No evidence of modern forgery in ancient text mentioning ‘Jesus’s wife’
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New scientific tests have turned up no evidence of modern forgery in a text written on ancient Egyptian papyrus that refers to Jesus as being married, according to a long-awaited article to be published Thursday in the Harvard Theological Review.
The findings support the argument of Harvard professor Karen L. King that the controversial text, the first-known explicit reference to a married Jesus, is almost certainly an authentic document.
The “Gospel of Jesus’s Wife” was introduced to the world by King at a conference in Rome 18 months ago. The announcement made headlines around the world, and many of King’s academic peers, as well as the Vatican newspaper, swiftly dismissed it as a fake.
King maintains the document was probably part of a debate among early Christians about the role of women, family, and celibacy in spiritual life.
The results of a carbon dating test found that the papyrus probably dates to eighth-
century Egypt, about 400 years later than King originally thought, but still in ancient times.
Other tests found the ink’s chemical composition consistent with carbon-based inks used by ancient Egyptians. And microscopic imaging revealed none of the suspicious ink pooling that critics thought they saw in lower-resolution photographs of the fragment. Such pooling could have offered evidence that the ink was applied in modern times.
“I’m basically hoping that we can move past the issue of forgery to questions about the significance of this fragment for the history of Christianity, for thinking about questions like, ‘Why does Jesus being married, or not, even matter? Why is it that people had such an incredible reaction to this?’ ” King said in an interview.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/04/10/new-tests-show-evidence-forgery-gospel-jesus-wife/IusII8b4eI86HgDTKipLhN/story.html
The findings support the argument of Harvard professor Karen L. King that the controversial text, the first-known explicit reference to a married Jesus, is almost certainly an authentic document.
The “Gospel of Jesus’s Wife” was introduced to the world by King at a conference in Rome 18 months ago. The announcement made headlines around the world, and many of King’s academic peers, as well as the Vatican newspaper, swiftly dismissed it as a fake.
King maintains the document was probably part of a debate among early Christians about the role of women, family, and celibacy in spiritual life.
The results of a carbon dating test found that the papyrus probably dates to eighth-
century Egypt, about 400 years later than King originally thought, but still in ancient times.
Other tests found the ink’s chemical composition consistent with carbon-based inks used by ancient Egyptians. And microscopic imaging revealed none of the suspicious ink pooling that critics thought they saw in lower-resolution photographs of the fragment. Such pooling could have offered evidence that the ink was applied in modern times.
“I’m basically hoping that we can move past the issue of forgery to questions about the significance of this fragment for the history of Christianity, for thinking about questions like, ‘Why does Jesus being married, or not, even matter? Why is it that people had such an incredible reaction to this?’ ” King said in an interview.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/04/10/new-tests-show-evidence-forgery-gospel-jesus-wife/IusII8b4eI86HgDTKipLhN/story.html
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So Jesus was ? ?!?!
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At some point Jesus asked what dat mouf do?
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Jesus' wife - I'm pregnant!
Jesus - *touches wife's stomach* you're not anymore
His magical powers stayed saving him. -
Yup. Mary magdalene. Thought yall knew. The Romans took a ton of stuff out of the bible... only reason we know these kinds of things on a mainstream level is becuase of Ethiopia and the dead sea scrolls.
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Jesus' lost years must have been his honeymoon
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Jesus turned the water into wine cuz he had to take a break from married life.
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I wish they never tampered with the bible and left all the books in. jesus having a wife makes him more human as in more personable. if the bible had all the books in it there would be a clearer picture. you can't solve a puzzle with missing pieces.
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im tryna find that spear of destiny, aka holy spear, aka holy lance, aka Lance of Longinus, and aka Spear of Longinus
where dat at? -
Yup. Mary magdalene. Thought yall knew. The Romans took a ton of stuff out of the bible... only reason we know these kinds of things on a mainstream level is becuase of Ethiopia and the dead sea scrolls.
Doesn't really matter, on a large scale.
People who have chosen not to believe this are not gonna believe it regardless of what evidence is put forth. They'll dismiss the ? , citing some obscure passage about a prophet predicting that the devil would pop up and try to sully the name of the lord.
People who believe it...will still believe it.
People who don't care (like me)...still won't care. -
Jesus being married and having martial intercourse would make him less than divine and more human
Christians and their elk ain't gonna like this... -
@Cain give us the eyewitness account bruh.
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YALL SOUND STUPID. .. HIM COURTIN FEMALES WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF HIM DYIN FOR OUR SINS
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mryounggun wrote: »Yup. Mary magdalene. Thought yall knew. The Romans took a ton of stuff out of the bible... only reason we know these kinds of things on a mainstream level is becuase of Ethiopia and the dead sea scrolls.
Doesn't really matter, on a large scale.
People who have chosen not to believe this are not gonna believe it regardless of what evidence is put forth. They'll dismiss the ? , citing some obscure passage about a prophet predicting that the devil would pop up and try to sully the name of the lord.
People who believe it...will still believe it.
People who don't care (like me)...still won't care.
Well.. maybe for you it doesn't matter, but in the context of christian history, there's been probably millions of monks and priests whom till this have lived a life of sexual abstinence and austere living to emulate the life of a man they thought they knew.
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Jesus being married and having martial intercourse would make him less than divine and more human
Christians and their elk ain't gonna like this...
Lol. ? said 'elk'. -
POE_LIL_DRO wrote: »YALL SOUND STUPID. .. HIM COURTIN FEMALES WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF HIM DYIN FOR OUR SINS
How so Dro?
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mryounggun wrote: »Yup. Mary magdalene. Thought yall knew. The Romans took a ton of stuff out of the bible... only reason we know these kinds of things on a mainstream level is becuase of Ethiopia and the dead sea scrolls.
Doesn't really matter, on a large scale.
People who have chosen not to believe this are not gonna believe it regardless of what evidence is put forth. They'll dismiss the ? , citing some obscure passage about a prophet predicting that the devil would pop up and try to sully the name of the lord.
People who believe it...will still believe it.
People who don't care (like me)...still won't care.
Well.. maybe for you it doesn't matter, but in the context of christian history, there's been probably millions of monks and priests whom till this have lived a life of sexual abstinence and austere living to emulate the life of a man they thought they knew.
That's their fault for not reading the scripts....
This information actually ties them all together
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POE_LIL_DRO wrote: »YALL SOUND STUPID. .. HIM COURTIN FEMALES WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF HIM DYIN FOR OUR SINS
so courting women getting married as nature intended is sin? didn't ? say go forth be fruitful and multiply? jesus married a woman is that so wrong? it's not like he was ? and molesting little boys *cough* catholic priest *cough. -
Oh look, another lame attempt to smear the name of Jesus. It's not like they haven't been doing this for the last 2,000 years.
:shaq face:
Don't even feel like posting the image on this garbage.
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POE_LIL_DRO wrote: »YALL SOUND STUPID. .. HIM COURTIN FEMALES WOULD DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF HIM DYIN FOR OUR SINS
It was ? who said to get married and make babies.
Jesus trying to spit game isn't sinful.
I don't know how it is.
He could remain sinless, sex isn't a sin. (biblical speaking; married sex)
But there's instances where sex has occurred in the bible that could be considered a "sin" that ? allowed, so stop bruh...
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I thought Yeshua was looked at as an Aramaic speaking Jew as well as a Rabbi ergo, would be expected to be married
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mryounggun wrote: »Yup. Mary magdalene. Thought yall knew. The Romans took a ton of stuff out of the bible... only reason we know these kinds of things on a mainstream level is becuase of Ethiopia and the dead sea scrolls.
Doesn't really matter, on a large scale.
People who have chosen not to believe this are not gonna believe it regardless of what evidence is put forth. They'll dismiss the ? , citing some obscure passage about a prophet predicting that the devil would pop up and try to sully the name of the lord.
People who believe it...will still believe it.
People who don't care (like me)...still won't care.
Well.. maybe for you it doesn't matter, but in the context of christian history, there's been probably millions of monks and priests whom till this have lived a life of sexual abstinence and austere living to emulate the life of a man they thought they knew.
Yeah, that's why I said 'on a large scale'. This isn't really gonna affect Christianity as a whole in any meaningful way. -
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mryounggun wrote: »mryounggun wrote: »Yup. Mary magdalene. Thought yall knew. The Romans took a ton of stuff out of the bible... only reason we know these kinds of things on a mainstream level is becuase of Ethiopia and the dead sea scrolls.
Doesn't really matter, on a large scale.
People who have chosen not to believe this are not gonna believe it regardless of what evidence is put forth. They'll dismiss the ? , citing some obscure passage about a prophet predicting that the devil would pop up and try to sully the name of the lord.
People who believe it...will still believe it.
People who don't care (like me)...still won't care.
Well.. maybe for you it doesn't matter, but in the context of christian history, there's been probably millions of monks and priests whom till this have lived a life of sexual abstinence and austere living to emulate the life of a man they thought they knew.
Yeah, that's why I said 'on a large scale'. This isn't really gonna affect Christianity as a whole in any meaningful way.
Outside of a sect or denomination either popping up or one that exists already gaining further notoriety for this plausible truth. -
"The results of a carbon dating test found that the papyrus probably dates to eighth-
century Egypt, about 400 years later than King originally thought, but still in ancient times."
This is self ether at it's finest. So they find a document saying that Jesus was married 800 years after HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD????????????????????
What kind of shenanigans is the dude trying to pull?
Folks will believe anything I tell you!
The whole of the New testament was finished before the end of the 1st century. The cannon of scripture closed in the 4th centruy. And here they have a document which comes 400 years later, even after the founding of Islam? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!
This is clown fish food.
Straight trash ? .