Video: Pasco, Wash. pigs shoot & ? suspect accused of throwing rocks while his running away...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-0uqFTBclo

? gets really real at the :14 second mark...

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  • BoogaSuga
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    Thats ? but who throws rocks at people with guns?
  • Shizlansky
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    Called it years ago.

    White ppl is turning on cops more and more.

    They ? up their biggest fan base and they will lose sooner then later.
  • riddlerap
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    fight a cop.. you ? up.
  • D. Morgan
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Called it years ago.

    White ppl is turning on cops more and more.

    They ? up their biggest fan base and they will lose sooner then later.

    Truthfully though that is the only way cops will see the ? they doing as wrong when the people who look like them start complaining cause they getting ? and killed.

    Cause as long as it just mainly black people who getting killed and ? up by the police nobody is really going to care or really look to make changes in the way police operate.

    Black people are looked at by the media who shape the minds of country through lies as natural born criminals and bad people. So black people don't get the benefit of the doubt when comes down police misconduct.

    White people on the other hand are looked as good people and non-threating so when the police start doing ? to them like they do to black people. They are going to get the benefit of doubt and the police will be held accountable.

    Just a small part of the the police being held accountable will trickle down to black people.

    Need some rich/wealthy white people to get ? up or killed before the police really get their ? handed to them though.

  • Will Munny
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    So they shot at him while he was running away, and then he tried some more ? ? He must have been on drugs.

  • Meta_Conscious
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    they just started busting in broad day light with mad civilians around... the didn't hit him the first time so what did they hit?
    amazing...
  • p-tavern
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    BoogaSuga wrote: »
    Thats ? but who throws rocks at people with guns?

    We used to throw railroad rocks and bottles at them when we were young, but we had it set up where they wouldn't have been able to shoot us. shrug.gif
    None of it was out on an open street like this idiot.
  • stringer bell
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    nwpr.org/post/pasco-police-chief-trust-us-angry-demonstrators-gather-after-shooting
    Pasco Police Chief: “Trust Us,” Angry Demonstrators Gather After Shooting

    Tuesday night’s shooting of a man near a popular grocery store by three Pasco police officers has angered many residents there. The shooting was captured in several phone videos now on YouTube. A protest was held outside of Pasco City Hall Wednesday night.

    Toddlers, teens, parents and grandparents were all there to protest Tuesday’s police shooting. At first, the grim-faced crowd stood well back from the city hall’s double doors. But then they pressed in close to the threshold.

    Police officers were inside.

    The person killed Tuesday is identified by his family as Antonio Zambrano-Montes. Pasco police say he was throwing rocks at officers, and struck an officer with one.

    Several bystander videos show three police officers chasing after him across a crowded intersection and then shooting him at near range.

    This all happened in old-town Pasco near a popular big-box Mexican grocery store. Down the street a bit are Mexican dress shops, bakeries and taquerias. Migrant farm workers came to southeast Washington, stayed, bought houses and set up businesses here.

    Antonio Zambrano-Montes died in old-town Pasco on the sidewalk.

    His cousin is Maria Madrigal. She says Zambrano-Montes was a small-statured man. And she asks even if he had a rock, how come the police couldn’t tackle him or taze him?

    “I’m 5’3, so I would say he’s a little bit shorter than me," Madrigal says. "I would probably say 5’1 or 5. He was a short guy, a small guy. I probably could have probably took him down. I probably could have took him down. But, it’s still in a way hard to believe. Seeing his name announced, that it was for sure him. Cause even last night they wouldn’t let my mom identify the body at least. ‘Cause we had a really strong feeling that it was him.”

    Madrigal did say her cousin had fallen on tough times lately. He’d been working hard at odd jobs, his wife had recently left him and taken their two daughters to California. Madrigal said that when she would cut his hair, he wouldn’t talk to her the way he used to.

    Madrigal says she’s upset her cousin’s body laid in the street overnight.

    “I don’t understand why they couldn’t remove the body," Madrigal says. "They could still continue investigation without the body. To me it’s like just leaving a dead animal out there.”

    For their part, Pasco police aren’t saying if they found a gun or weapons at the scene. They say three investigations have to take place before they will be saying much more about the case.

    The Tri-City Special Investigation Unit is looking into the matter. The Washington State Patrol Crime lab is involved. And an internal investigation by the Pasco police is also underway. Pasco Police Chief Bob Metzger says he’s grieving with the town.

    “I would ask the people trust us because certainly over the last 20 years with community policing, we’ve been very much involved in our community," Metzger says. "And I would hope that they have enough trust in us to know that we’re going to do the right thing for our community because we all care about this community a great deal.”

    The three officers involved are on paid administrative leave until these investigations conclude. Outside, several protesters told me that they believe the police in Pasco haven’t served the community fairly in the past.

    Thirty-five-year-old Junior Valencia of Kennewick told me, “This can not happen, this can not happen.”

    “People are tired of it, people are tired of it, and this shows today that we are tired of it," Valencia says. "It’s not a color, it’s not a race, it’s not about anything else. It’s about we’re all humans. We need to understand that we need to fight for our rights as community, as a people.”

    News and talk of the shooting is jamming Spanish language radio stations, Twitter and Facebook. Zambrano-Montes’ family is considering a lawsuit and protesters are talking of further marches and vigils into the weekend.
  • stringer bell
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  • mryounggun
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    Regular Thursday.
  • R0mp
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    It'll be interesting to see how far the what's a normal response line goes in the name of officer safety. We all know that turning around and even motioning that you will throw something, let alone actually throwing something, will not get you wrestled to the ground or tazed; it will get you perforated.
  • Meta_Conscious
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    lol@them using the community policing line...
  • DarcSkies
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    Clearly deadly force was not necessary. There is no excuse for this. And even in knowing this and eventhough it's on video we all know they'll walk.

  • Meta_Conscious
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    DarcSkies wrote: »
    Clearly deadly force was not necessary. There is no excuse for this. And even in knowing this and eventhough it's on video we all know they'll walk.

    maybe if u walked a mile in their shoes...lol... you would understand how dangerous... lol... rocks are...lol... to 3 grown men...lol...
  • Maximus Rex
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    you would understand how dangerous... lol... rocks are...lol... to 3 grown men...lol...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW8sXQ4kbMA
    

    Spartacus | Episode 2 Scene Clip "The Stoning" | STARZ

    @ :53 you'll see how dangerous rocks are.

    It's too bad that potna got popped, but at the end of the day dude was an illegal. If the government was about trying to jail and deport these mutafuckas, then dude would probably be alive. I can't feel any sympathy for a person who was killed by the police and the muthafucka wasn't even supposed to be in America. Until other people prove that their down for the betterment and improving the quality of life of black people in America, we have to stop letting others co-op our movements.
  • Shizlansky
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    This ain't about him

    This is about ? the police.
  • Meta_Conscious
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    you would understand how dangerous... lol... rocks are...lol... to 3 grown men...lol...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW8sXQ4kbMA
    

    Spartacus | Episode 2 Scene Clip "The Stoning" | STARZ

    @ :53 you'll see how dangerous rocks are.

    It's too bad that potna got popped, but at the end of the day dude was an illegal. If the government was about trying to jail and deport these mutafuckas, then dude would probably be alive. I can't feel any sympathy for a person who was killed by the police and the muthafucka wasn't even supposed to be in America. Until other people prove that their down for the betterment and improving the quality of life of black people in America, we have to stop letting others co-op our movements.

    you're a dangerous idiot.
  • Trillfate
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    0:18

    "he reached for his waistband" - cops
  • stringer bell
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    edited September 2015
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/09/us-usa-police-washington-idUSKCN0R92MU20150909
    Washington state patrolmen will not face criminal charges in Mexican farmworker's slaying: lawyer

    Three police officers in Washington state will not face criminal charges in the February shooting death of an unarmed Mexican farmworker who threw rocks at them before fleeing arrest, a lawyer representing the victim's family said on Wednesday.

    Antonio Zambrano-Montes was killed in the southeastern farming city of Pasco in an incident captured on video that sparked outrage in a majority Latino community that has likened his death to police slayings of unarmed black men in Missouri and New York.

    "The wife and children of Antonio Zambrano are extremely disappointed with the decision by Franklin County Prosecutor Shawn Sant not to charge the three City of (Pasco) Police Officers with any crime in the execution of their loved one Antonio Zambrano," attorney George Trejo said in a statement.

    The shooting, which occurred at a busy intersection after the 35-year-old threw rocks at the officers, triggered protests by demonstrators who complain Pasco police were too quick to use lethal force in their fourth slaying in seven months, and fueled a national critique on police use-of-force against minorities.

    Franklin County Prosecuting Attorney Shawn Sant was due to hold a news conference at 2 p.m. to announce whether he would bring criminal charges against the officers. Sant did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    "(Sant's) claim that there is insufficient evidence to establish any crime beyond a reasonable doubt is a pretext for his decision to protect law enforcement from the very beginning of this case," Trejo said. "We are not surprised by this decision but disgusted and disappointed."


    Smh...
  • stringer bell
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    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/09/pasco-police-no-charges-antonio-zambrano-montes
    Police will not face charges in Pasco shooting death of Mexican man

    Three police officers in Washington state who shot and killed a Mexican man earlier this year during a controversial encounter that was captured on cellphone video will not face criminal charges.

    Franklin County prosecutor Shawn Sant decided Pasco police officers Ryan Flanagan, Adam Wright and Adrian Alaniz should not be prosecuted for the death of Antonio Zambrano-Montes on 10 February, attorneys for his parents told the Guardian.

    Attorney Jose Baez said Zambrano-Montes’s family was “sorely disappointed” and “sharply disagrees” with the decision.
    “This forces us to seek justice for Antonio and his family in a different forum, one of the family’s choosing, not in the police home court. Shortly, we will be filing a federal civil rights lawsuit on behalf of the proper plaintiffs,” Baez said in a statement.
    Sant confirmed the decision at a press conference on Wednesday afternoon after considering the findings of a police investigation into the shooting for more than three months. He said Zambrano-Montes was fatally shot for turning towards police with a 2.8lb rock in his hand after repeatedly throwing other rocks at police and cars.
    “The officers used lethal force to prevent injury to themselves and others,” said Sant, who described the shooting as “reasonable under the standards established in our state laws” and lacking in malice.

    During a chaotic announcement, the prosecutor was heckled by several furious supporters of Zambrano-Montes’s family, who demanded that he resign, accused him of having “blood on his hands” and shouted: “No justice, no peace.”
    Dismissing allegations that Zambrano-Montes was shot in the back, Sant said three autopsies found that the fatal shot entered his body from the side, apparently as he turned towards the officers. Police fired a total of 17 shots, he said.

    The prosecutor said witnesses recounted that Zambrano-Montes was “hysterical and screaming” and repeatedly told police officers to ? him. A toxicology report found extremely high levels of methamphetamine in his blood, he added. Officers tried to shock him with a Taser and shot him in an arm before the final encounter.

    Police had been dispatched to deal with reports that Zambrano-Montes was throwing the rocks at cars. A motorist recorded video of his encounter with police. The footage showed officers chasing Zambrano-Montes as he ran away from them and between traffic. As he turned back towards officers with a rock in his hand, officers opened fire until he collapsed.

    Sant said on Wednesday he “recognised the concern” about what was shown in the video footage, which led to peaceful protests in Pasco.

    Hundreds of pages of files from the investigation of the shooting were released in July. Among the most startling findings included the fact that none of the officers involved were interviewed about the incident until nearly three months later.

    When investigators asked one officer, Flanagan, why he pursued Zambrano-Montes and was prepared to use deadly force, he replied: “I wasn’t chasing him down to shoot and ? him. But he wasn’t going to get away, either.”

    The investigator asked why, with “three officers, one suspect and … one rock”, Flanagan feared for his life and the safety of others. Flanagan replied: “Well, one rock can ? you.” The officer resigned from the department in June for what the city’s police chief described as unrelated reasons.

    Despite Wednesday’s decision, it is still possible that the case could end up before a jury. Franklin County coroner Dan Blasdel has said repeatedly that he intends to hold an inquest into the death. “A jury needs to make the decision whether the shooting was justified or not,” he told the local NBC affiliate in an interview.

    In Franklin County, the coroner does have the authority to impanel a jury to determine a cause of death. But because the cause of death, homicide, is not in question, Sant has questioned the rationale of an inquest. “The purpose of an inquest is not to find who is necessarily responsible for the death or who should be charged it’s to figure out how the person died,” he told KVEW.
  • stringer bell
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    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/prosecutor-to-announce-his-charging-decision/
    Prosecutor: No charges for Pasco officers who fatally shot rock-throwing immigrant

    Criminal charges will not be filed against three Pasco police officers who fatally shot a rock-throwing Mexican man in February.

    PASCO — Three Pasco police officers who fatally shot a rock-throwing Mexican immigrant in February will not face criminal charges, a prosecutor announced Wednesday, saying there was no evidence the officers acted with malice.

    The death of Antonio Zambrano-Montes, 35, was captured on cellphone video and sparked months of protests in Pasco, an agricultural center in Eastern Washington. Witnesses said Zambrano-Montes fought with an officer, threw rocks and repeatedly told officers to ? him before they opened fire.

    At a news conference repeatedly interrupted by protesters Wednesday, Franklin County Prosecutor Shawn Sant said the evidence showed that the officers used legal force as they tried to arrest a man who had assaulted them and was threatening to attack them further.

    Sant said he could not meet the high bar for criminal prosecution under Washington state law, which requires a showing that the officers acted with malice and without good faith that their actions were justified.

    “The officers used legal force to prevent injuries to themselves and others,” the prosecutor said. “Certainly there is no evidence of malice.”

    The shooting occurred Feb. 10 in a busy intersection, as Zambrano-Montes, high on ? , threw rocks at police. They tried unsuccessfully to subdue him with a stun gun, then, after he threw a rock at an officer’s head, Officer Adam Wright shot, striking him in the arm, Sant said. The three officers then chased him across a street.

    Video of the shooting showed the officers following Zambrano-Montes, then firing a second volley of shots as he turned to face them. Wright told investigators the man was transferring a rock from his left hand to his right, apparently preparing to throw again.

    At least one video shows movements consistent with that description, and investigators said a rock weighing nearly 3 pounds was found near Zambrano-Montes’ body.

    The shooting helped fuel a national debate over police use of force after several high-profile killings by police, including those of 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters expressed outrage that the officers had fired 17 times in a busy intersection in an effort to stop a man who was armed only with a rock, and who appeared to be suicidal and under the influence of drugs.

    The Pasco Police Department said Wednesday it has nearly completed an internal review of the shooting, which prompted it to increase crisis-intervention training for its officers, launch efforts to recruit more Spanish-speaking officers and improve its communication with the local Hispanic community.

    Zambrano-Montes was an out-of-work orchard worker who was in the country illegally and who had had several run-ins with police. In one case, he cut his forehead with a knife and asked officers to ? him. In another, just weeks before his death, Wright — the same officer who shot him — dragged him away from a fire at his small rental home.

    Gov. Jay Inslee immediately asked Attorney General Bob Ferguson to review the charging decision, saying he would have wanted the decision reviewed whichever way it went.

    “I want to ensure that people have confidence and trust in the decision that is made in this case,” Inslee wrote in a letter to the attorney general. “It is critical that, in the wake of this tragic incident, the communities and leaders of the city of Pasco and Franklin County come together and continue their healing.”

    George Trejo Jr., a lawyer for Zambrano-Montes’ wife and children, said in an email that he was disappointed with the prosecutor. This month, Trejo filed a federal civil-rights lawsuit against the city and the three officers involved.

    “His claim that there is insufficient evidence to establish any crime beyond a reasonable doubt is a pretext for his decision to protect law enforcement from the very beginning of this case,” Trejo wrote. “We are not surprised by this decision but disgusted and disappointed. This is precisely the reason why we continually asked for an independent criminal investigation.”


    The sentiment was echoed by the state Commission on Hispanic Affairs, which said it was concerned about the “dismissive nature” of the police and prosecutor in regard to the case. Protesters at the news conference chanted “whitewash” and “this blood is on your hands”; the prosecutor answered several questions from them after making his announcement.

    “They’re saying it’s OK for the police to murder people,” one protester, Jeremy Peterson, said afterward.


    One of the officers, Ryan Flanagan, has resigned to take another job in a move his lawyer said was unrelated to the shooting. The two others, Wright and Adrian Alaniz, remain on paid leave.