Did Tony die in 'The Sopranos' finale? David Chase finally clears up the mystery

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"The Sopranos" has been celebrated for its ambiguous series finale, which left the fate of mob boss Tony Soprano unknown. But now creator David Chase has taken all of the mystery out of the revolutionary episode.

When Chase was asked if Tony's dead in an interview with Vox, he begrudgingly responded, "No. No he isn't." Other than mentioning that the infamous cut to black scene was inspired by Edgar Allen Poe's poem, "Dream Within a Dream," that's all the information Chase divulged about Tony's fate.

Though it must have been frustrating for Chase to only be asked this simple question rather than about many of the more interesting aspects of "The Sopranos" for years on end, we're glad he didn't go into more detail and wish he'd maintained his oath of silence completely. Ambiguity in television is OK and "The Sopranos" was the poster child for this type of destabilizing storytelling.

However, maybe some good will come of Chase's confession and David Lynch will be inspired to finally reveal exactly what happened to Cooper in "Twin Peaks."
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  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i been said he was dreaming....imma find my post.
  • Lou Cypher
    Lou Cypher Members Posts: 52,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I had always hoped they would surprise us with a movie or something years later. Cant happen without Gandolfini tho.

    So that scene was a dream or the entire damn show was a dream? im knocking the nurse behind me the ? out if the whole series was a dream.
  • atribecalledgabi
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    knew that ? lived
  • loch121
    loch121 Members Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I read another article where he said Tony died.Too lazy to find it or recap

    basically the whole season was leading up to Tony's death and there are a lot of clues.

    Tony got killed by The member's Only guy

    That's why the 1st ep was called members only

    Also there was a recurring theme of men dying in restaurants w/ their family

    Tony got popped in that restaurant
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    loch121 wrote: »
    I read another article where he said Tony died.Too lazy to find it or recap

    basically the whole season was leading up to Tony's death and there are a lot of clues.

    Tony got killed by The member's Only guy

    That's why the 1st ep was called members only

    Also there was a recurring theme of men dying in restaurants w/ their family

    Tony got popped in that restaurant

    maybe because he wasnt a member yet and the guy clipping him woke him up and back to reality.

    his dad was a made member but he wasnt yet.
  • loch121
    loch121 Members Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Now I'm ? because when Gandolfini died CNN said Tony died

    I never thought Tony died,but when they said it and others said it,I started researching

    I found enough evidence for me to change over to the Tony died team

    If Chase says he didn't he didn't,but now I'm confused
  • bignorm
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    I been said this. Up the old thread, lol. He himself said he didn't die very soon after the ep aired.
    That article about all the clues, was not ? he said, it was ? one of the fans wrote, and everyone attributed to him.
    He been said he didn't die, and if you look at it, it doesn't seem like he got popped.
  • disqus_6F6yUmrWOr
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    I said that ? back in the day, that whole scene with the guy in the restaurant was all symbolic that Tony will always have to look over his shoulder with Mob ? wanting to ? him, right before that Tony found out Carlo was going to testify against him which could lead to T losing his freedom-another thing he has to worry about for the rest of his life. With all of that he has his family surrounding him in the end shot, which is what this whole saga was all about, being a family man within the family.
  • nawledge_god
    nawledge_god Members Posts: 5,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    David Chase Is Trollin
  • bignorm
    bignorm Members Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    whats funny is that Chase has said this on record twice, but the fans who believed otherwise, can't accept it.
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He's trolling

    He died. Shot by the guy in the members only jacket. The first episode of season 6 was titles "Members Only". They guy in the members only jacket is also the same person that shot Silvio

    The screen going black, signified Tony being killed
  • TRILLip Brooks
    TRILLip Brooks Members Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shot signifies Tony's POV

    door22.jpg?w=450

    See's Carmela come in

    door3carm1.jpg?w=450

    Isn't paying attention to the guy in the members only jacket cause he's too busy looking at AJ

    396845296-387937.jpg?w=450&h=287

    Not Tony's pov but the camera focusing on him, knows he important to the scene

    396848229-216463.jpg?w=450&h=287

    Goes to the restroom behind Tony, so he won't see it coming

    396845548-078960.jpg?w=450&h=287

    Tony looks up

    sopbell5.jpg?w=450&h=337


    His pov is black, cause he was killed at close range and doesn't hear it

    door5-blank.jpg?w=450
  • bignorm
    bignorm Members Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    bignorm wrote: »
    whats funny is that Chase has said this on record twice, but the fans who believed otherwise, can't accept it.

  • TRILLip Brooks
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    Seeing how James Gandolfini died in real life, he's might feel uncomfortable and find it inappropriate to say he died
  • bignorm
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    but he said he didn't die within a month of the actual finale tho.........
  • bignorm
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    **turns on time machine**

    Here's a thread by @Willmunny back in the day, where I point it out.
    Someone back then, doubted me, and I linked the story that was written right after the finale,
    with Chase saying that.

    Thread. (page 2)
    http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/345774/yo-the-series-finale-of-the-sopranos-was-? -as-?
    link from thread (check the date on article)
    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/david-chase-reveals-truth-behind-sopranos-ending-article-1.231236
  • loch121
    loch121 Members Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    David responded to the VOX interview and says Tony being alive is inaccurate

    "A journalist for Vox misconstrued what David Chase said in their interview. To simply quote David as saying," Tony Soprano is not dead," is inaccurate. There is a much larger context for that statement and as such, it is not true. As David Chase has said numerous times on the record, "Whether Tony Soprano is alive or dead is not the point." To continue to search for this answer is fruitless. The final scene of The Sopranos raises a spiritual question that has no right or wrong answer.”

    Basically Chase is a ? and will never tell.Tony got killed IMO,but he says there's a higher spiritual message

    I meant to say alive and not dead and redited this
  • Will Munny
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    Tony dead as ? in my mind but really it was a cop out ending in case they wanted a sopranos movie later. Horrible ending.
  • nickel-us P
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    loch121 wrote: »
    I read another article where he said Tony died.Too lazy to find it or recap

    basically the whole season was leading up to Tony's death and there are a lot of clues.

    Tony got killed by The member's Only guy

    That's why the 1st ep was called members only

    Also there was a recurring theme of men dying in restaurants w/ their family

    Tony got popped in that restaurant

    The theme was basically, U dont hear or see it coming. They talk about it on that boat when he was on vacation. U didnt hear when their boy got shot in the restaraunt. The black screen was his pov.
  • TheManInBlack4.0
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    I don't care.

    I'm still going to pretend it's open to interpretation.
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    tony could have called ? from italy
  • bignorm
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    Chase backpedalling is just to be a ? now. But it don't refute that article I posted from after the finale, that he never refuted.
  • Cliff Da Mont
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    Rip Gandolfini
  • loch121
    loch121 Members Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Smokey Tha Bandit‌ Do your resaearch before you nosign me.There are videos and thorough examinations of what happened.