Why when we Talk about Cube we rarely bring up.................

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  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    thoughts on this album????
    very good album, but requires me to listen to too much Mack 10

    *listens to solo Ice Cube/WC albums instead*

  • J.J._Evans
    J.J._Evans Members Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........

  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    Two classics in one post. Quoted and GOATED.
  • J.J._Evans
    J.J._Evans Members Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    Two classics in one post. Quoted and GOATED.

    That Johnny Cash song is some 'straight pour out a little liquor' type ? . I actually like it.
  • Rampage12
    Rampage12 Members Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version
  • J.J._Evans
    J.J._Evans Members Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"
  • trilladelic
    trilladelic Members Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i had a pretty well made bootleg tee of the album cover..
  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    The album pretty much set fire on New York magazine critics with any bias against West Coast Hip Hop, i.e. The Source especially because back then(before the Benzino/Eminem beef) they had a certain standard on music tastes to determine whether an album was deemed classic or not.

    With biases all aside though, they actually got 4.5 mics for that album...not only East Coast publications got lit up, but DJs that wasn't showing love to West Coast Hip Hop in the clubs, those MCs who had an uppity attitude(the scene in "Straight Outta Compton" when those NY rappers were trying to downplay the West during the "Boyz In The Hood" session) can bring you up to the idea of why that album was the boiling point. Plus disses from Tim Dog, Capone and Noreaga and Common (I Use To Love H.E.R was taken as a diss on West Coast ? the rap game up) didn't help..

    "Use to love her, mad 'cause we ? her/? whipped ? with no common sense".

    Cube got love from the Bomb Squad on "AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted" but even after that the rest of his albums sonically was strictly West purposely..as far as Pac's comments, we just say that ? was just ? off his hatred for Bad Boy and wanted all the glory.
  • Rampage12
    Rampage12 Members Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"

    "Do you listen to music or just skim through" I'm assume you fall into the latter category considering even though it's the same song it's still musically and topically different. Like for instance the original was about Trent Reznor's addiction to Heroin.
  • SheerExcellence
    SheerExcellence Members Posts: 6,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2015
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"

    "Do you listen to music or just skim through" I'm assume you fall into the latter category considering even though it's the same song it's still musically and topically different. Like for instance the original was about Trent Reznor's addiction to Heroin.

    I have to agree with @Rampage12 generally id agree a song is the same, if its the same tune and melody and overall feel. if one person is basically covering the original then it's the same "song" but if you were expecting to hear this
    https://youtu.be/g0bZtf5MCzY

    But instead a guy performed this...
    https://youtu.be/4ahHWROn8M0

    I don't think you can say welp that's the same song. For instance if a song had sampled a traditional orchestra performance of star spangled banner I wouldn't be like yooo they sampled this....And then play you jimi hendrixs version.jimi added too much too it. Just like cash did with this nin song.

    Just my opinion.

    Anyway to play the cash version as inspiration for Westside connection is disingenuous when they clearly never heard that version which is very different.
  • smp4life
    smp4life Members Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    D0wn wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    http://youtu.be/-15VM19oN50

    Because he was biting Pac

    No Vaseline >>> Hit em Up.

    He told on himself, yet again "i cant let him come back...that would make me obsolete" jealous ? rhetoric. That tutu wearing ? ? stay acting jealous of others who were successful.

    When Cube was making gangsta rap records 2Pac was trying to be some weird mixture of Cube and Chuck D.

    Hilarious. Also how 2Pac gon diss N.Y. and be from N.Y.? Cornball ass ? .

    what are u talking about Homillz.?.
    when Pac was dropping Cube N Chuck D style records. Cubes was doing the same thang in 91...
    and Cubes been was exposed to the East Vs West ? , and he was mute about it..
    DJ quik was riding on Tim Dogg in 91', when Tim Dogg dissed Cali, where was Cubes then?
    Pac ain't from NY ,he's from Oakland... it ain't about where u was born. If anything, Pac was more Baltimore than Ny.

    Tim Dogg gave Cube props in those NWA disses.
  • smp4life
    smp4life Members Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jono wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    Two classics in one post. Quoted and GOATED.

    I
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"

    You don't know what a sample is? It's a chunk of an actual recording.
  • smp4life
    smp4life Members Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    http://youtu.be/-15VM19oN50

    Because he was biting Pac

    Just cause pac said something don't make it true

    I'm a big Cube fan but Cube is a known biter/jump on what's hot kind of artist. Having said that, Pac was being very hypocritical cuz his early albums were definitely Cube-influenced.
  • smp4life
    smp4life Members Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Regarding Bowdown, a solid record, I think Cube did some of the production. not a classic tho.
  • J.J._Evans
    J.J._Evans Members Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"

    "Do you listen to music or just skim through" I'm assume you fall into the latter category considering even though it's the same song it's still musically and topically different. Like for instance the original was about Trent Reznor's addiction to Heroin.

    I have to agree with @Rampage12 generally id agree a song is the same, if its the same tune and melody and overall feel. if one person is basically covering the original then it's the same "song" but if you were expecting to hear this
    https://youtu.be/g0bZtf5MCzY

    But instead a guy performed this...
    https://youtu.be/4ahHWROn8M0

    I don't think you can say welp that's the same song. For instance if a song had sampled a traditional orchestra performance of star spangled banner I wouldn't be like yooo they sampled this....And then play you jimi hendrixs version.jimi added too much too it. Just like cash did with this nin song.

    Just my opinion.

    Anyway to play the cash version as inspiration for Westside connection is disingenuous when they clearly never heard that version which is very different.

    You're absolutely right..........but I like Johnny Cash version better......LOL
  • Rampage12
    Rampage12 Members Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"

    "Do you listen to music or just skim through" I'm assume you fall into the latter category considering even though it's the same song it's still musically and topically different. Like for instance the original was about Trent Reznor's addiction to Heroin.

    I have to agree with @Rampage12 generally id agree a song is the same, if its the same tune and melody and overall feel. if one person is basically covering the original then it's the same "song" but if you were expecting to hear this
    https://youtu.be/g0bZtf5MCzY

    But instead a guy performed this...
    https://youtu.be/4ahHWROn8M0

    I don't think you can say welp that's the same song. For instance if a song had sampled a traditional orchestra performance of star spangled banner I wouldn't be like yooo they sampled this....And then play you jimi hendrixs version.jimi added too much too it. Just like cash did with this nin song.

    Just my opinion.

    Anyway to play the cash version as inspiration for Westside connection is disingenuous when they clearly never heard that version which is very different.

    You're absolutely right..........but I like Johnny Cash version better......LOL

    Little known fact - NIN refuses to play "Hurt" anymore live because Trent Reznor basically admitted Johnny Cash murdered their them on their own ? . When asked about he basically said "That's not my song anymore, it's Johnny's song"
  • SheerExcellence
    SheerExcellence Members Posts: 6,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"

    "Do you listen to music or just skim through" I'm assume you fall into the latter category considering even though it's the same song it's still musically and topically different. Like for instance the original was about Trent Reznor's addiction to Heroin.

    I have to agree with @Rampage12 generally id agree a song is the same, if its the same tune and melody and overall feel. if one person is basically covering the original then it's the same "song" but if you were expecting to hear this
    https://youtu.be/g0bZtf5MCzY

    But instead a guy performed this...
    https://youtu.be/4ahHWROn8M0

    I don't think you can say welp that's the same song. For instance if a song had sampled a traditional orchestra performance of star spangled banner I wouldn't be like yooo they sampled this....And then play you jimi hendrixs version.jimi added too much too it. Just like cash did with this nin song.

    Just my opinion.

    Anyway to play the cash version as inspiration for Westside connection is disingenuous when they clearly never heard that version which is very different.

    You're absolutely right..........but I like Johnny Cash version better......LOL

    Little known fact - NIN refuses to play "Hurt" anymore live because Trent Reznor basically admitted Johnny Cash murdered their them on their own ? . When asked about he basically said "That's not my song anymore, it's Johnny's song"

    I wonder when he said this because I saw him perform it since cash's death
  • Rampage12
    Rampage12 Members Posts: 3,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Rampage12 wrote: »
    J.J._Evans wrote: »
    Best song that the Westside Connection ever made...........

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PM5YWZnhIs



    Little known fact.....They sampled from this song...........


    No they didn't considering Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt" came out in 2002 which was a cover of the Nine Inch Nails song which came out in 1994. So technically they sampled the Nine Inch Nails version

    I knew that Nine Inch Nails made the song first, but I like Johnny Cash's version.

    Either way........It's the same damn song, which is what I originally said in my post.

    "Little known fact.....They sampled from this song"

    "Do you listen to music or just skim through" I'm assume you fall into the latter category considering even though it's the same song it's still musically and topically different. Like for instance the original was about Trent Reznor's addiction to Heroin.

    I have to agree with @Rampage12 generally id agree a song is the same, if its the same tune and melody and overall feel. if one person is basically covering the original then it's the same "song" but if you were expecting to hear this
    https://youtu.be/g0bZtf5MCzY

    But instead a guy performed this...
    https://youtu.be/4ahHWROn8M0

    I don't think you can say welp that's the same song. For instance if a song had sampled a traditional orchestra performance of star spangled banner I wouldn't be like yooo they sampled this....And then play you jimi hendrixs version.jimi added too much too it. Just like cash did with this nin song.

    Just my opinion.

    Anyway to play the cash version as inspiration for Westside connection is disingenuous when they clearly never heard that version which is very different.

    You're absolutely right..........but I like Johnny Cash version better......LOL

    Little known fact - NIN refuses to play "Hurt" anymore live because Trent Reznor basically admitted Johnny Cash murdered their them on their own ? . When asked about he basically said "That's not my song anymore, it's Johnny's song"

    I wonder when he said this because I saw him perform it since cash's death

    It was probably around 6 or 7 years ago. Who knows people always have a change of heart, especially rock stars. I'd still perform it if I was Trent because even though I think Johnny's version is superior it's still his song.