »

That didn't stop the stories from being well written though. Some of the very best Superman and Flash stories are from the silver age and bronze age.

Broddie, you got to admit that Dc's multiverse is some straight ? and is one of the things that Marvel has over DC. I've never liked the concept of the mulitverse, ? as as wack as the Legion of Superpets.

Marvel is a multiverse too and the eXiles was a comic that pretty much focused on a group jumping from universe to univers. It was actually one of the better books to come out of Marvel in a while.