If Tim Duncan wins his 5th championship, is he the greatest player in the post-Jordan era?
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Magic is after Timmy. ? better look at Shaq's numbers. His rookie year is better than ? careers
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You could make a case for A.I.
He was just as nice as Kobe or better but he didn't play with Shaquille O ? Neal. Then Elgin Baylor also. Just look at his numbers. -
? , even David Robinson.
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Naw I changed my reason.
Kobe > Duncan
Even if he wins.
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PanchoYoSancho wrote: »I'm a Spurs fan and I've watched Timmy play his whole career, but Im not sure if Id call him top 5. To me Jordan, Magic, Dream and Kareem are ahead of him. And I know many will disagree, not like I give a ? , but I feel Lebron has already surpassed him. Russell and Wilt played in an era I knew nothing about, so I cant rank them.
The thing that hurts Tim is a lot of other guys' peaks (Shaq, Dream, Wilt, Kobe) were higher than his peak. The thing that helps him is he has been consistently great over a long period of time while others at the same stages of their careers either were role players or not even in the NBA.
I don't see how anyone doesn't have him in their top 10 tho.
Preach! When I see Duncan play, I'm like, "okay he's good, but he's basically a smart player in a great system." When I saw Shaq, Kobe, Magic etc. play, I was on some, "THIS DUDE CAN'T BE STOPPED!!!!.. DID YOU SEE THAT! HE'S ON HIS VIDEO GAME ? !!!" kind of mood.
Objectively, Duncan just doesn't compare. He got the numbers, but ? don't add up correctly if you know what I mean. He's that guy that surprises you every time his credentials get listed.
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Kareem, Russell, Jordan, Kobe, Magic
Shaq, Wilt, Bird, Dr. J, Isiah
Hakeem, Oscar etc.
I mean it's doable to not put Duncan in the top 10. There's nobody I listed that Duncan is for sure better than. -
How old are you ? ?
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Shizlansky wrote: »How old are you ? ?
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NothingButTheTruth wrote: »PanchoYoSancho wrote: »I'm a Spurs fan and I've watched Timmy play his whole career, but Im not sure if Id call him top 5. To me Jordan, Magic, Dream and Kareem are ahead of him. And I know many will disagree, not like I give a ? , but I feel Lebron has already surpassed him. Russell and Wilt played in an era I knew nothing about, so I cant rank them.
The thing that hurts Tim is a lot of other guys' peaks (Shaq, Dream, Wilt, Kobe) were higher than his peak. The thing that helps him is he has been consistently great over a long period of time while others at the same stages of their careers either were role players or not even in the NBA.
I don't see how anyone doesn't have him in their top 10 tho.
Preach! When I see Duncan play, I'm like, "okay he's good, but he's basically a smart player in a great system." When I saw Shaq, Kobe, Magic etc. play, I was on some, "THIS DUDE CAN'T BE STOPPED!!!!.. DID YOU SEE THAT! HE'S ON HIS VIDEO GAME ? !!!" kind of mood.
Objectively, Duncan just doesn't compare. He got the numbers, but ? don't add up correctly if you know what I mean. He's that guy that surprises you every time his credentials get listed.
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Kareem, Russell, Jordan, Kobe, Magic
Shaq, Wilt, Bird, Dr. J, Isiah
Hakeem, Oscar etc.
I mean it's doable to not put Duncan in the top 10. There's nobody I listed that Duncan is for sure better than.
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Without Tony P he would only have one ring. The argument can be made, but TP is why the Spurs won 4 more and why they lost last year. If Tony is too hurt it will be the reason they lose again.
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Raging Raven wrote: »Without Tony P he would only have one ring. The argument can be made, but TP is why the Spurs won 4 more and why they lost last year. If Tony is too hurt it will be the reason they lose again.
Playoff Averages (Championship Years)
2003 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2003.html
Duncan 22/11/3
Parker 18/2/7
Ginobili 13/5/3
2005 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2005.html
Duncan 23/12/2
Parker 17/2/4
Ginobili 20/5/4
2007 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2007.html
Duncan 22/11/3
Parker 20/3/5
Ginobili 16/5/3
Finley 11/2/1
Playoffs Last Year & This Year
2013
Duncan 18/10
Parker 20/3/7
Ginobili 11/3/5
Kawhi - 13/9
Green 11/4
2014
Duncan 16/8
Parker 17/2/4
Ginobili 14/3/41
Kawhi 13/6
Diaw 10/3/2
Green 9/3
Patty Mills and Korey Joseph can fill that void fine. Parker vanished half way through the 2013 Finals.
Why all this Timmy hate bruh!? -
Raging Raven wrote: »Without Tony P he would only have one ring. The argument can be made, but TP is why the Spurs won 4 more and why they lost last year. If Tony is too hurt it will be the reason they lose again.
You mean 3. He wasn't part of the 1999 team. -
Tony played like ? in the 05 Finals tho. Timmy and Manu carried that team offensively.
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? on point with the Kobe gifs today
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FlightKing wrote: »Raging Raven wrote: »Without Tony P he would only have one ring. The argument can be made, but TP is why the Spurs won 4 more and why they lost last year. If Tony is too hurt it will be the reason they lose again.
Playoff Averages (Championship Years)
2003 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2003.html
Duncan 22/11/3
Parker 18/2/7
Ginobili 13/5/3
2005 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2005.html
Duncan 23/12/2
Parker 17/2/4
Ginobili 20/5/4
2007 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2007.html
Duncan 22/11/3
Parker 20/3/5
Ginobili 16/5/3
Finley 11/2/1
Playoffs Last Year & This Year
2013
Duncan 18/10
Parker 20/3/7
Ginobili 11/3/5
Kawhi - 13/9
Green 11/4
2014
Duncan 16/8
Parker 17/2/4
Ginobili 14/3/41
Kawhi 13/6
Diaw 10/3/2
Green 9/3
Patty Mills and Korey Joseph can fill that void fine. Parker vanished half way through the 2013 Finals.
Why all this Timmy hate bruh!?
Parker and duncan played well for like a game each they both left alot to be desired ginobli was tragic -
playmaker88 wrote: »FlightKing wrote: »Raging Raven wrote: »Without Tony P he would only have one ring. The argument can be made, but TP is why the Spurs won 4 more and why they lost last year. If Tony is too hurt it will be the reason they lose again.
Playoff Averages (Championship Years)
2003 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2003.html
Duncan 22/11/3
Parker 18/2/7
Ginobili 13/5/3
2005 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2005.html
Duncan 23/12/2
Parker 17/2/4
Ginobili 20/5/4
2007 - http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2007.html
Duncan 22/11/3
Parker 20/3/5
Ginobili 16/5/3
Finley 11/2/1
Playoffs Last Year & This Year
2013
Duncan 18/10
Parker 20/3/7
Ginobili 11/3/5
Kawhi - 13/9
Green 11/4
2014
Duncan 16/8
Parker 17/2/4
Ginobili 14/3/41
Kawhi 13/6
Diaw 10/3/2
Green 9/3
Patty Mills and Korey Joseph can fill that void fine. Parker vanished half way through the 2013 Finals.
Why all this Timmy hate bruh!?
Parker and duncan played well for like a game each they both left alot to be desired ginobli was tragic
Last year was designed solely around Tony. He folded. Tim was consistently average last year. My post just demostrated that Tony wasn't the sole reason Tim was winning chips. Duncan was doing serious work for his rings. Now it's a balanced attack. -
He was hurt last year though
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been saying this
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playmaker88 wrote: »He was hurt last year though
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