Spinoff: Why are dudes so threatened / disgusted by females with "high" body counts?

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  • deadeye
    deadeye Members Posts: 22,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Westie wrote: »
    deadeye wrote: »
    Westie wrote: »
    deadeye wrote: »
    deadeye wrote: »
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    And as far as the car analogy, IM not gon play stupid, I see where you coming from. but me personally having had my last 2 cars be used I could give a ? less who the owners were or how many, I bought them ? off the strength of their current condition and an ideal of how reliable they would be from then on.


    Would you pay for them what you would expect to pay for a new car?


    That was the main point.


    No man in his right mind wants to wife a chick with a high body count.


    Smash maybe, but not wife.
    Look man when you in my situation 30 and still in the field looking for a piece of strange you gon take what you can get not to mention that in your 30s the mileage gon add up for everybody whether she ? the same dude or one here and one there.
    To each his own you want you a grown ass ? by all means wait on it with my blessings

    A "piece of strange" is understandable.....but not for relationship material.


    And I am currently focusing on a grown ass ? .


    She's in nursing school and her studies occupy most of her time.


    Her chastity is very important to her, so....as a compromise....I'm content as long as she gives me a ? every once in a while until she's ready to lose her virginity.
    So you're abstaining from ? right? What's your body count?



    I'm satisfied as long as she jerks me off whenever I get too backed up.

    Why do I ever ask you anything...


    You must not have realized which one of my posts you were quoting when you asked that question.


    That was an honest answer within the context of the post you quoted.
  • BEAM
    BEAM Members Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    zombie wrote: »
    if mom is a ? chances are you are going to end up with a whole bunch of half brothers and sisters who will live in the same house as you do. chances are you are going to be exposed to a whole bunch of different men and for a growing child looking for father figures this is a recipe for trouble. men who sleep with ? typically don't care about them or their children because he is just there for ? and might hurt her children

    if dad is a ? his outside children won't be living with you , so the child does not have that stress and the women dad brings around typical do care about him and won't hurt his child. often these women don't know the man is a ? because promiscuous men often hide this fact. men who are ? present themselves as not being one or at least it's harder to identify a man as a ? .

    but when a girl is a ? often there are clear cut signs

    "Chances are?" What chances?
    Everything you're saying is either purely anecdotal, skewed dramatically, or fabricated completely.

    The multitude of single parent households devoid of fathers are no better than the one woman ? houses you're having to reach for to form some semblance of a point.

    Do some research and you'll see exactly why you're blinded by bias and emotion.
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BEAM wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    What feelings are you talking about?? it's not the adult male or female i am concerned about in my argument it's the children and the effects that having ? for parents will have on them mother or father sleeping around is wrong and has bad effects for the children, my argument is that because of the way biology/psychology is set up that ? mothers do more damage to their children.

    The bolded is false.
    These are the feelings I'm talking about.

    it's not false and even if it was my statement has nothing to do with the emotions of men the way you are painting it to escape my argument that you have no answer for.

  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2014
    BEAM wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    if mom is a ? chances are you are going to end up with a whole bunch of half brothers and sisters who will live in the same house as you do. chances are you are going to be exposed to a whole bunch of different men and for a growing child looking for father figures this is a recipe for trouble. men who sleep with ? typically don't care about them or their children because he is just there for ? and might hurt her children

    if dad is a ? his outside children won't be living with you , so the child does not have that stress and the women dad brings around typical do care about him and won't hurt his child. often these women don't know the man is a ? because promiscuous men often hide this fact. men who are ? present themselves as not being one or at least it's harder to identify a man as a ? .

    but when a girl is a ? often there are clear cut signs

    "Chances are?" What chances?
    Everything you're saying is either purely anecdotal, skewed dramatically, or fabricated completely.

    The multitude of single parent households devoid of fathers are no better than the one woman ? houses you're having to reach for to form some semblance of a point.

    Do some research and you'll see exactly why you're blinded by bias and emotion.

    every situation is different so probability is a factor and the probability of a child being ? up because of ? parents is high, or at least the child won't grow up as safe as it should be with his/her mother changing boyfriends every two months and It's no reach there are many many ? mothers all across this nation.

    a singel parent house without ? parents would clearly be better because there would be less potentially negative influences around the child.

    i am not taking about me i am not focused on the male i am talking about the children how can their be bias if i am not a factor at all? you are just ducking the problems i present with slutdom for mothers.
  • BEAM
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    zombie wrote: »
    every situation is different so probability is a factor and the probability of a child being ? up because of ? parents is high, and It's no reach there are many many ? mothers all across this nation.

    a singel parent house without ? parents would clearly be better because there would be less potentially negative influences around the child.

    i am not taking about me i am not focused on the male i am talking about the children how can their be bias if i am not a factor at all? you are just ducking the problems i present with slutdom for mothers.

    Why don't you do some research, then we can talk.

    Yes, ? parents are bad; But ? mothers aren't worse than ? fathers, and neither are the supposed households then run. I'm willing to bet that you've got zero evidence that isn't complimented by studies that prove the same is true for ? fathers, to suggest otherwise. There are also single fathers and breadwinning, cheating mothers; Factor that in too.

    Your love for the kids is admirable, but your reasoning simply isn't supported by comprehensive studies, only isolated ones, if any at all..
  • zombie
    zombie Members Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2014
    BEAM wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    every situation is different so probability is a factor and the probability of a child being ? up because of ? parents is high, and It's no reach there are many many ? mothers all across this nation.

    a singel parent house without ? parents would clearly be better because there would be less potentially negative influences around the child.

    i am not taking about me i am not focused on the male i am talking about the children how can their be bias if i am not a factor at all? you are just ducking the problems i present with slutdom for mothers.

    Why don't you do some research, then we can talk.

    Yes, ? parents are bad; But ? mothers aren't worse than ? fathers, and neither are the supposed households then run. I'm willing to bet that you've got zero evidence that isn't complimented by studies that prove the same is true for ? fathers, to suggest otherwise. There are also single fathers and breadwinning, cheating mothers; Factor that in too.

    Your love for the kids is admirable, but your reasoning simply isn't supported by comprehensive studies, only isolated ones, if any at all..

    exactly why would anyone do research on something that is so clear, i can look around in the world today and see the effects of having a father who sleeps around vs a mother

    father's who sleep around don't have households with 4 children with different mothers, the children usually live with mom. and singel father make more money at least according to pew

    mother's who sleep around however do often have 4 children with different men and all the children live in the same house thus putting a financial burden on the household. and single mothers make less money

  • T. Sanford
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  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Westie wrote: »
    Cars and people are a little bit different tho
    lol

    Not in this case. Whether your buying a car or settling in a relationship, you want to know you're getting quality for your investment. I'm not saying that a chick with a mileage can't be a quality. She might, just like a well maintained car with a lot of mileage may still be a good buy depending on the circumstances. It still something to be wary of.

    Cars are PROPERTY. You pay money for them. They are machines you work until they're outdated. Their only purpose is to take you from one destination to the next. Yes, a lot of yall equate that to women but of you do you're a mysogynist.

    *waits*

    I don't think a lot of the people on this site understand how comparisons and analogies work. So when you took a standardized test like the SATand saw something like Strawberry is to Red as School Bus is to ______, did you suddenly think "That doesn't make any sense because I can eat a strawberry but I can't eat a school bus."

    Nowhere did I say that women are property like cars. That wasn't the analogous point. The analogous point was that both entering into a relationship with a woman and buying a car can be long term commitments. And in both cases, before to you there and invest whatever is necessary to start that commitment off, you want to know that what you're getting is worth it. From that standpoint, mileage on a car or a woman could and should give a guy the same trepidation. The stuff you're bringing up is irrelevant.
    BEAM wrote: »
    The same consideration should be taken with men, is the point. That's why the analogy does not work, because it attempts to villainize one sex for doing what the other does casually.

    Where did I even argue against that point? The question of the topic is why dudes are disgusted by women with a high body count. My comment addressed that question. Nowhere did I say only guys have the right to be like that. Women should be just as disgusted by dudes that go around ? any and everything.
  • LUClEN
    LUClEN Members Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BEAM wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    Psychology and biology hold testosterone to be the primary factor in determining desire for sex, of which men still have much more than women, generally speaking. However it goes deeper than this as there have been efforts to find men who have never consumed Pornography to participate in studies and they cannot find them, as they don't seem to exist. The female counterpart does.

    Add in a higher propensity for infidelity, a higher rate of sex crime conviction, and even higher rates of sex and porn addiction, and there is an obvious trend.

    Women that rival men in sexual desire are not that uncommon, but are much more the exception than the rule.

    Not that any of that negates their sexual freedom, but the comparison does not look quite the way you portray it

    Men watch porn, women read erotica. Both crave sex, just in different ways via different outlets. Erotica addition and the subsequent effects on marriage is also becoming much more prevalent.

    The higher rate of infidelity in men is due to the structure of relationships themselves; More recent studies have begun to take note of this fact. Men have always been more able to cheat because they leave the house for work. Now that women are competing in the workforce, their infidelity rates have skyrocketed. Higher rates of sex crime conviction are a combination of our being stronger physically, and women not needing to try so hard to get sex societally.

    Women that are openly and discoverable as desirous of sex as men are becoming more and more common with each study, because times are changing. They've been an exception because our society has always looked down on that kind of behavior from women.

    See, what you're not realizing is that the studies you're depending on to make your case are antiquated, lack comprehension, and are essentially obsolete. Studies expire, and so do the societies they're based on.

    The concept that testosterone boosts libido is not obsolete. In fact one of the most noticeable things for the transgendered is an increase in sexual desire when going from woman to man, and a decrease when changing from man to woman.

    Even though they are becoming more prevalent they still do not mirror men.

  • count  remy
    count remy Members Posts: 392 ✭✭✭✭
    This is still going on? I'm waiting for proof that men are threatened or disgusted by high body counts. There's a song in louisiana that you may have heard. One line of it goes "oh how I want to be in that number..." That about sums up how men feel about high body count females....
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    count remy wrote: »
    This is still going on? I'm waiting for proof that men are threatened or disgusted by high body counts. There's a song in louisiana that you may have heard. One line of it goes "oh how I want to be in that number..." That about sums up how men feel about high body count females....

    Come on son, I don't know where you from, but ain't nobody jumping at the chance to wife a chick that's got 30 bodies on her list. You're right most ? don't care how many she has when they are just trying to get some, but I'm guessing the topic isn't referring to that.
  • LUClEN
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    Westie wrote: »
    Trashboat wrote: »
    BEAM wrote: »
    Women want to ? just as much as men, but our societal programming shrouds that truth.

    That seems false

    The idea that women Seldom want sex is an exaggeration, but responding to it with a notion that the average woman has the same desire for sex as the average man is unsupported by our knowledge of biology, psychology and history

    Society plays a role in that as well. Desire is shaped by a lot of things, not just biology.

    It does but I didn't want to mention sociology because the findings are not as convincing as other disciplines. AFAIK women still aren't on per with men as far as sexual desire goes.
  • BarreGoff
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    no one wants a car with too many miles on it