Trans-Pacific Trade Pact

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Idiopathic Joker
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edited October 2015 in The Social Lounge
After years of talks, negotiators for the United States and 11 other nations are trying to hash out final terms of a controversial free-trade agreement that could have a sweeping effect on the global economy.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP, would knock down tariffs and import quotas, making it cheaper to import and export, and open new Asia-Pacific markets to American companies.

The latest round of talks, which began in Atlanta on Wednesday, were continuing on Sunday.

The TPP is a central focus of President Obama's trade agenda and something he has pushed for since the start of his presidency. Any agreement among the 12 countries will have to be OK'd by Congress.

The countries taking part -- Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the U.S. and Vietnam -- together make up 40% of the world's economy.

The U.S. and Japan -- the first and third largest economies in the world -- have anchored the talks.

China, the No. 2 economy, is not part of the TPP. Proponents hope an agreement could neutralize some of China's power in global trade.

Trade deals are always political and business lightning rods because they create winners and losers. The North American Free Trade Agreement, put in place in 1994, still sparks fierce debate.

The TPP is no different.

One contentious issue has been how long pharmaceutical companies should be allowed to control information about the medicine they develop. The U.S. is pushing for longer terms, but other countries like Australia want shorter ones.

Drug companies say longer periods of exclusivity over research encourages investment in developing cures. But longer terms can also keep cheaper versions off the market. The potential for compromise over this issue is reportedly a final key to a deal.

Among the TPP's leading backers are the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the powerful business lobby not often on the same side of big issues as Obama.

Obama says the TPP would make American companies more competitive, create jobs in the U.S. and add billions to the global economy.

Nike has said it would create 10,000 U.S. jobs if an agreement is finalized.

Earlier this year, Obama pushed a bill through Congress that gives him "fast track" authority, also known as trade promotion authority. The fast track process is designed to make it easier for a president to get congressional approval of trade pacts and was seen as a big opening on future passage of the TPP.

However, the TPP has met with harsh criticism -- from both sides of the political aisle.

Democrats and labor unions, led by the AFL-CIO, say it could hurt American workers because businesses will have increased opportunities overseas.

Critics have also wanted details about the negotiations, which have been done in private, to be made public. Wikileaks has published draft documents that were otherwise top secret.

The TPP has also been a headline issue in the 2016 presidential campaign.

Republican candidate Donald Trump blasted it in a tweet in April: "The Trans-Pacific Partnership is an attack on America's business. It does not stop Japan's currency manipulation. This is a bad deal."

But so has Democratic senator and 2016 hopeful Bernie Sanders, who has called the TPP "bad news" and has fought it hard in the Senate.

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  • Ajackson17
    Ajackson17 Members Posts: 22,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No jobs will be created America's elite will be richer and we will be poorer.
  • yahwehprofet
    yahwehprofet Members Posts: 976 ✭✭✭✭
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    "Know they ain't fully prepared for this New World Order
    So I keep it ghetto like sunflower seeds and quarter waters"
  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker Members, Moderators Posts: 45,691 Regulator
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    Sounds like some boss ?
  • Bully_Pulpit
    Bully_Pulpit Members Posts: 5,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ajackson17 wrote: »
    No jobs will be created America's elite will be richer and we will be poorer.

    Yeah that about sums it up.
  • Idiopathic Joker
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    @Sion any opinion on this matter?
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think long term this will be good for america it will keep the nation competitive
  • reapin505
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    Sion wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    @Sion any opinion on this matter?

    It will happen and ideally you want it to so that the U.S. can grow. Most of the country's growth is going to have to come from overseas, most major American corporations have well over 50% of their revenue coming from overseas anyways from Europe and Asia. The Americans always think ahead and they know for them to grow they need to foster good relations with those countries so they can create opportunities not just for big business but for small businesses too. This has always been a goal since even before the global recession, McDonald's and Coca-Cola were the first to show the importance of it, now everyone is hip to it.


    It can impact certain types of jobs in America but it's not going to takeover all the jobs in the country nor will everybody be "unemployed". That's another thread for another day. However, many of you should be conscious that sooner or later there will be a large emphasis on prospective employees to be multi-lingual. There's going to come a day when Mandarin will be taught in schools along with Spanish and French.

    Always wanted to learn Chinese and there isn't enough Asians ? here anyways.

    Better not get charged shipping for gundams and ? now ? , its expensive.
  • MarcusGarvey
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    Careful of those who espouse the imports are bad doctrine. Hopefully consumers will see some gains from the pact not only export driven companies that will have access to new markets or current ones at lower tariffs.
  • HundredEyes
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    And...Indonesia loses again lol smh. Malaysia n Singapore are in...
  • CP203
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    Sion wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    @Sion any opinion on this matter?

    It will happen and ideally you want it to so that the U.S. can grow. Most of the country's growth is going to have to come from overseas, most major American corporations have well over 50% of their revenue coming from overseas anyways from Europe and Asia. The Americans always think ahead and they know for them to grow they need to foster good relations with those countries so they can create opportunities not just for big business but for small businesses too. This has always been a goal since even before the global recession, McDonald's and Coca-Cola were the first to show the importance of it, now everyone is hip to it.


    It can impact certain types of jobs in America but it's not going to takeover all the jobs in the country nor will everybody be "unemployed". That's another thread for another day. However, many of you should be conscious that sooner or later there will be a large emphasis on prospective employees to be multi-lingual. There's going to come a day when Mandarin will be taught in schools along with Spanish and French.

    Yes sir glad I can hold basic convos in seven languages
  • Focal Point
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    Hmm, guess I better touch up on my French and get my Sis and Aunt to help with the Mandarin
  • Black Boy King
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  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Really haven't had the time to look into this but can some tell me how this will effect taxes,shipping, and customs charges
  • LordZuko
    LordZuko Members Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    We won't be able to realistically understand the outcome of this for at least ten years.

    I base this on nafta, which was signed in 94 but the ax didn't drop til 2004 When you saw a lot of manufacturing move overseas.

    Black people need to be concerned with how this agreement will be used to exploit us.
  • john581
    john581 Members Posts: 75
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    New World Order coming